[Pumkin0] Daxyeen - Note for permabrigging armory intruder

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[Pumkin0] Daxyeen - Note for permabrigging armory intruder

Post by Dax Dupont » #582307

BYOND account: DaxYeen
Character name: Caroline Dupont
Ban type: Note
Ban reason: As a warden, permabrigged the former detective for allegedly walking into the armory that had recently been opened by a rod. Logs were investigated and from what I could tell, the moth had possibly never entered the armory. Encouraged to appeal on the forums if you believe this is made in error, but from what I investigated I don't believe it's in goof faith to put someone in perma for just walking into the armory - not having taken anything from it or broken their way in.
Time ban was placed: 2020-11-27 22:12:13 from the ban window which should be server time
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 151099
Your side of the story:
Rod had penerated the armory, I was trying to prevent the guns from being stolen, and Elioxa Ottoen(who was before a detective, but quit and was demoted to assistant by hoplet so an assistant for all intents and purposes) entered the armory going straight up for the guns.
Image was their path(brig had been repaired before I took the screenshot)

I admit that I cannot prove that they were in the armory aside from my own eyes. Shortly before I started chasing them and shooting you can see me throwing guns into a pile to locker em them
[2020-11-27 21:33:46.914] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has thrown the laser gun (Armory (107,175,2))
-snip- unrelated cargo etc
[2020-11-27 21:33:51.158] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has thrown the laser gun (Armory (107,175,2))
-snip- unrelated cargo etc
[2020-11-27 21:33:53.925] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has thrown the laser gun (Armory (107,175,2))
-snip-monkeyman logs
[2020-11-27 21:33:57.488] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has thrown the energy gun (Armory (107,175,2))
-snip-monkeyman logs and chemistry
[2020-11-27 21:34:31.446] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [chair] with the disabler beam from Security Office (Security Office (115,170,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:32.288] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at Top W. Adam/(Zack Adam) with the disabler beam from Security Office (NEWHP: 100) (Security Office (119,170,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:33.048] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [resin floor] with the disabler beam from Security Office (Security Office (122,170,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:33.405] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has shot Tearling/(Elioxa Ottoen) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Security Office (122,170,2))
-snip-monkeyman logs
[2020-11-27 21:34:33.553] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has shot Catistian/(OAKY) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Security Office (123,170,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:34.241] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [resin floor] with the disabler beam from Security Office (Security Office (125,170,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:34.603] ATTACK: Hatman0416/(Nat Galligher) has attacked [glowing resin] with the survival knife (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (147,99,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:34.739] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has shot Catistian/(OAKY) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Security Office (126,170,2))
-snip- unrelated logs of injections
[2020-11-27 21:34:37.925] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Fore Maintenance (Fore Maintenance (131,166,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:37.982] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has shot Tearling/(Elioxa Ottoen) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Fore Maintenance (131,166,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:38.241] ATTACK: Hatman0416/(Nat Galligher) has attacked [glowing resin] with the survival knife (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (147,99,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:38.458] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Fore Maintenance (Fore Maintenance (131,168,2))
[2020-11-27 21:34:38.977] ATTACK: DaxYeen/(Caroline Dupont) has fired at [disposal pipe] with the disabler beam from Fore Maintenance (Fore Maintenance (131,168,2))
Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't think it's unreasonable to perma someone for trespassing into the armory and going straight for some guns
References of good conduct: 2beard
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Re: [Pumkin0] Daxyeen - Note for permabrigging armory intruder

Post by Pumpkin0 » #582326

Thanks for making this appeal.

I do believe that after further review, I have made this note in error. It is reasonable to brig someone for entering the armory, no matter their history or what job they had previously taken. Looking at the logs, your actions of throwing the guns in the armory as you were packing them support that you were in the armory right before you started firing at Elioxa. There is no way to truly prove what happened but I believe that the note in itself isn't fair and I will be removing it, as they should not have been in the armory or in security at all by that point if they had been demoted to assistant, and logs prove that they had been in security. Permabrigging someone on Manuel for entering the armory is quite fair.
Sorry for the hassle, the note should be gone by the next time you play!
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