[Wubli] Legoscape - Admin False Presumption Of Intention
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:18 am
BYOND account: Legoscape
Character name: Jessica Sulivard
Ban type: Note
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 164373
Ban reason: After arguing with the CE over the SM setup, asked one of the wizards at least three times to "remove the CE". This was not acted upon by the wizard, but asking an antagonist whose entire gimmick is (usually) to harm humans to remove someone does not sit well for an ASIMOV lawset. No matter how many times I tried to explain this in ahelps, they refused to understand. Please be more careful when playing silicon. Advised to appeal in the forums if they truly think I am incorrect.
Your side of the story:
During the beginning of the shift, I began as B.E.A.N, C02 Engine Maker Exdroinare. 10~ Minutes into the shift. I hook up the line of C02 to the Fuel line to produce a pressure C02 Engine, I build a robust cooling system, and an Atmos tech turns on the emitters without the cooling system finished, SM delams to 70% And drops quickly. CE comes into the engine room and actively attempts to mess with pipes when I begin pumping c02 coolant into the SM. I call security to ask to remove the CE from engineering "he's sabotaging the engine," I shout over comms. After rustling with the CE, He threatens to kill me and tells me "you don't understand atmos". (As he empties the damn SM of c02 coolant like what?). I leave engineering to look for security as I see two wizards running around doing fireballs and stuff. With almost everyone nuggets or dead on the floor, I ask one of the only humans left alive on board; I ask the wizard to "remove the ce" because this wizard spoke to me and seemed kinda friendly despite the fact of human harm.
Why do you think you should be unbanned?:
For the record, The admin that had added this note left out the parts of me actively looking for security or even calling security to remove the Cheif engineer from engineering. "Remove the CE" is a very ambiguous quote that can be left subjective. However, In this case, I was attempting to remove a dangerous unknowledgeable Chief Engineer from blowing up a quarter of the station. The noting admin admitted to seeing my attempts to remove the Chief Engineer from engineering by calling security but left that portion out of the note, essentially ignoring them in my arugement.
Under Silicon law, Wizards are considered humans. Antagonist or not, space law has no merit in silicon law. Cyborgs are supposed to protect humans regardless of Antagonist status. This means protecting syndicates from the crew and the wizards from the crew. When I asked the nicer of the two wizards to "Remove the CE" My intentions remained pure. I believed I could talk this wizard and non-harmfully remove the chief engineer from engineering. When I asked a wizard to remove the Chief Engineer, I attempted to prevent station damage and human harm. However, What I asked was never acted upon. I had broken Zero laws, Zero rules.
Admins, Should not set their own standards for notes. Admins should not be able to presume intention and note on based presumption. To my knowledge, notes should be based on fact, And leave nothing ambiguous or purposely leave out factual information that could explain intention to actions. This note is factually and materially incorrect. Vital information was left out of this note. This note is also very harsh and misleading; No rules were broken. No silicon laws were broken, No humans were directly harmed. In my opinion, this note has zero merit, and I am asking for permanent removal of it.
Character name: Jessica Sulivard
Ban type: Note
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 164373
Ban reason: After arguing with the CE over the SM setup, asked one of the wizards at least three times to "remove the CE". This was not acted upon by the wizard, but asking an antagonist whose entire gimmick is (usually) to harm humans to remove someone does not sit well for an ASIMOV lawset. No matter how many times I tried to explain this in ahelps, they refused to understand. Please be more careful when playing silicon. Advised to appeal in the forums if they truly think I am incorrect.
Your side of the story:
During the beginning of the shift, I began as B.E.A.N, C02 Engine Maker Exdroinare. 10~ Minutes into the shift. I hook up the line of C02 to the Fuel line to produce a pressure C02 Engine, I build a robust cooling system, and an Atmos tech turns on the emitters without the cooling system finished, SM delams to 70% And drops quickly. CE comes into the engine room and actively attempts to mess with pipes when I begin pumping c02 coolant into the SM. I call security to ask to remove the CE from engineering "he's sabotaging the engine," I shout over comms. After rustling with the CE, He threatens to kill me and tells me "you don't understand atmos". (As he empties the damn SM of c02 coolant like what?). I leave engineering to look for security as I see two wizards running around doing fireballs and stuff. With almost everyone nuggets or dead on the floor, I ask one of the only humans left alive on board; I ask the wizard to "remove the ce" because this wizard spoke to me and seemed kinda friendly despite the fact of human harm.
Why do you think you should be unbanned?:
For the record, The admin that had added this note left out the parts of me actively looking for security or even calling security to remove the Cheif engineer from engineering. "Remove the CE" is a very ambiguous quote that can be left subjective. However, In this case, I was attempting to remove a dangerous unknowledgeable Chief Engineer from blowing up a quarter of the station. The noting admin admitted to seeing my attempts to remove the Chief Engineer from engineering by calling security but left that portion out of the note, essentially ignoring them in my arugement.
Under Silicon law, Wizards are considered humans. Antagonist or not, space law has no merit in silicon law. Cyborgs are supposed to protect humans regardless of Antagonist status. This means protecting syndicates from the crew and the wizards from the crew. When I asked the nicer of the two wizards to "Remove the CE" My intentions remained pure. I believed I could talk this wizard and non-harmfully remove the chief engineer from engineering. When I asked a wizard to remove the Chief Engineer, I attempted to prevent station damage and human harm. However, What I asked was never acted upon. I had broken Zero laws, Zero rules.
Admins, Should not set their own standards for notes. Admins should not be able to presume intention and note on based presumption. To my knowledge, notes should be based on fact, And leave nothing ambiguous or purposely leave out factual information that could explain intention to actions. This note is factually and materially incorrect. Vital information was left out of this note. This note is also very harsh and misleading; No rules were broken. No silicon laws were broken, No humans were directly harmed. In my opinion, this note has zero merit, and I am asking for permanent removal of it.