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[pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:17 am
by pepsiisshit
BYOND account: BYOND account
Character name: i don't know it changes
Ban type: server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: it literally doesn't say, just says "alt of X" whenever i try to log in with either account
Time ban was placed: Try to get this from the server when you get the ban reason. If it was a note, the note has a timestamp. If it was a server ban, it will also have a timestamp. Both of these times are in UTC.
Server you were playing on when banned: i don't know
Round ID in which ban was placed: 165855
Your side of the story: this admin banned me for something in another round on another server when i got mad at him rejecting adminhelps.
Why you think you should be unbanned: the thing i got banned for is bullshit. there was nobody else online at the time. Everyone else had logged out. I logged in on another account for less than 5 minutes to walk around the station and then logged off (which i only did to see how it looked with no power anywhere, ghosts see light even in dark places). I did literally nothing while i was there, this is just an admin looking for an easy reason to permaban me when i've done essentially fucking nothing.
Anything else we should know: i got banned in the middle of a completely different round several hours later, right after having a dispute with this admin. it's clear that he wasn't banning me for what he claimed, he was banning me over him being upset during the actual round he banned me in.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:45 am
by Pepsiman

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:51 am
by pepsiisshit
what a constructive response that doesn't in any way prove my point about you just looking for a reason to permaban me.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:06 am
by Domitius
Permanent ban was applied on 2021-07-13 08:49:09 on Sybil by pepsiman0.

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Banned from the server permanently - played on a new alt (pizzapazzizza) after they got told to play on one account only, and just generally poor behaviour in ahelps and in game.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:08 am
by pepsiisshit
Domitius wrote:Permanent ban was applied on 2021-07-13 08:49:09 on Sybil by pepsiman0.

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Banned from the server permanently - played on a new alt (pizzapazzizza) after they got told to play on one account only, and just generally poor behaviour in ahelps and in game.
as i already said, i literally logged in for 5 minutes to walk around and see how the station looked with no power. Ghosts can't see the effect of all the lights being dark. I walked around the station then logged off. I'd already checked and seen that literally everybody else was no longer actually playing.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:24 am
by Pepsiman
If you didn't get the meaning of the image its: your appeal is denied. And I will not put any effort to read it in a meaningful way to even post a reply addressing the stuff you wrote.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:28 am
by pepsiisshit
always nice to see an admin unable to admit he did something because he was upset. makes perfect sense that an admin who bans for no reason is also allowed to just refuse to address the fact that he banned for no reason.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 am
by pepsiisshit
it's hilarious that this admin won't put half as much effort into responding to the ban appeal as he did searching for a reason to ban me when i didn't do anything wrong. a brief moment walking around an empty station when there's literally nobody else logged on isn't worth a permanent ban, but i guess that's what happens when an admin is mad.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:47 am
by kieth4
Here is the rule you broke, you were told to play on one account and didn't listen.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:49 am
by pepsiisshit
kieth4 wrote:Here is the rule you broke, you were told to play on one account and didn't listen.
i didn't play on the other account. i literally logged in to look at what the station looked like with the power out. i walked around, got an idea of what it looked like, then logged off and never logged back in. there was literally NOBODY else online. Nobody was harmed. I didn't interact with any person or object. I literally walked around a bit, satisfied my curiosity of what a station with no power looked like, then logged off.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:04 am
by pepsiisshit
alright, well, since the admin who places the ban is allowed to just ignore the ban appeal, i guess the only thing to do is just ignore the ban.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:11 am
by XivilaiAnaxes
pepsiisshit wrote:alright, well, since the admin who places the ban is allowed to just ignore the ban appeal, i guess the only thing to do is just ignore the ban.
lmfao you wait for the headmins to reply, you don't permaban yourself by saying you're going to ban evade you gronk

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:14 am
by pepsiisshit
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
pepsiisshit wrote:alright, well, since the admin who places the ban is allowed to just ignore the ban appeal, i guess the only thing to do is just ignore the ban.
lmfao you wait for the headmins to reply, you don't permaban yourself by saying you're going to ban evade you gronk
i didn't say i was going to ban evade, i just posted an admin report topic. not like it matters though, the person who's in the position to decide the appeal has already clearly made a big show of not reading the post. i don't expect any better from any of the other admins.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:39 pm
by Pepsiman
Since the perma ban reason was very short and had minimal details I am going to drop relevant information to the ban.

Logs and actions of the Iseeallthetime from the round they got banned. (165855)(https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/sybil/ ... 5/game.log, https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/sybil/ ... attack.log)
Spoiler:
they start their round as rd

[2021-07-13 08:21:54.260] GAME: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) Client Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has taken ownership of mob (/mob/living/carbon/human) (Research Director's Office (134,78,2))

then three and a half minutes later they try to demote someone for being paraplegic

[2021-07-13 08:25:19.584] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "oi" (Research Division (124,86,2))
[2021-07-13 08:25:22.135] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "get the cripple out" (Research Division (124,86,2))
[2021-07-13 08:25:30.141] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "no cripples in my science lab." (Toxins Mixing Lab (126,79,2))
[2021-07-13 08:25:39.799] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "go fix your legs or leave." (Toxins Mixing Lab (126,79,2))

then they still try to demote them for another 5 minutes while being in a conflict with multiple people but when the hos refuses to help them they go and destroy both of the r&d servers.

[2021-07-13 08:30:47.763] SAY: Jusuph/(Brian Blyant) "that isn't enough reason to demote" (Toxins Mixing Lab (125,79,2))
[2021-07-13 08:30:50.168] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "aight" (Toxins Mixing Lab (127,78,2))

(not pasting all of the logs since there are a lot)

[2021-07-13 08:31:20.035] ATTACK: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (Research Division Server Room (135,71,2))
[2021-07-13 08:31:20.987] ATTACK: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (Research Division Server Room (135,71,2))
[2021-07-13 08:31:21.899] ATTACK: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (Research Division Server Room (135,71,2))
[2021-07-13 08:31:22.832] ATTACK: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (Research Division Server Room (135,71,2))
[2021-07-13 08:31:23.732] ATTACK: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (Research Division Server Room (135,71,2))

which leads me to admin pming them.

[2021-07-13 08:33:19.468] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Pepsiman0/(Nilla Steele)->Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer): hello, why did you destroy the rd servers?
[2021-07-13 08:33:50.256] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer)->Pepsiman0/(Nilla Steele): because fuck security telling me i'm not allowed to demote someone when the demoting computer's in my fucking office.
[2021-07-13 08:34:58.182] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer)->Pepsiman0/(Nilla Steele): because the asshole in security wanted shit researched.
[2021-07-13 08:40:32.233] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Pepsiman0/(Nilla Steele)->Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer): does a ckey pizzapazzizza ring a bell to you?
[2021-07-13 08:42:07.357] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer): so this faggot brian blyant just attacked and cuffed me as people stripped me and took all my shit

this is where they create a new ticket without responding to my last admin pm so I reject it to show them that the previous one wasn't done, and before I re-open it to tell them that they need to respond to my last question they ahelp this:

[2021-07-13 08:42:31.969] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer): wow you're a faggot.

And that's where I just checked their notes and their alts again to make sure that its not me misreading things, and I perma them without even diving into their game logs since I saw them breaking the servers as a ghost, and originally the ahelp was about it. But even without knowing a lot of the info posted here (due to multiple reasons like me checking their notes or checking them on the database, dealing with other stuff, or just simply not seeing them talk in the chat) it was an easy decision for me to perma them for behaving absolutely awful, the usage of alt accounts was just a cherry on top.

And here are some more nasty shit (far from all of it) they said that I didn't catch:

[2021-07-13 08:43:17.704] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm just gonna meta your retarded asses next round" (Research Division (138,95,2))
[2021-07-13 08:43:23.710] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "since y'all are fucking retards" (Security Post - Research Division (134,97,2))
[2021-07-13 08:44:39.602] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "holy fuck you should actually kill yourselves in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,100,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:02.716] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "kill yourself" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:04.316] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:15.176] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like actually kill yourself" (Research Division (131,99,2))

About the alt that was mentioned in the ban. Iseeallthetime already had an alt banned (friendlyapple), and in that ban the admin told them to use a single account from now on. Then they used pizzapazzizza to join the game after they died and logged off(it took them around 2 minutes to join and they logged from a different ip, but the cid was the same as before) and play for a few minutes before logging off.
round id: 165845 (https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/basil/ ... 5/game.log)

[2021-07-13 05:49:28.222] ACCESS: Logout: Iseeallthetime/(Landon Hice)
[2021-07-13 05:51:34.269] ACCESS: Login: Pizzapazzizza
[2021-07-13 05:55:13.282] ACCESS: Logout: Pizzapazzizza/(Jocelyn Fuchs)

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:48 pm
by Cobby
pepsiisshit wrote:
kieth4 wrote:Here is the rule you broke, you were told to play on one account and didn't listen.
i didn't play on the other account. i literally logged in to look at what the station looked like with the power out. i walked around, got an idea of what it looked like, then logged off and never logged back in. there was literally NOBODY else online. Nobody was harmed. I didn't interact with any person or object. I literally walked around a bit, satisfied my curiosity of what a station with no power looked like, then logged off.
This is a semantics argument, joining the round is considered “playing” for the purposes of that rule.

Just use one account.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:51 pm
by Cobby
If you post logs post the source link as well please, it’s a requirement.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:07 am
by Vekter
This is a shitshow, I'm locking this until the headmins want to chime in on it.

Re: [pepsiman0] iseeallthetime - banned for logging in twice on a round with nobody else on

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:18 pm
by Jimmius
Continuing to multikey after being asked to stop is worth a perma-ban, and this appeal has not convinced any of us to consider giving you a second chance.

Headmin Votes:
Coconutwarrior97: Uphold.
Jimmius: Uphold.
Naloac: Uphold.
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