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Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:09 pm
by masincasasirom
BYOND account: BigChungus123
Character name: Bob Banana/HONKIE METH
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 7 Day
Ban reason: "Killed a bunch of people as a MRP traitor without an objective. Murderbone is not allowed on MRP. Seems to have a prior isue with RP rules too"
Time ban was placed: 2021-02-06 10:48:20
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 155805
Your side of the story: I was a clown tot, server was dead, almost nobody on. I wanted to get the clown car into sm achievment, so I got a clown car, collected 2 people (one was my objective) and rammed us into the sm. I didnt get the achievment and I was dissapointed
Why you think you should be unbanned: I dont see this as murderbone at all, I killed 2 people and one was my objective so I only killed 1 innocent person, imo it should be a day ban and not 7 days ban for just one person

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:52 pm
by SuperNovaa41
On the MRP rules.
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Roleplay_Rules

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:53 pm
by masincasasirom
SuperNovaa41 wrote:On the MRP rules.
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Roleplay_Rules

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.
"Murderboning refers to killing typically **large amounts of the station’s population** without regard and/or in direct violation of one’s objectives." 1 person is large amount?

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:54 pm
by Dax Dupont
Additionally you also destabilized the SM, causing the round to end.

Also this was low pop so already so little people.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:42 pm
by Sparkezel
If I remember correctly, items such as His Grace and romerol, allow you to murderbone because they are in the shop. Doesn't clown car also follow that? As in it allows you to murderbone using it, otherwise it should be disabled from the shop because its a bantrap.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:14 am
by spookuni
I was also observing the round in question - neither of the people you killed were your target
In fact, you killed every active player on the station EXCEPT your target.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:10 am
by masincasasirom
spookuni wrote:I was also observing the round in question - neither of the people you killed were your target
In fact, you killed every active player on the station EXCEPT your target.
How, there was one genetecist and a scientist, the scientists was my target. Also there were other people but I guess they just ghosted

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:17 am
by masincasasirom
Sparkezel wrote:If I remember correctly, items such as His Grace and romerol, allow you to murderbone because they are in the shop. Doesn't clown car also follow that? As in it allows you to murderbone using it, otherwise it should be disabled from the shop because its a bantrap.
Exactly, you aint gonna spend 20tc on one objective

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:17 am
by Dax Dupont
Sparkezel wrote:If I remember correctly, items such as His Grace and romerol, allow you to murderbone because they are in the shop. Doesn't clown car also follow that? As in it allows you to murderbone using it, otherwise it should be disabled from the shop because its a bantrap.
Clown car on its own does not murder people.

I don't think it does damage at all. It just kidnaps people which allows for non lethal clown antics.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:19 pm
by masincasasirom
Dax Dupont wrote:
Sparkezel wrote:If I remember correctly, items such as His Grace and romerol, allow you to murderbone because they are in the shop. Doesn't clown car also follow that? As in it allows you to murderbone using it, otherwise it should be disabled from the shop because its a bantrap.
Clown car on its own does not murder people.

I don't think it does damage at all. It just kidnaps people which allows for non lethal clown antics.
But where do those people end? Most of the times in the SM chamber or in space, havent seen any clown car that doesnt end up somewhere deadly

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:49 pm
by Sparkezel
Dax Dupont wrote:
I don't think it does damage at all. It just kidnaps people which allows for non lethal clown antics.
Other than clown taxi I cant really see any other non-lethal clown antics. Clown car was pretty much meant to kidnap as much people as possible, get more access from their ID's then either crash into SM (achievement) or go into space pretty much removing like most of the station if done correctly. And it does do damage if you crash into a wall, it also has some toys, including a cannon, if you emag it. Its just whacky.

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:48 am
by spookuni
How, there was one genetecist and a scientist, the scientists was my target. Also there were other people but I guess they just ghosted
There were two geneticists and one scientist active on station - with one AFK assistant in an escape pod. The scientist was your target in toxins and you kidnapped and killed both geneticists, leaving one scientist floundering their way through learning toxins on their own and an otherwise empty station

Re: Ban appeal

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:36 am
by Krusvik
It's safe to say this one is going to run its full ban length.

I'll go ahead and lock this, please do remember MRP rules when playing on MRP servers!