[CoconutMage] ATHATH - Game Show Permaban
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:28 am
BYOND account: ATHATH
Twitch account: ath1909
Character name: literally didn't even get to play
Ban type: Discord AND game
Ban length: Permanent(!)
Ban reason: In the screenshot dump below.
Time ban was placed: In the screenshot dump below.
Server you were playing on when banned: literally didn't even get to play
Round ID in which ban was placed: Round ID, should be present in ban reason from server. Can be excluded if it cannot be found. Example: 101235
Your side of the story:
I woke up at around noon on Sunday, the day of the game show. After I went through my "morning" routine, I checked Discord for pings and noticed that I had been kicked from /tg/cord while I was asleep. I had no idea WHY I had been banned- the only clue I had was this single PM from CoconutMage that had been sent at 6:31 AM (my time) the previous night:
I soon after discovered that I had not just been kicked from /tg/cord, but also BANNED from it, for a crime that I was still completely unaware of. I sent CoconutMage some DMs to inquire as to what had happened:
Thanks to some contacts in Manuelcord (love y'all), I was able to find the official reason for my Discord ban:
Illuminating.
Those Manuelites also informed me that I had not only been banned from /tg/cord, but also from the SERVERS, only a few hours before the start of the game show, which I had secured a place in months earlier and had been very excited for participating in, as it would've played to my strengths and (hopefully) have been a chance to show off some of the countless bits of SS13 trivia knowledge that I've been collecting over the years.
I checked, and sure enough, I had been banned from the servers for 2 days. Thankfully, this ban reason was more clear, albeit still very odd:
To clarify what happened here:
While I was codediving the non-map file parts of the game show testmerge PR (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/59825), I noticed that the names of the PR's map files blatantly gave away the names and sequence of the game show's events. I posted about this in the #mapping-general channel on /tg/cord alongside a screenshot that contained 2-3 of the spoiling file names, similar to the one below (I'd post the original, but it looks like it's been deleted):
I then followed that up (in the same channel) with the posts contained in the following image and went to bed.
Note the time difference between my last post and the first response post.
After discovering that this was the ban reason, I continued my "conversation" with CoconutMage:
After not receiving any response from CoconutMage, I sent CitrusGender some relevant screenshots, informed them that I would not be able to attend the game show due to my ban (meaning that they could open up my reserved slot for someone else), and learned that they were "aware of the situation" (which meant that CoconutMage wasn't trying to secretly screw me over for personal reasons or anything like that, which was a relief):
Per CitrusGender's recommendation, I watched the Twitch stream of the event instead. After some minor salting near the start of the stream, I was able to settle down and enjoy it.
... Until partway through the setup for the second event (the mech building one), when I was timed out from the Twitch stream for an hour for a reason I was not informed of. I hadn't posted any of the ASCII amogus cock or ASCII booba stuff. I hadn't posted any spoilers about the lootbox contents for the battle royale event, and I actually couldn't post any spoilers for the mech building event- the mech building event didn't have any dedicated code for it outside of its map file, and I had only read the non-map files of the testmerge PR. All I had been doing was asking questions about the rules of the event ("can they build AIs to pilot their mechs?", "can they build multiple mechs?") and the event's map ("are the mechs behind that reinforced glass real? if so, could you teleport into that glass to reach those mechs?") and theorizing possible strategies ("yeah, savannah-ivanovs are probably the best mechs for this event", "could they lay BORIS shells around an area and then detonate them using a robotics console to inflict damage?") (quotations paraphrased). One of those questions even got a direct response from the people streaming the event- the mechs behind the reinforced glass were display versions and not real.
Needless to say, I was pretty fucking pissed about being fucked over with no explanation two times within the span of a few hours, but I couldn't really do anything about it, so I just salted in Manuelcord a bit and then watched the rest of the stream (being able to participate in chat again near the end).
Finally, over an hour after the stream and the game show had ended, I received my first PM from CoconutMage since their "howdy" PM (tbf, the more important game show stuff probably kept them very busy):
Now that I was finally able to properly talk to him, I asked CoconutMage about the time out from the Twitch stream, and his response was what can only be described as a :walter: moment:
And yes, that's a permaban from the game servers too.
Note the "UPDATE" section of the ban reason that wasn't present in the 2 day version of this ban.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't believe that I should have been banned for 2 days, let alone permanently. I posted that screenshot in #mapping-general to warn you about the possibility of people easily spoiling the event names/orders by just skimming over the PR, not to encourage people to spoil the upcoming events in #discussion-general or something.
If someone stumbles into #mapping-general the day before a game show that the mapping team has been working on is due to be released and is surprised that there are spoilers for that game show there, I honestly don't know what to tell them. Other people have posted far greater spoilers for the game show there without being reprimanded, such as mid-development screenshots of event maps, yet I'm supposed to be banned, kicked out of the game show, and told that my "actions are deterimental [sic] to the community" for posting 2-3 file names?
The "UPDATE" message at the end of the reasoning for the permanent version of my ban is incredibly misleading, and I believe that my ban being upgraded to a permaban was probably just a result of a miscommunication between CoconutMage and Domitius, with CoconutMage thinking that I had been spewing spoilers or telling people how to crash the server or something.
https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyLittlePou ... _bIFHx9h30
"I wanna see some thinkin' outside the box." -Domitius
I'd like to reiterate here that I don't codedive to "make the game less fun for people", I do it to make cool and memorable things happen, to improve the community's (and my own) understanding of the game, and to curb the spread of misinformation.
References of good conduct: None; it's been like a day since the game show.
Anything else we should know: The funny thing is, I think the Discord ban is more significant to me than the game ban, as I'm currently going through crippling :borgspin: withdrawal (and I don't wanna be separated from my friends there).
Twitch account: ath1909
Character name: literally didn't even get to play
Ban type: Discord AND game
Ban length: Permanent(!)
Ban reason: In the screenshot dump below.
Time ban was placed: In the screenshot dump below.
Server you were playing on when banned: literally didn't even get to play
Round ID in which ban was placed: Round ID, should be present in ban reason from server. Can be excluded if it cannot be found. Example: 101235
Your side of the story:
I woke up at around noon on Sunday, the day of the game show. After I went through my "morning" routine, I checked Discord for pings and noticed that I had been kicked from /tg/cord while I was asleep. I had no idea WHY I had been banned- the only clue I had was this single PM from CoconutMage that had been sent at 6:31 AM (my time) the previous night:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Those Manuelites also informed me that I had not only been banned from /tg/cord, but also from the SERVERS, only a few hours before the start of the game show, which I had secured a place in months earlier and had been very excited for participating in, as it would've played to my strengths and (hopefully) have been a chance to show off some of the countless bits of SS13 trivia knowledge that I've been collecting over the years.
I checked, and sure enough, I had been banned from the servers for 2 days. Thankfully, this ban reason was more clear, albeit still very odd:
Spoiler:
While I was codediving the non-map file parts of the game show testmerge PR (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/59825), I noticed that the names of the PR's map files blatantly gave away the names and sequence of the game show's events. I posted about this in the #mapping-general channel on /tg/cord alongside a screenshot that contained 2-3 of the spoiling file names, similar to the one below (I'd post the original, but it looks like it's been deleted):
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
After discovering that this was the ban reason, I continued my "conversation" with CoconutMage:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
... Until partway through the setup for the second event (the mech building one), when I was timed out from the Twitch stream for an hour for a reason I was not informed of. I hadn't posted any of the ASCII amogus cock or ASCII booba stuff. I hadn't posted any spoilers about the lootbox contents for the battle royale event, and I actually couldn't post any spoilers for the mech building event- the mech building event didn't have any dedicated code for it outside of its map file, and I had only read the non-map files of the testmerge PR. All I had been doing was asking questions about the rules of the event ("can they build AIs to pilot their mechs?", "can they build multiple mechs?") and the event's map ("are the mechs behind that reinforced glass real? if so, could you teleport into that glass to reach those mechs?") and theorizing possible strategies ("yeah, savannah-ivanovs are probably the best mechs for this event", "could they lay BORIS shells around an area and then detonate them using a robotics console to inflict damage?") (quotations paraphrased). One of those questions even got a direct response from the people streaming the event- the mechs behind the reinforced glass were display versions and not real.
Needless to say, I was pretty fucking pissed about being fucked over with no explanation two times within the span of a few hours, but I couldn't really do anything about it, so I just salted in Manuelcord a bit and then watched the rest of the stream (being able to participate in chat again near the end).
Finally, over an hour after the stream and the game show had ended, I received my first PM from CoconutMage since their "howdy" PM (tbf, the more important game show stuff probably kept them very busy):
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't believe that I should have been banned for 2 days, let alone permanently. I posted that screenshot in #mapping-general to warn you about the possibility of people easily spoiling the event names/orders by just skimming over the PR, not to encourage people to spoil the upcoming events in #discussion-general or something.
If someone stumbles into #mapping-general the day before a game show that the mapping team has been working on is due to be released and is surprised that there are spoilers for that game show there, I honestly don't know what to tell them. Other people have posted far greater spoilers for the game show there without being reprimanded, such as mid-development screenshots of event maps, yet I'm supposed to be banned, kicked out of the game show, and told that my "actions are deterimental [sic] to the community" for posting 2-3 file names?
Spoiler:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyLittlePou ... _bIFHx9h30
"I wanna see some thinkin' outside the box." -Domitius
I'd like to reiterate here that I don't codedive to "make the game less fun for people", I do it to make cool and memorable things happen, to improve the community's (and my own) understanding of the game, and to curb the spread of misinformation.
Spoiler:
Anything else we should know: The funny thing is, I think the Discord ban is more significant to me than the game ban, as I'm currently going through crippling :borgspin: withdrawal (and I don't wanna be separated from my friends there).