Character name: Irrelevant
Ban type: Forums
Ban length: Perma
Ban reason: Long history of rule 6 violations - Despite innumerable warnings and bans for this rule and others, your behavior has not improved. Most recently, created digg thread for forums drama.
Time ban was placed: Apr 27, 2019 11:28 am
Server you were playing on when banned: Irrelevant.
Round ID in which ban was placed: Irrelevant.
Your side of the story:
Just to head this off at the pass, no, Nervere, I will not be communicating with you in private. If you make any attempt to contact me in private, any messages or audio conversations you send me will be posted here immediately with no other response. Yes, I am legally allowed to record whatever you try to tell me as per my state's laws on single-party consent for recording electronic conversation. Be smart.
I posted a link to a ban appeal on digg that I felt was handled poorly by the involved headmin. It gained little traction.
Nervere, the admin who banned me, proceeded to post the thread himself. See this thread.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190504032 ... 55&t=22482
I archived it on archive.org since I know that the NTR hut deletes threads after like, a week of inactivity.
I made some dumb posts here that I regret, and after taking some time off after this ban I proceeded to become a leftist, stop being a colossal douchebag, and move on with my life.
I've done a lot of shitty things. I expect people to pull out said shitty things to get me with a gotcha and use it as evidence that I shouldn't be unbanned. I will instead apologize for those things as they come up and are posted, as I feel guilt for my actions in the past. They hurt people, either intentionally or unintentionally and I feel awful that I did that.
The Ban itself.
I'm here today to explain why this ban is not only illegitimate, but why Nervere didn't place this ban with honest intentions.
I am NOT justifying my posts in that thread. They were awful posts and I had a shitty outlook on life at the time. I apologize for those. However, the ban is still illegitimate, because the bans were not about these posts. The ban was because Nervere saw an opportunity to get a spotlight once again for banning me.
The first thing to note about this thread is that Nervere was the one who posted it. They, in a sense, set up the scene. They knew I would come to defend my digg post.
The second thing to note is that the digg thread itself lapsed into death well before Nervere found it and reposted it on the forums. For someone claiming to hate digg so much, he must of really been digging around on digg to find that post. But, that's just a theory. A forums theory.
The third thing to note is that this was posted in the NTR hut. A subforum which rapidly deletes threads when people stop posting in them. Almost like Nervere wanted the evidence of all of this to automatically cover itself up. Unfortunately for him, I have more than two brain cells and archived it for when I could appeal the forum ban.
Finally, let us get to the meat of the ban. Admins shifted the goal posts when I protested this obvious bullshit of a ban, and told me it was for my general "drama causing" history. I would like to note, as of this post, Nervere himself is actively claiming that it is "not okay" to be banned "because people attack him[Shezza] with drama".
Nervere took my digg post onto the forums, and actively tried to make it a drama thing. He even put "drama" in the title. He took a failed digg post and tried to boost it's visibility while claiming I was the one responsible for making a big thing out of it. My only actions were to post on digg and shoot MSO a DM about checking the logs on the original ban incident. We did, and it turns out the situation was an edge case that wasn't actually logged, so there was no way for an admin to really make an accurate ruling on the issue, but since the user kept fucking up the appeals process they got shitcanned anyways. I no longer think wubli should of resigned.
Arguments for the ban from the administration at the time, and debunks of these arguments.
Now, one could argue that "drama" is a bannable offence. Except that I was doing something that MSO explicitly laid out was perfectly okay, and in fact, should be expected!
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 91#p422891
To quote MSO:
This is literally normal behavior for being in a community. When something you don't like happens, you complain about it, and safety in numbers allows you to present your complaint without getting fucked over by the people you're complaining about. In my case, my complaint was dumb, and so people didn't agree with it and it got below zero karma and dismissed by digg's algorithm.At the end of the day when we fuck up players should be mad and they will naturally want to talk with each other about how mad they are and want to voice and express how bad we fucked up to our faces while encouraging other players to do the same because there is safety in numbers and there is no practical distinction from this and rabble rousing.
Now, you could say because I posted on digg, this nullifies that. I disagree. After all, a large chunk of our userbase actively posts on digg. Everyone knows this. After all, at least some /tg/station players saw it. How else would Nervere have seen it? Unless, perhaps, he was stalking my posts or something.
I mean, that'd be a weird thing to do and I doubt it, so I assume that he was just reading digg normally like normal people do. Although, the post was at zero karma, so it shouldn't of shown up on the front page, or the second page, or really most the pages. That'd mean Nervere reads digg enough to have seen it when it was posted originally.
Seems odd for someone claiming to hate digg so much that they banned "multiple people" based on them posting on digg.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191225111 ... 50#p527985
I suspect these people were sacrificed to make his ban on me more legitimate looking.
But, unfortunately for Nervere, you can paint a facade all you want, but the second someone looks at it from the side, the illusion falls apart. I hope these people come forward so we can get them unbanned too.
Now, this raises an even more interesting. Why did he wait to post the thread until well after it had tanked to below zero karma and was therefore invisible as per the algorithm?
I'll stop pussyfooting around and get to the obvious conclusion of all of this. Nervere used this thread after seeing it during his regular digg reading as an excuse to ban me, and get the spotlight back on themselves for having taken out a high profile player who he knew would cause a stink about his ban.
I didn't contest the ban at the time as he had allies in the administration who backed his plays. Since he's been ousted and demoted to purely being a forums warrior who fails the first rule of ban appeals, apologize for your shitty actions instead of tripling down, it's clear he no longer holds the power he once did, so I feel safe posting this appeal finally.
Nervere the Narcissist
Now, with my ban thoroughly debunked, we must go to why Nervere is an untrustworthy individual aside from the obvious evidence of his abysmal conduct and shoddy reasoning in regards to this ban.
Nervere is a crook and a charlatan. They are a narcissistic manchild obsessed with being omnipresent in the community. They strive to keep the attention and the spotlight on them at all times. They've demonstrated this in their ban appeal. In fact, let's take a look at this ban appeal.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 35#p525434
The very first thing we see, upon entering this ban appeal, is Nervere insisting he was innocent and committed no wrongdoing. He then tells us about how he intended to break the rule against handling bans in private, and namedropped the admin that he claimed was responsible for properly abiding by the rules and regulations on appeals.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 35#p525599
An administrator, when going to retrieve case relevant logs, expressed their shock at Nervere deleting literally everything between the two's correspondence. Nervere immediately replies that he wanted to delete personal information, but if he really wanted to do that, surely he would leave all the case relevant information behind and just delete the compromising messages, yes?
He then proceeds to commit the most obvious case of ban evasion I've ever seen since we had that one guy join, get banned, them immediately evade on an account that was the same name as his last one but with the number incremented by one.
Upon being asked why he does this, he immediately asks the administrator to enter a private voice call with him to "verify his identity". For obvious safety reasons, and the fact this once again falls under the rule against resolving bans privately, something that we enforce to avoid obvious corruption issues, the administrator refuses.
He then proceeds to double and triple down as more and more evidence is posted that no, those byond accounts aren't actually used on /tg/station and are obvious alts. Then someone chimes in with evidence of him using that Bobah account before he made his Nervere account.
Plapatin proceeds to them tell him to fuck off forever.
This entire appeal shows that Nervere legitimately thinks they have done nothing wrong, and they spent the entire appeal period instead of self-reflecting, choosing to try to drag administrators into personal conversations.
They then proceed to peanut post in their ban appeal peanut thread in the NTR hut, keeping it bumped, active, and not deleting. He wants the spotlight to stay on his ban appeal, and by proxy, him. They used Shezza's appeal to do the exact same thing. Additionally, we must talk about Shezza.
Nervere and Shezza
They continue to attach to this community like a cancerous leech alongside the toxic entity that is Shezza, otherwise known as Wilchen in this community. They've gone by both names here.
Nervere shoved piles of evidence I sent him and the rest of the administration team, including MSO, under the carpet.
The evidence showed Shezza harassing multiple members of the community
The evidence showed Shezza blackmailing children into recording clips of them saying stuff and putting it on soundcloud.
The evidence showed Shezza taking to DMs and telling community members to kill themselves in private, insisting that "nobody loves them" and that no one would miss them if they were gone.
The evidence showed Shezza plotting metagaming on servers.
The evidence showed Shezza bragging about having stalked and found the personal twitter of an administrator without consent.
The evidence showed a few administrators having full knowledge of these events, such as Beesting12, as they were present in the discord where this was being organized and conducted, along with actively commenting on and laughing at the antics of Shezza. Those administrators never reported it themselves.
Nervere didn't act on any of this evidence. In fact, afterwards, he tried to use an administrator position that he himself had set Shezza up with as an excuse to UNBAN him.
I have no idea why Nervere shackles himself to the sociopath that is Shezza. It makes zero sense. Perhaps their shared hatred of morality allows them to bond as friends. Why Shezza hasn't thrown Nervere under the bus for quick laughs, and why Nervere allows Shezza to steal the spotlight from him, I will never know. But it is the only confusing element to all of this. They actively shoot eachother in the foot in their support of eachother. It's both the funniest thing and the saddest thing about all of this.
This evidence will not be posted in this thread unless by the victims themselves or the NEW head administrators I have sent the evidence to. It contains information that could identify the victims and I don't want them harassed by Nervere and Shezza for this.
When I sent this evidence to Nervere's headmin administration, nothing happened. Shezza was not blacklisted.
I sent this to our current headmins and they wondered why the blacklist hadn't already happened and why they hadn't been informed of this at all despite multiple admins and ex-headmins knowing of it.
TL;DR
Nervere made a shitty dumb ban so he could get attention, quadrupled down on it, then proceeded to powertrip and ban a bunch of other people for being digg posters.
Basically, you know Scarface? He watched that, got to the bit with the Tony Montana Success Montage, but then stopped watching before the finale of the movie where Tony's hubris was his downfall. Now he just sits around on the forums angry posting about how we don't let his obvious bullshit ban evasions fly and acts offended that we see through his pathetic charades to get his friend Shezza unbanned. He let his perceived power get ahead of him, and he fell out of graces with the community and the rest of the administration team.
I suspect they will lock ranks once more to contest this, but Nervere's shaming and removal from the team is already a matter of public record. I hold no ill will against the administration of right now. I only have a beef with Nervere for being a horrible, horrible individual who throws logic, justice, and reasoning under the bus to advance his own narcissistic goals.
To those of you who were also banned by Nervere for bullshit reasons, come forward and appeal. You have my support.
