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[Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:52 am
by Schutze88
BYOND account: http://www.byond.com/members/Schutze88
Character name: Konrad Schuetzmann
Ban type: Server (ckey?)
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Image
Time ban was placed: 2019-12-24/01:30:11
Server you were playing on when banned: Event hall i guess?
Round ID in which ban was placed: 126473
Your side of the story: Got jailed in brig for attempted break and entry, then got some additional minutes on my term for "spreading syndicate propaganda", which i didn't. Asked in adminhelp about whether it would be legit to kill sec officer for this crap or not. Got banned in response, lol.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I might be blind, but i cant find any rule that forbids certain types of ckeys. So if there is no rule which i could have broken, why i got banned in a first place? And if this ckey breaks any rules, why NONE of the admins i interacted with had any questions about it? This ban is so bizarre and out of the blue, that i thought at first that this was some kind of a joke.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:54 am
by capn_monkeypaw
Schutze88 wrote:BYOND account: http://www.byond.com/members/Schutze88
Character name: Konrad Schuetzmann
Ban type: Server (ckey?)
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Image
Time ban was placed: 2019-12-24/01:30:11
Server you were playing on when banned: Event hall i guess?
Round ID in which ban was placed: 126473
Your side of the story: Got jailed in brig for attempted break and entry, then got some additional minutes on my term for "spreading syndicate propaganda", which i didn't. Asked in adminhelp about whether it would be legit to kill sec officer for this crap or not. Got banned in response, lol.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I might be blind, but i cant find any rule that forbids certain types of ckeys. So if there is no rule which i could have broken, why i got banned in a first place? And if this ckey breaks any rules, why NONE of the admins i interacted with had any questions about it? This ban is so bizarre and out of the blue, that i thought at first that this was some kind of a joke.


Are you trying to say you did nazi this ban coming?

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:58 am
by Schutze88
capn_monkeypaw wrote: Are you trying to say you did nazi this ban coming?


Do you mind clarifying what you are trying to say? I cant quite understand right now.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:48 am
by Super Aggro Crag
Schutze88 wrote:
capn_monkeypaw wrote: Are you trying to say you did nazi this ban coming?


Do you mind clarifying what you are trying to say? I cant quite understand right now.

schutze is a german word for "shooter" and 8 is used by neonazis to represent "h", the 8th letter of the alphabet, so the "hh" is short for "heil hitler" to them

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:21 am
by capn_monkeypaw
Schutze88 wrote:
capn_monkeypaw wrote: Are you trying to say you did nazi this ban coming?


Do you mind clarifying what you are trying to say? I cant quite understand right now.


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Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:22 am
by capn_monkeypaw
Feel free to continue to use one of your four other alts, though you can consider this official notice that you need to pick one and stick with it. Please reply with the ckey you would like to keep so I can perma the other three.

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Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:22 am
by capn_monkeypaw
Anything else you need clarified?

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:58 am
by Schutze88
Feel free to continue to use one of your four other alts, though you can consider this official notice that you need to pick one and stick with it. Please reply with the ckey you would like to keep so I can perma the other three.


I don't use adeca or dalekemperor anymore. Schutze is my main account.

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So? I can use whatever ckey i want. Not only I dont have any obligations to use only ckeys that wouldnt especially trigger you for some reason, my ckey doesn't have any offensive content. Even your own screenshoot says that rank of the rifleman was even in imperial army. Also, you are the first and the only admin which had any problems with it, and considering that im playing on /tg/station for two years already, it perhaps indicates that something is wrong with you, not with my ckey.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:01 am
by Schutze88
capn_monkeypaw wrote:Anything else you need clarified?


Should we collectively ban bundeswehr from /tg/station?

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Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:16 am
by capn_monkeypaw
This appeal is denied.

Which of your other ckeys would you like to use from here on out?

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:31 am
by Schutze88
capn_monkeypaw wrote:This appeal is denied.

Which of your other ckeys would you like to use from here on out?


I would prefer to use DeathToIsrael1488 as my main account from now on.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:44 am
by deedubya
PostThis post was deleted by MortoSasye on Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:12 pm.
Reason: Peanut post, you're only quoting your opinion.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:46 am
by Vekter
We don't allow characters named after Nazi figures.

Edit: Edited to remove the peanut part out.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:24 pm
by capn_monkeypaw
Schutze88 wrote:
capn_monkeypaw wrote:This appeal is denied.

Which of your other ckeys would you like to use from here on out?


I would prefer to use DeathToIsrael1488 as my main account from now on.


So now that your new "DeathToIsrael1488" and "gasthej3ws" ckeys have also been banned, what ckey would you like to use moving forward?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:27 pm
by Critawakets
PostThis post was deleted by MortoSasye on Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:13 pm.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:48 pm
by Xlyana
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:31 pm
by capn_monkeypaw
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:19 pm
by kopoba
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by capn_monkeypaw
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Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:58 pm
by deedubya
To reiterate a point that got lost in the shuffle: There is currently no rule regarding what you may or may not have as your ckey when connecting to the server. Nor are there any rules policing what language may be used on the server. Precedent shows that anyone is free to use anything crass or in poor taste so long as it is not directly harassing another member of the community or in violation of another rule; such as in-character naming policy.

edit: The above point is in reference to the usage of general speech, which does have precedent in multiple statements and rulings by past headmins. If there is a separate precedent for ckey naming convention, it hasn't been made public knowledge as of this post.

Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:16 pm
by MortoSasye
deedubya wrote:To reiterate a point that got lost in the shuffle: There is currently no rule regarding what you may or may not have as your ckey when connecting to the server. Nor are there any rules policing what language may be used on the server. Precedent shows that anyone is free to use anything crass or in poor taste so long as it is not directly harassing another member of the community or in violation of another rule; such as in-character naming policy.


Please stop spreading lies. Admins have banned ckeys in poor taste before, saying there is no precedent at all is extremely ignorant.

I'm going to leave your post this time, but you should really investigate well before posting in an appeal.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:31 pm
by deedubya
PostThis post was deleted by Arianya on Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:07 am.
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Re: [Phuzzylodgik] Schutze88 - Imagine being unironically banned for a ckey

PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:22 am
by Hulkamania
You still haven't responded to the previous inquiry about an acceptable name, but I'm going to step in and re-iterate that this is a perfectly valid thing for the administrator to do. There is no reason an admin can't step in if a ckey is intentionally inflammatory or derogatory, and they're only really asking you to stick to one that isn't.

You as an individual don't really seem to agree with that which is fine, however the administrator has asked you to pick a viable ckey that is not racially charged and you should do so. If you really need a "ThAtS nOt In ThE rUlEs" reason, look no further than both rules 0 and 1.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:47 am
by Doctor Ape
PostThis post was deleted by MortoSasye on Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:55 am.
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by capn_monkeypaw
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by Doctor Ape
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by capn_monkeypaw
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by Doctor Ape
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by capn_monkeypaw
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by capn_monkeypaw
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