[Naloac] The golem ban

[liveingamer]

BYOND account: Liveingamer
Character name: I dont remember but i remember i was a golem
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permament
Ban reason: Self Antagged with abunch of other golems going around the station causing fights to murder people. You've been told before this it would lead to a perma, here it is.
Time ban was placed: 2020-07-16
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry i suppose
Round ID in which ban was placed: 142111
Your side of the story: I as a autistic golem attacked a random with toolbox and shouted ''LING''
Why you think you should be unbanned: After 6 months of isolation self damnation and doom i realized i was just ruining other peoples fun. I missed to play Jeegling Juggles the clown on TG since it was the server which i learned how to play basically the default SS13 in my perspective. Im not going to do any dumbshit like that anymore. 180 days was enough for me to learn not self antag again.
References of good conduct: I reunited with my family again, made new friends to play D&D, played on other servers like Paradise (Mostly detective) and sometimes Yog when it had high pop. And thats all if you accept them as good reference. Thanks for reading

[bobbahbrown]

Where permaban appeals typically revolve around references of good character, in combination with time since the ban, I can't help but feel it's important to mention that you may have failed to mention you also played on Beestation and Fulpstation.

A few hours before making your appeal you were given a global day ban on Beestation, seen here, the situation of which was described by the banning admin Naevi as...

...well he joined our MRP server, started calling security members fascists, for "some action", when he got set to arrest he started stun proding security officers and attacking them with chainsaw arm that he got implanted earlier. relative new account on bee, 30 hours only, i couldn't tell if he was a shitter or just new player without rule knowledge. But apparently he didn't see anything bad in his behavior. Plus when i asked him why is he attacking people he said he isn't, only when shown logs he actually said it was a "fight"

A few weeks ago you also received a week ban from Fulpstation for griefing, found here through CentCom, pictured below.



Both of which bring into question your statement of...

180 days was enough for me to learn not self antag again.

always inquisitive,
bobbah "bee" brown

[liveingamer]

Where permaban appeals typically revolve around references of good character, in combination with time since the ban, I can't help but feel it's important to mention that you may have failed to mention you also played on Beestation and Fulpstation.

A few hours before making your appeal you were given a global day ban on Beestation, seen here, the situation of which was described by the banning admin Naevi as...

...well he joined our MRP server, started calling security members fascists, for "some action", when he got set to arrest he started stun proding security officers and attacking them with chainsaw arm that he got implanted earlier. relative new account on bee, 30 hours only, i couldn't tell if he was a shitter or just new player without rule knowledge. But apparently he didn't see anything bad in his behavior. Plus when i asked him why is he attacking people he said he isn't, only when shown logs he actually said it was a "fight"

A few weeks ago you also received a week ban from Fulpstation for griefing, found here through CentCom, pictured below.



Both of which bring into question your statement of...

180 days was enough for me to learn not self antag again.

always inquisitive,
bobbah "bee" brown

Welp they werent a good reference.

[bobbahbrown]

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Welp they werent a good reference.

I would like to state that in posting the information I did above, I have only now considered it is currently not asked of players who are appealing to disclose if they have had recent issues in other communities, and therefore it is unfair to assume that not mentioning the two incidents was done in bad faith. I have opened a policy thread to address this, found here.

With that being said, to the appealer, it may be helpful to address the issues above to help the admin handling this appeal understand that those incidents above will not happen on our servers.

The players references of good conduct should still be considered in their full value.

[liveingamer]

In appealing this perma ban i already accept that i wont do it again. I know it was bad and there is no reason i can say else. I stated what i can state as good reference and i say that 180 days was enough to understand why not to self antag we can talk the bans that were given by beestation and fulpstation.

[Naloac]

The fact you didnt bring them up sets off alarm bells, ill be willing to unban you if you agreed to a probation for a few months, doing any major rule breaking will have it perma ban reapplied. You fine with that?

[liveingamer]

Yes. I agree