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Milthy
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Banned for false reasons

Post by Milthy » #614639

[/b] BYOND account: Milthy
Character name: Hudson Jett
Round ID: 168358
Ban ID: 56124
Admin: Knira
Ban Date: 8-24-21
Character name at time of ban: Hudson Jett
Ban type: IC
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Violating rule 8 twice and showing a book about rape and necrophilia saying it was moth rights.

I never read the book. A borg gave me it in my HOP's office, I liked the moths, so I gave it to 'em cause the title said something about moths. I never knew what it was. To be honest, I did suck at escalation, so I believe a ban of like 3 days or something would be smart, but I never made that book, nor read it. I even was confused when I was accused of it thinking like she was trying to get me in trouble. I love TG-Station, I love the admins, y'all made me into gondola and are super fun and active. I would NEVER want to get banned here, I love it so much. Please, consider a temp ban instead, because I never wrote that book.
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Re: Banned for false reasons

Post by Mothblocks » #614646

Note that while the round ID the ban was placed on was 168358, the round they got banned for was 168357.
Shaps-cloud wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
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Re: Banned for false reasons

Post by Mothblocks » #614647

That being said, there's inconsistencies in your story. Coming from the logs for that round, you say explicitly:
[2021-08-24 02:06:45.062] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "I read the book." (Bar (139,129,2))
[2021-08-24 02:06:49.343] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "I really understand." (Bar (139,129,2))
[2021-08-24 02:07:12.150] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "I get the civil rights thing, moths. More power to you." (Bar (140,129,2))
...despite saying in your appeal "I never knew what it was."

You repeat this again later on, with the section in reference being pointed out directly to you:
[2021-08-24 02:30:34.874] SAY: AIIA/(Nar Nar) "There was a certain.. odd.. section." (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:39.477] SAY: AIIA/(Nar Nar) "In that book." (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:41.824] SAY: AIIA/(Nar Nar) "Near the bottom." (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:43.184] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "About?" (Medbay Treatment Center (86,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:51.879] SAY: AIIA/(Nar Nar) "Depicting a Moth being sexually assaulted." (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:54.772] SAY: AIIA/(Nar Nar) "And YOU wrote this?" (Medbay Treatment Center (84,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:56.256] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Being the syndicate." (Medbay Treatment Center (86,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:30:58.825] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Did you not read it?" (Medbay Treatment Center (86,101,2))
After being confronted with this, very clearly now "knowing what it was" and that it wasn't just "something about moths", you lean harder into it:
[2021-08-24 02:32:33.893] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Yeah." (Medbay Treatment Center (86,101,2))
[2021-08-24 02:32:39.469] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "It was my way of flirtin'." (Medbay Treatment Center (86,101,2))

[2021-08-24 02:33:23.098] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "I try to flirt and I get hurt." (Medbay Central (91,104,2))

[2021-08-24 02:37:08.450] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Ay Nar Nar, baby!" (Escape Pod One (149,184,2))
[2021-08-24 02:37:11.926] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Welcome!" (Recreation Area (146,182,2))
[2021-08-24 02:37:21.058] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Nar Nar, sweetheart, save me will ya?" (Locker Room (138,151,2))
[2021-08-24 02:37:36.446] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "All the people fighting ovah little old me?" (Central Primary Hallway (125,114,2))
[2021-08-24 02:37:47.272] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Nar Nar, as beautiful as yestaday." (Aft Primary Hallway (109,109,2))
[2021-08-24 02:37:53.499] SAY: Milthy/(Hudson Jett) "Love ya toots." (Aft Primary Hallway (107,94,2))
Shaps-cloud wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
Head Coder of /tg/station, hi!

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Re: Banned for false reasons

Post by Knira » #614648

After reading your appeal, thankfully Mothblocks comes in and exposes the contradictions about not knowing what was in the book and just because you didn't make it doesn't change what you proceed to do next with it and even if you didn't know the contents of the book the way you reacted when confronted with it and used it as a way of flirting is pretty creepy. So I'm going to decline this appeal.
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