<Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

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<Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

Postby Jake » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:25 pm #553169

BYOND Account: EnterTheJake
Character Name: Jake i think, although not 100% sure
Bantype: Permaban
BanLenght: Permanent
BanReason: Playing as a nonantag doctor, heavily morphined and anesthetized a patient and stuffed them in a medical locker because"Been an ass with me before, punched me and called me names, so i'm letting his head cool down so letting his head cool down in the locker for a bit" but when told not do so, player disconnected, Thanks but no Thanks.
Time Ban Was placed: 2019-09-12 00:12:48
Server you were playing on when banned: i don't remember been months ago sorry
RoundID:118386
my side of the story: the guy i tranqd and stuffed inside the locker, was being super rude to me and the rest of the staff in medical, when i told him to leave he started beating me with a crowbar, then out of self defence i shot him with my syringe gun and stuffed him inside the locker, i wasn't warned not to do such a thing before i did it, i got an admin message right after he was put inside, and the admin himself said that the problem was solved because he woke the guy and returned him to normal, warning me to just call security next time, don't really know why he just banned me right after.
Why do i think i should be unbanned: i honestly don't think i did anything deserving a permaban, i knocked unconscious someone who assaulted me verbally and physically, i should have called security right after sure, but then again i was new both on the server and on the game, sorry, won't do it next time.
Last edited by Jake on Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.



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Re: <Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

Postby Armhulen » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:07 pm #553202

real ban reason :

Banned from the server permanently - Brand new player with 80 minutes on /tg/.
Playing as a non-antag doctor, heavily morphined and anesthetized a patient and stuffed them into a medical locker because "been an ass with me before, punched me and call me names so i'm letting his head cool down in the locker for a bit."
When told he could not do so, player disconnected.
Thanks but no thanks. Please review our rules at the link previously provided and appeal on our forums if you'd like to join us again.
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Re: <Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

Postby capn_monkeypaw » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:00 pm #553223

Thank you for taking the time to appeal.

Considering that it's been about six months since this ban was applied, I can understand why you might misremember certain events that occurred this round.

To help you recollect, let's quickly review your actions during the shift as well as our brief exchange of messages.

Having re-reviewed the logs, I can tell you this: without any sort of contact occurring between the two of you at any prior point in this round, you entered the bar and shot another player, Hasenpfeffer, twice with a syringe gun:

[2019-09-11 23:47:18.603] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has fired at Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe from Bar (NEWHP: 96.7) (Bar (128, 127, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:18.603] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the syringe to [syringe] (Bar (128, 127, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:18.879] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has shot Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe REAGENTS:Morphine (15) (NEWHP: 96.7) (Bar (128, 127, 2))

[2019-09-11 23:47:22.441] SAY: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) "that's rough" (Bar (132, 124, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:36.643] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the syringe to [syringe] (Bar (128, 127, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:36.644] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has fired at Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe from Bar (NEWHP: 90.7) (Bar (128, 127, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:36.949] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has shot Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe REAGENTS:Morphine (15) (NEWHP: 90.7) (Bar (128, 127, 2))

[2019-09-11 23:47:36.998] GAME: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) has become addicted to Morphine at 28.4 units.
[2019-09-11 23:47:41.398] SAY: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) "can I have 3 ice cream sandwiches" (Bar (132, 124, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:44.234] SAY: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) "mother fucker" (Bar (132, 124, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:47:50.880] SAY: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) "he got me" (Bar (130, 124, 2))


The two syringes in question each contained 15u of morphine.

You then grab him, shoot him with another syringe that overdoses him, and drag him back to Medbay storage:

[2019-09-11 23:49:13.031] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has grabbed Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Command Hallway (123, 126, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:49:22.897] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has attacked Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with syringe gun (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 97) (Command Hallway (118, 126, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:49:26.263] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has fired at Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe from Command Hallway (NEWHP: 97.8) (Command Hallway (119, 126, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:49:26.263] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the syringe to [syringe] (Command Hallway (119, 126, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:49:26.320] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has shot Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe REAGENTS:Morphine (15) (NEWHP: 97.8) (Command Hallway (119, 126, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:49:27.057] GAME: Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) has started overdosing on Morphine at 33 units.
[2019-09-11 23:49:32.688] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has grabbed Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) passive grab (NEWHP: 95.5) (Command Hallway (116, 126, 2))

Once there, you proceed to inject him with another 30u. Someone interrupts you asking for help (you're a doctor, after all) and you shoo them away. Once they're gone, you inject him with another 60u, making a total of 120 units of morphine:

[2019-09-11 23:50:37.887] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (30u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (86, 111, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:50:38.407] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (25u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (86, 111, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:50:38.874] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (20u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (86, 111, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:50:43.426] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has attempted to inject Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:50:46.515] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has injected Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:50:46.515] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the syringe to Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:51:04.738] SAY: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) "busy rn" (Medbay Storage (90, 109, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:51:07.628] SAY: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) "ask somebody else" (Medbay Storage (90, 109, 2))

[2019-09-11 23:51:37.530] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has attempted to inject Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (10u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:51:40.619] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has injected Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (10u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:51:40.620] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum /reagent/medicine/morphine (10u)) from the syringe to Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:09.606] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has thrown the toxin treatment kit (Medbay Storage (91, 109, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:13.639] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has attempted to inject Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (5u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (90, 109, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:16.647] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has injected Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (5u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (90, 109, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:16.648] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (5u)) from the syringe to Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (90, 109, 2))

[2019-09-11 23:52:37.678] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (90, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:38.331] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (10u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (90, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:38.856] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (5u)) from the morphine bottle to [syringe] (Medbay Storage (90, 110, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:44.271] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has attempted to inject Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 108, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:47.321] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has injected Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) with the syringe which had /datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 108, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:52:47.322] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/morphine (15u)) from the syringe to Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 108, 2))
[2019-09-11 23:53:08.142] ATTACK: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey) has grabbed Hasenpfeffer/(Dirk Mandar) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Storage (89, 110, 2))

At this point, you attach a gas mask and an anesthetic tank to Hasenpfeffer, open the valve and stuff him in a locked locker.

Once your victim ahelps, I decide to intervene and we have this discussion:
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[2019-09-11 23:55:32.541] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers)->EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey): Any particular reason you're overdosing that guy on morphine?
[2019-09-11 23:56:04.319] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers)->EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey): Please click on my name to reply.
[2019-09-11 23:56:16.197] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey)->Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers): been an ass with me before, punched me and call me names so i'm letting his head cool down in the locker for a bit
[2019-09-11 23:57:37.038] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers)->EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey): It's one thing to inject him once or twice to get him to chill out but you've given him enough to knock him out for 20 minutes.
You can't do that.
please review our rules: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
I'm going to revive him and tell him to leave you alone.
[2019-09-11 23:59:28.080] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey)->Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers): there is nothing against tranquing someone for being a dick your first rule states that Legitimate conflicts can happen
[2019-09-11 23:59:56.017] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Phuzzylodgik/(Carl Jowers)->EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey): You can't remove someone from the round for an extended period of time.

I was in the process of writing out a more thorough explanation when, your fun having been ended, you disconnected:
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[2019-09-12 00:01:21.994] ACCESS: Logout: EnterTheJake/(Marion Losey)
[2019-09-12 00:01:21.995] GAME: EnterTheJake[DC]/(Marion Losey) EnterTheJake[DC]/(Marion Losey) is no longer owning mob Marion Losey(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Space (89, 162, 2))

So, having been presented with a brand new player who...
  1. Engaged in exceedingly griefy behavior
  2. Lied about the circumstances when confronted
  3. Disconnected in the middle of our discussion
I permabanned you, asking you to come to our forums and explain yourself.

Seeing that you have done so, I'm perfectly willing to lift this ban provided you promise to read and abide by our rules moving forward.

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Re: <Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

Postby Jake » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:23 pm #553259

alright no problem at all, i'm more familiar with the game as a whole thank you for being so quick and efficient in reviewing my case.

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Re: <Phuzzylodgik>] <Jake> - Banned for knocking someone unconscious in self defense

Postby capn_monkeypaw » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:13 am #553306

Your ban has been lifted. I look forward to seeing you on the servers.


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