[Naloac] - SoapDispenser - Banned for killing the Bartender
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:32 pm
BYOND account: <SoapDIspenser>
Character name: <Unsure, I play with a random generated name each round. EDIT: I found the name in logs. Jee-Raj>
Ban type: <Serverban>
Ban length: <1 day ban>
Ban reason: <The ban reason is: Went into the bar, broke glasses and went behind the bar. When thrown out by the bartender and it being clear he wasnt welcome in his workplace. Snuck into the back room and murdered the bartender then hid his body in maint. Please re read our rules including Rule 1 precedent 6 >
Time ban was placed: <2019-10-20-13:09:23 (server time).>
Server you were playing on when banned: <Terryl>
Round ID in which ban was placed: <121765. I think the correct round is the round prior to this ID, as Naloac and I were discussing the situation into a second round, where I recieved the ban. EDIT: I found the round that the events transpired in. 121763>
Your side of the story: <After a round of being griefed by the HoS (Talia Robinson in-game) I saw the bartender assist the HoS in beating another crewmember in the bar. I tried to shove the HoS, but was then forcegrabbed by the bartender, and thrown over the counter. When the dust had settled, I then asked the bartender why he chose to assist the HoS, who was being a general pain to most crewmember. He then states that they were friends or mates, I can't remember the exact wording. Upon hearing that, I threw one of the empty bar glasses, as a sign of in-character resentment. This glass hit the counter of the bar, in the least harmful way anything possibly could. I did not foresee that this would cause the bartender to proceed with unloading his shotgun in my face, and chase me out of the bar. This all happened without any communication from the bartender, because of a single broken glass.
Now we fast forward a bit. My character is hungry and I try to enter the kitchen. The bartender easily spots me, as I'm wearing the Knight Templar outfit as the chaplain. He runs out of the bar, across the room and starts firing his shotgun at me, again without communication. Panicked, I managed to escape, and thinking that the bartender is out to kill me on-sight I decide to beat him to it. I go through the backroom, since I have acquired all-access, and I stun him using a baton, which the warden gave me, and kill him with my nullrod. I then drag him to maintenance and hide the body.>
Why you think you should be unbanned: < Now I realize that the Naloac quotes Rule 1, precedent 6, as the justification to give me a one day ban, however I do not feel that this is just. According to the rules of escalation, I have the right to respond to violence with violence, especially when someone is firing a shotgun at me. I realize that the bartender usually makes use of beanbag slugs, however, I was not able to deduct what he would do AFTER stunning me, as he did not try to communicate that I was not to return to the bar (Which I didn't, I was trying to grab food from the kitchen). I ICly then feared he was going to kill me if he ever had the chance.
It is also true that I could have approached security to talk the bartender down, but this didn't seem like a plausible course of action at the time because the HoS was randomly shoving and grabbing me, and the previously mentioned 'friendship' would most likely have prompted the HoS to lynch me now she had the excuse. This is also why I dragged the body to maintenance, since the HoS was itching for excuses to kill people that round. He had killed the mime, who I carried around as a purified shade, for breaking windows.
In short, I feel that my actions were reasonable, since I feared being killed by an overzealous maniac chasing me with a shotgun, without any communication. All because of a single broken glass.
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References of good conduct: <I have nothing to add here besides my playtime on Terry, where you will see I have a few warnings and a single ban. Those warnings and bans are fair, since i realize they were against the spirit of the server rules.>
Character name: <Unsure, I play with a random generated name each round. EDIT: I found the name in logs. Jee-Raj>
Ban type: <Serverban>
Ban length: <1 day ban>
Ban reason: <The ban reason is: Went into the bar, broke glasses and went behind the bar. When thrown out by the bartender and it being clear he wasnt welcome in his workplace. Snuck into the back room and murdered the bartender then hid his body in maint. Please re read our rules including Rule 1 precedent 6 >
Time ban was placed: <2019-10-20-13:09:23 (server time).>
Server you were playing on when banned: <Terryl>
Round ID in which ban was placed: <121765. I think the correct round is the round prior to this ID, as Naloac and I were discussing the situation into a second round, where I recieved the ban. EDIT: I found the round that the events transpired in. 121763>
Your side of the story: <After a round of being griefed by the HoS (Talia Robinson in-game) I saw the bartender assist the HoS in beating another crewmember in the bar. I tried to shove the HoS, but was then forcegrabbed by the bartender, and thrown over the counter. When the dust had settled, I then asked the bartender why he chose to assist the HoS, who was being a general pain to most crewmember. He then states that they were friends or mates, I can't remember the exact wording. Upon hearing that, I threw one of the empty bar glasses, as a sign of in-character resentment. This glass hit the counter of the bar, in the least harmful way anything possibly could. I did not foresee that this would cause the bartender to proceed with unloading his shotgun in my face, and chase me out of the bar. This all happened without any communication from the bartender, because of a single broken glass.
Now we fast forward a bit. My character is hungry and I try to enter the kitchen. The bartender easily spots me, as I'm wearing the Knight Templar outfit as the chaplain. He runs out of the bar, across the room and starts firing his shotgun at me, again without communication. Panicked, I managed to escape, and thinking that the bartender is out to kill me on-sight I decide to beat him to it. I go through the backroom, since I have acquired all-access, and I stun him using a baton, which the warden gave me, and kill him with my nullrod. I then drag him to maintenance and hide the body.>
Why you think you should be unbanned: < Now I realize that the Naloac quotes Rule 1, precedent 6, as the justification to give me a one day ban, however I do not feel that this is just. According to the rules of escalation, I have the right to respond to violence with violence, especially when someone is firing a shotgun at me. I realize that the bartender usually makes use of beanbag slugs, however, I was not able to deduct what he would do AFTER stunning me, as he did not try to communicate that I was not to return to the bar (Which I didn't, I was trying to grab food from the kitchen). I ICly then feared he was going to kill me if he ever had the chance.
It is also true that I could have approached security to talk the bartender down, but this didn't seem like a plausible course of action at the time because the HoS was randomly shoving and grabbing me, and the previously mentioned 'friendship' would most likely have prompted the HoS to lynch me now she had the excuse. This is also why I dragged the body to maintenance, since the HoS was itching for excuses to kill people that round. He had killed the mime, who I carried around as a purified shade, for breaking windows.
In short, I feel that my actions were reasonable, since I feared being killed by an overzealous maniac chasing me with a shotgun, without any communication. All because of a single broken glass.
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References of good conduct: <I have nothing to add here besides my playtime on Terry, where you will see I have a few warnings and a single ban. Those warnings and bans are fair, since i realize they were against the spirit of the server rules.>