[Jaredfogle]TheGayRhinoceros
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:56 am
Account name: TheGayRhinoceros
In game name: Homes Hippo
Ban Type: perma all TG/ servers
Ban length: Perma
Ban reason: Ban baiting. Ahelped a security officer that executed him for "no reason", and only mentioned trying to get into the teleporter room and setting a vent to siphon. When looking through logs, had a flamethrower and told the security officer several times that he would kill him. Has prior history for lying in ahelps. This behavior is not acceptable.
Time of ban: 2021-07-17
Server banned on: Sybil
Server ID: 166101
My side of the story:
So, to start I don't remember lying in previous ahelps, I have a remark when I told a plasma golem to bomb sec as a non antag, and told him OOC how to do it, I told the admin I said to bomb sec jokingly, he didn't believe me but left me off with a warning. I do ahelp probably more than most though I dont usually do it to report a player as usually the conflicts I encounter don't usually need an ahelp. Like earlier in the round I ahelped "what is your favorite colour?" I should definitely stop using ahelps for this and I will definitely in the future, I have just found the Sybil admins to be super friendly and chill. In that round I had a flamethrower, I was atmos and got a the hardsuit so i figured I would capitalize on being fireproof, so I made a flamethrower for self defense, Yeah there are definitely better weapons for this but I didn't think much of it. I also told the sec off that arrested me that he was valid and as I though he would put me into perma brig that I would kill him. The sec off then sent the labor shuttle away went into space cuffed me to a chair went back in and called the labor shuttle back so that I would be gibbed. I ahelped as I thought that it was execive but that also as he was just a sec off that he did not have the authority to execute. In my ahelp I said "for no reason" this is not true he did have reason to brig me and execute me, The admin (Jaredfogle) attributed this to salt which is true and I appreciate that.
Why I should be unbanned: I was banned permanently for "ban baiting" I don't think think is fair because outside of the plasma golem incident I genuinely cannot remember lying to a TG/ station admin ever. the admin (Jaredfogle) claimed in the PM he sent me in game that I showed a pattern of lying to admins. If you consider this time lying then I would have lied twice. Twice does not show a pattern of lying, it shows that I am simply willing to do it. I also do not believe I lied. The admin mentions that I didn't mention the flamethrower or me threatening the sec off. Why I didn't mention these is that I didn't believe they mattered, for the flamethrower I had already admited to crimes so contraband wasn't much more, as well I didn't use the flamethrower throughout the entire round. And as to my threats to the sec off, I have previously made threats to sec as they arrest me with no issue and have seen others, I I thought that it wouldn't matter. As well more specific to he ban I haven't lied in the past in an attempt to get people banned. So this is also not a pattern of behavior. In conclusion I believe that my ban should be lifted because I believe my ban is unjustified because 1. I haven't lied to get other players banned in the past 2. Because I have only lied to an admin to an admin once in the past(and they didn't even believe the lie) and 3. because even in this case the only lie I told the admin was that the sec off had "no reason" to execute me without permittion of captain or warden, (exept my omission of the fact that I had a flamethrower and threatened to kill the sec off).
In game name: Homes Hippo
Ban Type: perma all TG/ servers
Ban length: Perma
Ban reason: Ban baiting. Ahelped a security officer that executed him for "no reason", and only mentioned trying to get into the teleporter room and setting a vent to siphon. When looking through logs, had a flamethrower and told the security officer several times that he would kill him. Has prior history for lying in ahelps. This behavior is not acceptable.
Time of ban: 2021-07-17
Server banned on: Sybil
Server ID: 166101
My side of the story:
So, to start I don't remember lying in previous ahelps, I have a remark when I told a plasma golem to bomb sec as a non antag, and told him OOC how to do it, I told the admin I said to bomb sec jokingly, he didn't believe me but left me off with a warning. I do ahelp probably more than most though I dont usually do it to report a player as usually the conflicts I encounter don't usually need an ahelp. Like earlier in the round I ahelped "what is your favorite colour?" I should definitely stop using ahelps for this and I will definitely in the future, I have just found the Sybil admins to be super friendly and chill. In that round I had a flamethrower, I was atmos and got a the hardsuit so i figured I would capitalize on being fireproof, so I made a flamethrower for self defense, Yeah there are definitely better weapons for this but I didn't think much of it. I also told the sec off that arrested me that he was valid and as I though he would put me into perma brig that I would kill him. The sec off then sent the labor shuttle away went into space cuffed me to a chair went back in and called the labor shuttle back so that I would be gibbed. I ahelped as I thought that it was execive but that also as he was just a sec off that he did not have the authority to execute. In my ahelp I said "for no reason" this is not true he did have reason to brig me and execute me, The admin (Jaredfogle) attributed this to salt which is true and I appreciate that.
Why I should be unbanned: I was banned permanently for "ban baiting" I don't think think is fair because outside of the plasma golem incident I genuinely cannot remember lying to a TG/ station admin ever. the admin (Jaredfogle) claimed in the PM he sent me in game that I showed a pattern of lying to admins. If you consider this time lying then I would have lied twice. Twice does not show a pattern of lying, it shows that I am simply willing to do it. I also do not believe I lied. The admin mentions that I didn't mention the flamethrower or me threatening the sec off. Why I didn't mention these is that I didn't believe they mattered, for the flamethrower I had already admited to crimes so contraband wasn't much more, as well I didn't use the flamethrower throughout the entire round. And as to my threats to the sec off, I have previously made threats to sec as they arrest me with no issue and have seen others, I I thought that it wouldn't matter. As well more specific to he ban I haven't lied in the past in an attempt to get people banned. So this is also not a pattern of behavior. In conclusion I believe that my ban should be lifted because I believe my ban is unjustified because 1. I haven't lied to get other players banned in the past 2. Because I have only lied to an admin to an admin once in the past(and they didn't even believe the lie) and 3. because even in this case the only lie I told the admin was that the sec off had "no reason" to execute me without permittion of captain or warden, (exept my omission of the fact that I had a flamethrower and threatened to kill the sec off).