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[Positive Entropy] Noodlecat - Traitor mad ban

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:54 am
by Noodlecat
BYOND account: Noodlecat
Character name: Pyronthus ?? (ethereal last names are hard to remember okay)
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Day
Ban reason: As a roboticist gibbed a traitor who hypnotized them with the command "you are a sentient lightbulb", round removing them. Considering you already have a note on the same round for over-escalation, I believe you should take a break.
Time ban was placed: 2021-07-26 04:23:45
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 166645
Your side of the story: Explain what happened in your own words.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I just chilling and making mechs as a roboticist come into robotics and see the mime and the traitor doing things, i ask them to leave and the traitor flashes me and force feeds me a pill, then flashes me again and gives me the "you are a sentient lightbulb" command, i (knowing that hypnoflashes are really dangerous and can be used to easily round remove eg,(turn off suit sensors and jump out of an airlock) i promptly attacked them with the mech and gibbed them, reported my hypnotizing to sec and moved on. i was then banned for "over-escalation", how is this over-escalation, i see someone with a dangerous weapon, the means to stop them, and they attacked me with it already and could kill me at any time with a kill yourself command.

Re: [Positive Entropy] Noodlecat - Traitor mad ban

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:56 am
by Imaginos
Hello! Thank you for posting your appeal.

Here's a few details regarding the altercations:

You were in robotics, and a posibrain was left there sitting, activated.
Zachary Hensha, notices it and decides to go into robotics.

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03:55:22	EMOTE	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) waves.	(147, 79, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:55:59	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "slap the shell with it"	(143, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:03	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "let me try"	(143, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:09	EMOTE	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) blinks.	(143, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:19	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "it, shouldnt be?"	(144, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
You then proceed to tell him to leave quite aggressively, but nothing too bad so far

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03:56:42	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "OUT"	(147, 78, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:44	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "NOW"	(147, 78, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:47	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "LEAVE"	(147, 78, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:51	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "take it easy"	(146, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:51	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "BEFORE I WIPE YOU OUT"	(147, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
Zachary, in turn, decides its a good opportunity to offer/feed you an anti-psychotic pill, to open up an opportunity for you to be hypnoflashed.

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03:56:56	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "have this to hcalm down"	(146, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:56:59	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "no"	(147, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:05	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "not you"	(148, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:08	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has shoved Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) (NEWHP: 81.7)	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:15	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "eat the normal pills"	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:36	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "that one is"	(144, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:37	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "broken"	(144, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:38	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has shoved Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) (NEWHP: 81.7)	(143, 78, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:40	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has shoved Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) (NEWHP: 81.7)	(144, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:41	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has shoved Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) (NEWHP: 81.7)	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
You then escalate in attempting to flash him, but later, he successfully manages to hypnotize you, giving you one directive: "You are a sentient lightbulb."

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03:57:43	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has flashed(targeted) Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with the flash (NEWHP: 81.7)	(144, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:51	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has flashed(targeted) Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)	(143, 78, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:53	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has grabbed Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)	(145, 77, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:54	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has flashed(targeted) Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:57:57	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "STOP"	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:58:00	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has transferred reagents (no reagents) from the antipsychotic pill (5u) to [biological battery]	(145, 75, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:58:00	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "The unrobust ones just used to keel over and die, you'd hear them going down behind you." FORCED by /datum/reagent/impurity/rosenol	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:58:05	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "YOU ASS"	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:58:09	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "I WILL MURDER YOU"	(145, 76, 2)	Robotics Lab
03:58:19	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has attacked Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with mounted gravitational catapult (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77.9)	(143, 90, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:19	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has hypno-flashed(targeted) Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)	(144, 90, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:20	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "you are a sentient light bulb."	(144, 90, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:21	GAME	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) was hypnotized with the phrase 'You are a sentient light bulb.'.
When someone is hypnotized, its generally considered good faith to interpret the command to the best of your ability, and make for an interesting gimmick! The opportunity to be given such a command was ripe for a lot of comedic roleplay, as you could've pretended to be a lightbulb, illuminating places since you're an ethereal, and occasionally buzzing. You, however, instead chose to do this:
Spoiler:

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03:58:22	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "AH"	(142, 90, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:32	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "LIGHTBULBS BURN"	(141, 90, 2)	Research Division
03:58:34	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "YES"	(148, 90, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:45	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "GOTTA BLAST"	(147, 95, 2)	Research and Development
03:58:59	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "THROW ME OVER"	(138, 102, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
03:59:02	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has climbed onto [titanium table]	(139, 102, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
03:59:04	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has attacked Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with the �Clarke (COMBAT MODE: 1 (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77.9)	(138, 101, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
03:59:09	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "HE BAD"	(138, 100, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
03:59:33	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 52.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:33	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "DAMN YOU REV"	(165, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:34	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:35	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 32.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:36	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "THAT IS"	(165, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:36	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 22.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:36	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 12.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:37	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 2.9)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:37	SAY	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) "VERY FLIMSY"	(165, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:38	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -7.1)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:39	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -17.1)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:39	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -38.6)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:40	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -48.6)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:41	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -70.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:42	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -80.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:42	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -90.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:42	ATTACK	Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) has died (BRUTE: 143, BURN: 50, TOX: 2.4, OXY: 17.3333, CLONE: 0)	(165, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:43	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:44	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "LIGHTBULBS BURN"	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:44	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -110.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:45	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -120.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:45	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -130.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:46	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -140.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:47	ATTACK	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) has drilled Carshalash/(Zachary Hensha) with exosuit drill Combat mode: On)(DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -150.2)	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
03:59:48	SAY	Noodlecat/(Pyronthus CD) "JACKASS"	(166, 74, 2)	Morgue
Instead of taking the opportunity to spice up the scenario, and make for an interesting gimmick, you opted to completely disregard your command other than randomly spouting "LIGHTBULBS BURN", and proceeded to gib Zachary Hensha with an exosuit drill. Not only is this in extremely bad faith, but you've also avoided interacting with anyone in any meaningful or fun way. Round removing someone for hypnotizing you with a joke, is not acceptable behavior. Its not fun to do, to anyone, for that matter.

This is not to mention that earlier in the round, you've already been noted for over-escalating already:

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[2021-07-26 03:00:56 | note by mrmelbert]
Purposefully stabbed someone's brain with a screwdriver who asked to be borged, rendering it unusable until it was repaired with mannitol. Afterwards, just left the destroyed brain on the desk of chemistry unsupervised. Did this because the brain owner tied their shoelaces together once. --- Has a history of over-escalation - warned to tread lighter grounds or face increasing server bans for over-escalating often.
As such, the appeal is denied. You're free to take it up with head admins, however, if you believe its unjust.

Re: [Positive Entropy] Noodlecat - Traitor mad ban

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:20 am
by Vekter
I feel like it's worth noting that you've accrued a lot of notes given your short playtime here. You really should treat this as an opportunity to improve and work on how you handle issues in-game as continued behavior like this will result in you being removed from the server.