[Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

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[Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Eskjjlj » #584033

BYOND account: Eskjjlj
Character name: Charlotte Melinda
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1 Week
Ban reason: Rule 8 violation. Inappropriate say and emote logs IC with sexual overtones across the entire shift. Stripping players in an overtly sexual manner, crawled under a player attempting to get them to "sit" on them, saying "cat with no undies" multiple times, you have a final warning from Jan 2019 that I quote, "Any further inappropriate statements will be met with an immediate permaban" and along with other Rule 8 violations historically. Player did not understand why their behavior was inappropriate and seemed to think not being accepting of this behavior was an MRP issue. No. It is a /tg/ issue. Do not repeat this on ANY of our servers. Any further inappropriate behavior under rule 8 will be met with an immediate permaban.
Time ban was placed: 2020-12-15 03:04:39 (server time)
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 152195 https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/man ... nd-152195/
Your side of the story:
I had just finished an extremely chaotic round on bagil where as the captain I had to defend the armory against a dozen non-antag tiders who tried to rob it roundstart.
Thinking I needed a break after this unfortunate experience I noticed a new round was starting on Manuel. "Why not?" I thought to myself. "I can have a quiet round on Manuel."

So I joined the new round and tried to roleplay with the other players.
To note, I don't usually play on Manuel but I made sure to read the Manuel discord beforehand to be able to fit in and came across this funny meme about a player:
Spoiler:
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Her in-game name is Green Dahn.
I saw her in-game and started socializing, roleplaying as a friendly but mischievous cat while she roleplays as a panicked cat.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 01:52:04.417] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies" (Central Primary Hallway (125,141,2))
[...] talking to Rob Robinson
[2020-12-15 01:52:30.211] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies!!" (Central Primary Hallway (124,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:32.386] ATTACK: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) has grabbed GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (121,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:34.914] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) is being stripped of the red pants by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Central Primary Hallway (121,143,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:35.531] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) has shoved Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (121,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:49.980] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) has shoved Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (NEWHP: 100) (Locker Room (129,151,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:50.941] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) has shoved Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 100) (Locker Room (128,151,2))
[2020-12-15 01:52:56.374] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "ELP" (Central Primary Hallway (121,143,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:02.481] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "LARRY" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:04.226] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "HELP" (Central Primary Hallway (110,145,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:11.500] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "THEY ARE TRYING TO STEAL MY PANYS" (Central Primary Hallway (108,143,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:13.124] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "PANTS" (Central Primary Hallway (108,143,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:13.683] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:15.899] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) wags her tail. (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:22.977] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "WHO IS THIS" (Central Primary Hallway (106,143,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:37.799] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "i dont wanna steal them" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:40.341] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "just remove them" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:40.653] ADMIN: Misdoubtful/(Hugs-The-Humans) checked the individual player panel for Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda).
[2020-12-15 01:53:41.522] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "for a sec" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:44.544] SAY: Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "it's sexual harassment..." (Central Primary Hallway (112,145,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:45.939] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "AHHHHHH" (Central Primary Hallway (90,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:48.156] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "ah....." (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:53:51.438] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "okies" (Central Primary Hallway (111,144,2))
[2020-12-15 01:54:16.377] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "Charlotte Melinda is chaseing me trying to take my pants" (Central Primary Hallway (124,115,2))
[2020-12-15 01:55:47.186] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat wit no undies" (Bar (133,135,2))
After this comical interaction i go on my way. Roaming around the station trying to accomplish my objective since I had rolled traitor.
The task proved to be quite difficult since the security team nearly instantly responded after I broke into engineering.
So I went to the bar to try and socialize with other crewmembers. Saw Green Dahn there and greeted her.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:09:33.568] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat wit no undies" (Bar (133,127,2))
[2020-12-15 02:09:39.374] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) waves. (Bar (133,127,2))
After this I went back to walking around the station and I got beat up badly by random crewmembers for seemingly no reason.
Which is why I was brought to the medbay and healed by a paramedic.
As I come back to my senses I notice Green is laying on the other stasis bed so I thank the paramedic and go up to her.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:20:16.754] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "I'll watch over my cat friend here" (Medbay Treatment Center (82,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:20:42.669] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) gently strokes Green Dahn's hair to comfort her during those hard times. (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
She is unconscious so I make small talk with the doctor healing her as I wait for her to heal.
I also use the opportunity to verify if the meme was true. (It was.) But the doctor thought I was looting her.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:20:57.083] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "say you know there's a legend about her" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:03.991] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "... Huh?" (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:09.050] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "yes..." (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:11.440] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) is being stripped of the red pants by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Medbay Treatment Center (85,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:16.876] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) has been stripped of the red pants by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Medbay Treatment Center (85,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:21.056] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "Wh- W-what are you doing?" (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:23.751] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) is having the red pants put on them by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Medbay Treatment Center (85,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:26.462] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "uhhh" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:26.840] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) had the red pants put on them by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Medbay Treatment Center (85,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:30.767] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "My hands slipped" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:35.420] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "i wanted to look in her pockets" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:39.624] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "... Um." (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:44.372] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "there" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:51.940] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "The fabled cig packet" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:21:52.091] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "I ... don't smoke." (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
The doctor seemed to have issues healing her so I give him some advice..
I saw her drink a lot of hooch earlier at the bar so I had a hunch on what the issue was.
She woke up and I started chatting.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:22:31.526] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "check the storage" (Medbay Treatment Center (82,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:22:36.883] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "Ah! Thank you!" (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:22:41.409] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) claps. (Medbay Treatment Center (83,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:23:10.468] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "her liver might be dead" (Medbay Treatment Center (83,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:23:18.076] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "... Y-yeah I know." (Medbay Treatment Center (85,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:23:32.968] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) nods. (Medbay Treatment Center (83,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:23:41.902] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "gambate Riker-kun" (Medbay Treatment Center (83,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:23:52.666] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) jumps in the air, arm raised! (Medbay Treatment Center (83,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:24:08.654] WHISPER: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "hey there Dahn" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:24:19.304] WHISPER: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "It seems that... the legend is true" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:24:24.278] EMOTE: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) claps. (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2020-12-15 02:24:52.945] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "am i good to go?" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:05.991] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "I wonder how you earned your nickname though Dahn" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,102,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:19.475] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "There must have been a FIRST" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,102,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:32.359] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "what nickname" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:36.639] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "you know" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:39.709] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "Cat wit no undies" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:46.375] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "you are the only one who has ever called me that" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:50.933] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "am i?" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2020-12-15 02:25:56.233] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "and i have no fucking clue who you are" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:00.265] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "... O-okay your liver is ... really bad." (Medbay Treatment Center (85,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:00.391] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "i could swear I wasnt" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:07.849] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "and im pretty sure you assulted me" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:29.734] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "eh" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:33.884] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "i can live without a liver" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:40.353] SAY: Mario90900/(Jon Riker) "We- um... You might need to give it time for your liver to heal..." (Medbay Treatment Center (85,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:43.245] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "badass girl" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2020-12-15 02:26:47.768] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "ok" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
I initiated the cute cat protocols and was about to give her hugs as a reward for recovering from alcoholism.
She said she wanted to sit so I told her to go ahead and sit.
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:27:07.499] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "should i just like" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:09.463] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "here's a reward for your recovery" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))

[2020-12-15 02:27:09.660] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "sit for a bit" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,100,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:15.027] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "go ahead" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,99,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:24.350] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "sit" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,102,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:26.210] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "and recover" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
For some reason she went crazy after this and started running and screaming for help saying I was sexually assaulting her?
Spoiler:
[2020-12-15 02:27:33.640] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "help" (Medbay Treatment Center (83,102,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:42.208] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "Charlotte Melinda is trying to assult me again" (Medbay Central (89,103,2))
[2020-12-15 02:27:50.094] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "SEXUALY ASSULT" (Medbay Central (97,109,2))
[2020-12-15 02:28:02.719] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "TRYING TO GET ME TO SIT ON THEM" (Central Primary Hallway (89,126,2))
[2020-12-15 02:28:07.656] SAY: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "AND THEY TOOK MY PANTS" (Central Primary Hallway (89,128,2))

She then runs away and I get beaten and arrested by an officer then bwoinked and banned.
Here's the ahelp log : https://sb.atlantaned.space/ticket/f19247a709629841

Why you think you should be unbanned:

My conduct was in no way intended to be erotic. I was acting affectionately towards other crewmembers but for some reason the admins thought I was acting in an erotic manner?
I did not make any reference to anything sexual, rather is was Green Dahn who was screaming sexual assault.
I was simply trying to fit in using the knowledge gleaned from the manuel discord.

Moreover the ban reason is false. I did not try to get her to sit on me. I told her to sit so I could keep her compagny while she recovered.
And I did not strip her in a sexual manner?? It was for the "no undies" memes.
If stripping another player was sexual then all the players collecting shoes or jumpsuits as a gimmick should be banned too because it is their fetish or something?
My intent was having fun with other players by roleplaying as a funny and affectionate cat.

Finally, my last note about "inappropriate behavior" which is referenced dates back from nearly two years ago, there is no reason for it to be used as a justification for the ban. On the contrary this is proof I have been on my best behavior during those two years.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Timberpoes » #584038

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/152 ... e=game.txt

Below: 2 minutes of conversation in the Central Primary Hallway, the first entry is the first thing you said upon joining the shift.
Spoiler:

Code: Select all

01:52:04	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies"	(125, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:06	SAY	Jerry Derpington/(Rob Robinson) "man"	(126, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:10	SAY	Jerry Derpington/(Rob Robinson) "you guys remember that one person"	(126, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:12	SAY	Jerry Derpington/(Rob Robinson) "named Lucie"	(126, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:14	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "whomstve"	(125, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:19	SAY	Jerry Derpington/(Rob Robinson) "her last name started with a B."	(126, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:26	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "no idea"	(125, 141, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:30	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies!!"	(124, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:32	SAY	Misdoubtful/(Hugs-The-Humans) (DEAD) "It feels a lot less smooth than a week ago"	(123, 114, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:43	SAY	Misdoubtful/(Hugs-The-Humans) (DEAD) "But maybe its just post not playing clarity"	(123, 114, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:52:56	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "ELP"	(121, 143, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:02	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "LARRY"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:04	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "HELP"	(110, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:05	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "yes ?"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:09	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "with what ?"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:11	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "THEY ARE TRYING TO STEAL MY PANYS"	(108, 143, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:13	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "PANTS"	(108, 143, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:13	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:19	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) (DEAD) "not zoey"	(109, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:22	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "WHO IS THIS"	(106, 143, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:23	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "alright"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:26	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "please don't"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:28	SAY	NecromancerAnne/(Sheness Hollow) (DEAD) "This is the bad blond cat"	(109, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:28	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "steal their pants"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:32	SAY	NecromancerAnne/(Sheness Hollow) (DEAD) "the racist one"	(109, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:37	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "i dont wanna steal them"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:40	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "WHY ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO STEAL MY PANTS"	(105, 143, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:40	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "just remove them"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:41	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "for a sec"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:44	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "it's sexual harassment..."	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:45	SAY	GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) "AHHHHHH"	(90, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:48	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "ah....."	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:48	SAY	Woldmord/(Larry Johnson) "don't do that"	(112, 145, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
01:53:51	SAY	Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "okies"	(111, 144, 2)	Central Primary Hallway
That's about as much effort as I can be bothered to muster on this appeal. For the above alone I have grounds to ban you, let alone all the rest of the line toeing you did across the rest of the shift.

I had grounds to permaban you for this Rule 8 shittery based on your note history, however you've managed to get 2 whole years without any incidents like this - So I was originally going to only note you for it. And I really didn't want to hold your historic notes like a guillotine above your neck.

You took no responsibility for anything you said or did. You deflected it at every opportunity. You talked your way into this ban and I can only apologise to the rest of the /tg/ playerbase that I didn't do it for longer.

Appeal denied.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Eskjjlj » #584040

Timberpoes wrote: That's about as much effort as I can be bothered to muster on this appeal. For the above alone I have grounds to ban you, let alone all the rest of the line toeing you did across the rest of the shift.

I had grounds to permaban you for this Rule 8 shittery based on your note history, however you've managed to get 2 whole years without any incidents like this - So I was originally going to only note you for it. And I really didn't want to hold your historic notes like a guillotine above your neck.

You took no responsibility for anything you said or did. You deflected it at every opportunity. You talked your way into this ban and I can only apologise to the rest of the /tg/ playerbase that I didn't do it for longer.

Appeal denied.
This is undeniable proof that Manuel does not follow the same rules as the other servers despite what you told me in the ticket:
Timberpoes wrote: "You're, depending on your intent, either coming close to breaking or outright breaking Rule 8 of the main /tg/ ruleset. Manuel has nothing to do with it."
To understand the logs you quoted in an erotic fashion you would need to perform olympic level mental gymnastics. The same thing happening on another /tg/ servers would not lead any admin to believe they should apply a ban.
And again I have no reason to "take responsability", as you say it, for the simple fact that I am innocent.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Timberpoes » #584041

We're done here. I made my decision.

Since it's clear you don't accept my decision, this will be left open. You may now wait for the headmins to come along and decide whether to uphold or overturn this ban.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Lacran » #584095

Just posting to highlight evidence from the logs that are separate from the face-sitting accusation.
Eskjjlj wrote: To understand the logs you quoted in an erotic fashion you would need to perform olympic level mental gymnastics.
Eskjjlj wrote: [2020-12-15 01:52:30.211] SAY: Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "cat with no undies!!" (Central Primary Hallway (124,144,2))

01:53:37 SAY Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "i dont wanna steal them" (111, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:53:40 SAY Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "just remove them" (111, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:53:41 SAY Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) "for a sec" (111, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway

"I also use the opportunity to verify if the meme was true. (It was.)"

"[2020-12-15 02:21:16.876] ATTACK: GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) GreenKnight2903/(Green Dahn) has been stripped of the red pants by Eskjjlj/(Charlotte Melinda) (Medbay Treatment Center (85,104,2))"
Its pretty clear from the logs posted you repeatedly tried to undress a player so you could see their genitalia, you then managed to do so when they were unconscious in Medbay.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Eskjjlj » #584108

Lacran wrote:Its pretty clear from the logs posted you repeatedly tried to undress a player so you could see their genitalia, you then managed to do so when they were unconscious in Medbay.
This is wrong.
The facts are : I called her "cat wit no undies" a few times as per the meme, then stripped her of her jumpsuit/pants a few seconds to confirm whether the meme was true.

The biggest misunderstanding here is that people believe I have been chasing her all shift around the station. That is simply not the case.
I was minding my own business and the three times I ran into Green Dahn by pure chance I then interacted with her in a friendly cat-like manner.
So it seems I have no choice but to summarize what I did this round:

The map is Metastation.
1) Join roundstart as assistant and see I rolled traitor with objectives to prevent two atmos techs from escaping.
2) Grab tools and metal with the plan of breaking into atmos eventually.
3) See Green Dahn in the halls and have a chat with her. (the first log entry in the OP)
4) Go in maint to wall off the back entrance of atmos.
5) Walk to the engineering lobby and bolt open the front door. Once inside I wall off the entrance to the engine room to prevent engineers to come and stop me.
6) An engineer named Tanya Longstreet appears in the lobby and confronts the QM, who was nearby, and I about the hacked door. I put the blame on the QM but it also seems someone reported the crime to security as about 5 officers and the HoS come running.
7) I pretend to be a bystander just watching the crime scene as security is trying to figure out what happened but I still get beaten up by an officer... I don't serve any jail time though.
8) I go back to atmos maint and more specifically I tail an atmosian into the incinerator where I steal a Rapid Piping Device with the intent of flooding atmos once I managed to trap the Technicians inside it.
9) With this new tool in my possession I walk back to the engineering lobby to try and break into atmos again but the engineer Tanya is here again. I hug her a couple times to show i'm not an enemy but she shoves and cuffs me then hands me to an officer. He drags me away from engineering and releases me.
10) Defeated I walk away and get beaten up by the same officer who beat me up earlier.
11) I manage to stumble into the kitchen where I eat some fried eggs. I hug and greet another player who was here and get tabled repeatedly causing me to lose half my health.
12) After this rough experience I go to the bar where I order a cocktail to drink my sorrow away. I have a chat with the bartender and greet Green Dahn who was also here, drinking a whole bottle of hooch ensuring her liver would give up on life.
13) I heard over the radio about all-access being out so I go in front of the HoP office where I see two players argue about chairs built in the HoP line. I try to calm them down only to get beaten to crit... I suppose thats how they vent their anger...
14) A paramedic finds me and brings me to the medbay to heal me. I thank him profusely and offer him payment which he refuses.
15) I see Green Dahn laying in the other stasis bed and roleplay with her as per the OP.
16) Walking away from the medbay I get beaten silly by an officer who arrests me and I get brigged for 15 minutes.

As you can see, I was trying to make the game more fun for everyone as a snuggly cat and at the same time to accomplish my traitor objectives. There are no issues with this type of roleplay on Terry or Bagil but it seems Manuel is a special place.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Cobby » #584145

Timberpoes wrote:We're done here. I made my decision.

Since it's clear you don't accept my decision, this will be left open. You may now wait for the headmins to come along and decide whether to uphold or overturn this ban.
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Re: [Timberpoes] Manuel mistakes

Post by Domitius » #584751

In the several instances that Eskjjlj interacted with this specific player they did so in an incredibly creepy and erotic manner. The other player made it clear when they could that they did not want to engage in this role-play as well which makes this gross activity measurably more degrees worse. Finally when taking into account your prior rule 8 violations this ban shows to be incredibly lenient and will be upheld.

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