Full ban reason: "Blatant metacomms with sasukexsakura1337. Warned about this before. In this case, Darek rolled wizard, had sasuke ghost from his crew role and bought apprentice for him. Upon getting on ship, neither of them spoke a single word but got loaded up on gear just fine."
The rule you are breaking in doing this:
2. Do not use information gained outside of in character means.
I.e.. metagaming. This especially refers to communication between players outside of the game via things like Skype, known as metacomms. Characters are otherwise allowed to know everything about ingame mechanics or antagonists, as well as keep persistent friendships or relationships with other characters when not for the purpose of unfair advantage by teaming up together for little IC reason.
Metacomming is a very serious breach of trust that is generally pretty hard to detect and prove, which is why this is a permanent ban. You also used it to conspire with your friend to give him antagonist status, which only makes it that much worse. As luck would have it, I was watching the two of you because of some (lack of) interactions you had the round before. I didnt see either of you say a single word to each other for an extended period of time, yet you met up several times both to help and wordlessly hand over guns.
I've dug through the history here, and yes you are correct you werent explicitly warned not to metacomm with sasukexsakura1337 when first contacted about them. You were both playing from the same IP at the time, which is the reason you were questioned about your relation.
Full round logs, only accessible by admins since ticket logs are secret.
https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/event- ... 2/game.log
https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/event- ... 9/game.log
Round 131622
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[2020-03-06 13:12:39.199] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Hey. Can I ask what you're doing with that body bro.
[2020-03-06 13:12:48.460] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): what body
[2020-03-06 13:13:04.783] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): the cargo?
[2020-03-06 13:13:18.075] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Adrian's, by any chance do you know someone with the ckey SasukexSakura1337
[2020-03-06 13:13:39.214] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): jsut getting access to all the departaments and stuff, got 3 ID on my already
[2020-03-06 13:14:10.438] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Right... do you know anyone who uses that ckey though?
[2020-03-06 13:14:22.521] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): ckey?
[2020-03-06 13:14:29.406] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Username, SasukexSakura1337
[2020-03-06 13:15:41.710] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): No?
[2020-03-06 13:16:06.325] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): what do you mean? what is a ckey
[2020-03-06 13:16:38.384] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): I already said, a username. You beelined after Adrian's body so I was wondering if you knew someone who uses the username SasukexSakura1337 ?
[2020-03-06 13:18:32.508] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter): im not sure how I was bleeding after the adrians body, i did the same thing in medbay, searching for access. sasukexsakura sounds like my brothers lol username
[2020-03-06 13:19:13.575] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Doctor Brutality/(Jaime Lowstetter)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Right ok, thanks. That's all I needed to hear dude.
Round 131639
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[2020-03-06 16:14:15.663] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Hey, do you know a player called SasukexSakura1337?
[2020-03-06 16:14:30.512] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): got asked this last round i played in school
[2020-03-06 16:14:47.231] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): So he's not your brother?
[2020-03-06 16:14:54.185] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): he is why?
[2020-03-06 16:15:01.387] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): "sasukexsakura sounds like my brothers lol username "
[2020-03-06 16:15:13.005] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): yeah`?
[2020-03-06 16:15:27.719] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): sorry#he is, why
[2020-03-06 16:15:47.247] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): So are these two different people who happen to use similar usernames, or is he actually your brother
[2020-03-06 16:16:29.529] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): what do you mean im lost, sasukeandsakura is my brother, what is the other one?
[2020-03-06 16:16:57.417] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): SasukexSakura1337, the BYOND user
[2020-03-06 16:17:31.811] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): oh there is a sasukeandsakura and a sasukeandsakrua1337?
[2020-03-06 16:18:06.570] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->Darek143/(Maxwell Green): Well, one is what you said your brother's LoL username was, and the other is your very similarly named classmate. I'm sure you can understand why I'm suspicious about this
[2020-03-06 16:18:40.891] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Darek143/(Maxwell Green)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): yeah i fully understand, my i told my firends about this game and they both are weebs
SasukexSakura1337 being questioned about your relation in the same round:
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[2020-03-06 16:08:50.904] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey): Hey, do you know a player called Darek143?
[2020-03-06 16:09:18.687] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): Yeah hes the one of the people that introduced me to ss13
[2020-03-06 16:09:36.092] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey): Is that all you know about him?
[2020-03-06 16:10:06.829] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): Hes my classmate and we usually play ss13 mid class
[2020-03-06 16:11:06.073] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich)->SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey): Do you use the same username in any other games?
[2020-03-06 16:11:32.216] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): His username I'm not sure. I ususally use -snip- as my username
[2020-03-06 16:13:50.189] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: SasukexSakura1337/(Adrian Willey)->Thunder12345/(Nyaazmin Meowcovich): If there seem to be more usernames on his ip than one, might be his brother trying out aswell
Lets go through your side of the story, from your appeal.
I got the wizard role and i called my mate on discord and told him he should off himself and play with me
Given my suspicion that you were communicating outside the game in the last round already, I dont buy this.
I must have misunderstood the rules as i didnt think it was not allowed to metacom for getting a apprentice as it is still kind of luck based if anyone is dead by then and because that doesnt really affect the station or doesnt give anyone an advantage or disadvantage unlesse he was a head.
You used out of game communications to tell your friend it was a wizard round, which on its own is a big no no. He then used that information to be given antagonist by you. This isn't about whether or not this is a victimless crime.
The admin also said that me and sasukexsakura1337 were warned for metacommning before which was not true, that was a coincidence as i showed my friends and my brother the game and my brother and my firend had similar BYOND account names, so my brother was using same ip as me so that made a connection between me and my firend. But there is not much more than that, just a conneciton, no rules were broken.
Both you and sasukexsakura1337 were playing on the same IP during both of the above quoted rounds, and there is no trace of a third account playing with you. I dont buy that your brother is involved at all here, considering you are claiming sasukexsakura1337 both is and isnt your brother in the above ahelp logs. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what is your brothers byond account name?
You overall seem to have been pretty dishonest with us during all this, which makes me quite wary of giving you any leeway here. You decided to lie about knowing your friend and who they were on two separate occasions when questioned about it, which leads me to believe you knew what you were doing was wrong. Your playtime is high enough that being familiar with our rules is expected of you.
Do keep in mind that even if you dont get unbanned as a result of this appeal, your conduct here will be scrutinized in future appeals. If there was ever a time to be honest, its now.