I have completed a full investigation into this matter. I am going into far more exhaustive detail than would ordinarily be necessary for a situation like this since I was not the banning admin, do not have the full context and I am only working from the logs, ticket history and appeal.
Logs relied upon:
https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/syb ... 3/game.txt
https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/syb ... attack.txt
All logs quoted below are filtered to only include logs involving your ckey.
At 20:41:03 you get shot by a meteor and die.
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[2022-01-16 20:41:03.430] ATTACK: Grobelon/(Rick Hick) has shot InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) with the meteor (NEWHP: 100) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (149,99,2))
[2022-01-16 20:41:03.469] EMOTE: InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless... (Aft Central Primary Hallway (148,99,2))
[2022-01-16 20:41:03.475] ATTACK: InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) has died (BRUTE: 252.5, BURN: 0, TOX: 0, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (148,99,2))
[2022-01-16 20:41:03.526] ACCESS: Mob Login: InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2022-01-16 20:41:03.550] GAME: InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) Client InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) has taken ownership of mob Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker(/mob/dead/observer) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (148,99,2))
Two minutes later at 20:43:01 you spawn in at the Charlie Station ghost ruin, get electrocuted in the engineering section by some power cables and head off into space.
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[2022-01-16 20:43:01.812] GAME: InfernusGamer/(Lucca 'Fisnor' Skywalker) became a a scientist
[2022-01-16 20:43:01.826] ACCESS: Mob Login: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
[2022-01-16 20:43:01.835] GAME: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) Client infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has taken ownership of mob Stephen Hussain(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Charlie Station Main Corridor (153,69,4))
[2022-01-16 20:43:23.603] ATTACK: [power cable] has electrocuted infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) (NEWHP: 100) (Charlie Station Engineering (144,75,4))
[2022-01-16 20:43:24.424] ATTACK: [power cable] has electrocuted infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) (NEWHP: 100) (Charlie Station Engineering (145,73,4))
[2022-01-16 20:44:55.012] EMOTE: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) gasps! (Abandoned Zoo (71,70,4))
The next earliest log of you on the station is at 20:48:06 roughly 5 minutes after spawning in as a ghost role on Charlie Station.
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[2022-01-16 20:48:06.716] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has attacked [window] with the iron cleric mace (Theater (138,151,2))
Soon after that at 20:48:21 you're already using your former life's knowledge to hunt down the meteor gun
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[2022-01-16 20:48:21.849] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "hey" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (135,139,2))
[2022-01-16 20:48:27.453] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "jani" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (135,128,2))
[2022-01-16 20:48:31.091] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "where's" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (135,122,2))
[2022-01-16 20:48:33.081] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "meteor gun" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (135,122,2))
One and a half minutes later at 20:50:00 you shoot some people with a laser
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[2022-01-16 20:50:00.376] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (143,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:00.777] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at Conk444/(Dave Royd) with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (NEWHP: 7.1) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (143,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:01.060] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot Conk444/(Dave Royd) with the laser (NEWHP: 7.1) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (145,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:01.398] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at Conk444/(Dave Royd) with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (NEWHP: -12.9) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (146,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:01.558] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot Conk444/(Dave Royd) with the laser (NEWHP: -12.9) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (146,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:02.561] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [Aft Primary Hallway] with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (145,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:03.019] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (145,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:07.416] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (140,101,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:07.814] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at DerpiestBruh/(Enrique Wolff) with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (NEWHP: 11.3) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (140,101,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:07.829] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot DerpiestBruh/(Enrique Wolff) with the laser (NEWHP: 11.3) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (140,101,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:08.232] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot DerpiestBruh/(Enrique Wolff) with the laser (NEWHP: -2.7) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (140,101,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:08.333] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (140,101,2))
Somewhere between this and 20:50:48 you manage to acquire the meteor gun. You then go on a little quest to kill the AI with it, succeeding.
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[2022-01-16 20:50:48.822] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (141,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:50.849] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "HOLY" (Aft Central Primary Hallway (141,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:52.493] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [shard] with the meteor from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (141,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:55.053] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "THE FUCK" (Aft Central Primary Hallway (141,98,2))
[2022-01-16 20:50:59.719] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (141,104,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:07.655] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (134,116,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:14.144] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Command Hallway (Command Hallway (142,116,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:17.981] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Aft Central Primary Hallway (Aft Central Primary Hallway (135,113,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:22.474] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has attacked [firelock] with the meteor gun (Aft Central Primary Hallway (135,107,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:31.902] EMOTE: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) gasps! (EVA Storage (142,111,2))
[2022-01-16 20:51:55.707] ATTACK: [Starboard Auxiliary Hallway] has electrocuted infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) (NEWHP: 30.2) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (172,114,2))
[2022-01-16 20:52:16.800] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has attacked [tinted window] with the pocket crowbar (Aft Central Primary Hallway (184,114,2))
... [SNIP SELF HEALING] ...
[2022-01-16 20:54:12.175] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "CAN I KILL AI?" (Recreational Holodeck (225,103,2))
[2022-01-16 20:54:16.349] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [�space] with the meteor from Recreation Area (Recreation Area (232,103,2))
[2022-01-16 20:54:17.517] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [�space] with the meteor from Recreation Area (Recreation Area (232,103,2))
[2022-01-16 20:54:18.801] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [grille] with the meteor from Recreation Area (Recreation Area (232,103,2))
[2022-01-16 20:55:44.174] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,153,2))
[2022-01-16 20:55:44.984] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,153,2))
[2022-01-16 20:55:46.281] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced window] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,153,2))
[2022-01-16 20:55:51.575] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,152,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:00.404] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [light fixture] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,152,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:05.011] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "HELLO AI" (Space (33,152,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:10.868] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,151,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:18.018] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced girder] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,151,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:25.490] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "BECAUSE I'M GOD BOYFRIEND" (Space (33,151,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:26.077] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [plating] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,151,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:33.689] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced girder] with the meteor from Space (Space (33,151,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:47.288] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the meteor from AI Satellite Exterior (AI Satellite Exterior (33,150,2))
[2022-01-16 20:56:52.067] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [power storage unit] with the meteor from AI Satellite Exterior (AI Satellite Exterior (33,149,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:01.023] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [machine frame] with the meteor from AI Satellite Exterior (AI Satellite Exterior (33,148,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:06.482] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "HELLO AUI" (AI Satellite Exterior (32,148,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:08.409] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "AI" (AI Satellite Exterior (32,148,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:12.152] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from AI Satellite Exterior (AI Satellite Exterior (33,147,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:19.191] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [AI Core Shutters] with the meteor from AI Chamber (AI Chamber (33,146,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:27.023] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [grille] with the meteor from AI Chamber (AI Chamber (33,146,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:31.765] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "LAST WORDS?" (AI Chamber (33,146,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:36.104] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (37,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:36.107] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (29,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:44.754] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from AI Chamber (AI Chamber (33,145,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:44.805] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (37,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:44.853] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (29,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:45.123] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot KingPhilipIII/(VEGA) with the meteor (NEWHP: 9) (AI Chamber (33,145,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:46.487] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (37,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:46.538] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (29,143,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:46.734] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [floor] with the meteor from AI Chamber (AI Chamber (33,145,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:47.176] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has shot KingPhilipIII/(VEGA) with the meteor (NEWHP: -100) (AI Chamber (33,145,2))
[2022-01-16 20:57:51.144] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "AI NEUTRALIZED" (AI Satellite Exterior (33,147,2))
[2022-01-16 20:58:06.909] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "IT WAS BAD" (Space (65,133,2))
[2022-01-16 20:58:09.947] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "SHOCKING DOORS" (Space (67,131,2))
This attracts the attention of Knira who checks your player panel at 20:58:24 before bwoinking you at 20:59:13.
During this, nothing much interesting happens except conversation until you are eventually banned from the server at 21:05:48.
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[2022-01-16 20:58:24.670] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "also, skeletons can be killed?" (Space (72,104,2))
[2022-01-16 20:58:57.327] ADMIN: Knira/(Domo D. Gato) checked the individual player panel for infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain).
[2022-01-16 20:58:57.604] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "already did" (Space (123,43,2))
[2022-01-16 20:59:43.810] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "skeletons are bad or what?" (Space (168,67,2))
[2022-01-16 20:59:51.019] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "i didn't saw no one" (Space (177,63,2))
[2022-01-16 21:01:24.203] ADMIN: Knira/(Domo D. Gato) checked the individual player panel for infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain).
[2022-01-16 21:01:35.702] ADMIN: Knira/(Domo D. Gato) checked the individual player panel for infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain).
[2022-01-16 21:02:00.021] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "is ert here?" (Departure Lounge (154,55,2))
[2022-01-16 21:02:25.982] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "ert here?" (Departure Lounge (152,61,2))
[2022-01-16 21:02:52.800] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "hello?" (Departure Lounge (150,61,2))
[2022-01-16 21:03:12.669] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "what" (Departure Lounge (151,56,2))
[2022-01-16 21:03:17.420] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "nightmare bad?" (Departure Lounge (153,55,2))
[2022-01-16 21:04:51.936] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "hey" (Space (165,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:04:52.495] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "sir" (Space (165,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:04:54.493] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "ert here?" (Space (165,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:06.000] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "hey" (Space (169,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:07.337] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "sir" (Space (169,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:12.340] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "ert is here?" (Space (172,67,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:20.656] ATTACK: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) has fired at [�space] with the meteor from Space (Space (161,52,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:24.815] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "clown" (Space (159,49,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:25.534] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "sir" (Space (159,49,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:28.845] SAY: infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) "ert is here?" (Space (158,49,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:47.361] ATTACK: Cheesinator/(Commander Christopher) has shot infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the laser (NEWHP: 100) (Departure Lounge (153,51,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:48.351] ATTACK: Cheesinator/(Commander Christopher) has shot infernusgamer/(Stephen Hussain) with the laser (NEWHP: 80) (Departure Lounge (152,51,2))
[2022-01-16 21:05:48.495] ACCESS: Logout: InfernusGamer/(Stephen Hussain)
From Ticket
#6 during round
176713 on
Sybil
Ticket opened at
2022-01-16 20:59:13 by
knira
Log:
20:59:13:
Ticket Opened by-knira: Hey, when you have the chance can I ask a question?
20:59:22:
Reply from-infernusgamer: ?
20:59:50:
Reply from-knira: Are you perhaps from charile station?
21:00:26:
Reply from-infernusgamer: i died at 6-8 min because of the meteor gun admin chaos and crew ignored my body
21:00:44:
Reply from-knira: So you used metainfo to come back into the station and got the meteor gun and killed the AI?
21:01:05:
Reply from-infernusgamer: i just got jetpack and travelled tought space, then i got here
21:01:21:
Reply from-infernusgamer: i just killed ai because she started saying that she will kill crew and then started shocking doors
21:01:40:
Reply from-infernusgamer: i almost got crited by the door
21:03:25:
Reply from-knira: I'm not a really big fan of you going into a ghost role as soon as you die just to get back to the station by "coindience"
21:04:01:
Reply from-infernusgamer: and i'm not big fan of giving antag skeletons admin weapons
21:04:25:
Reply from-infernusgamer: causing mass early round murdering
21:05:37: Knira/(Domo D. Gato) has created a temporary 1 week role ban from 8 roles for InfernusGamer.
21:05:48: Knira/(Domo D. Gato) has created a temporary 2 days server ban for InfernusGamer.
21:05:49: Resolved by Knira
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This ticket was generated by Statbus v.0.13.3
During the ticket you seemed to show no respect or regard for the server rules.
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
Using knowledge from any of your former lives as a ghost role breaks Server Rule 2.
Players dying for reasons out of their control happens so often that it has an entry under Server Rule 10.
I believe from the logs, the ticket and your reasons given in this appeal that you absolutely had no intent of playing your ghost role properly. In your own words:
InfernusGamer wrote:i though it was ok joining as an Charlie Station Crewmember to go back to station and act as an common crewmember
You are not new to our servers. You have participated in over 500 rounds. At that point players are expected to know better and understand how our servers work, ghost roles work and how our rules work. Leniency for not knowing the rules is usually only given to players who are genuinely new and/or didn't break the rules in bad faith. I feel neither of these apply here.
In addition, you do not have the best note or ban history.
While there is a gap of many months since your latest batch of notes, you weren't actually playing on our servers during that gap. Your most recent issues are a note for being irresponsible with TTVs on 2021-12-17 and a 3-day server ban for exercising poor judgement and poor restraint with detonating a TTV to try and (unsuccessfully) kill a space dragon 4 hours after that note.
Chart of your recent playtime relied on from Scrubby:
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/InfernusGamer
Putting all these factors together, I feel a ban was justified and would have also issued some form of ban based on the logs and ticket.
Having established this, I will now tie your ban length to your actions, while also considering your history on our servers.
Last month you were banned for 3 days for poor decision with TTVs which led to you breaking the rules and killing one person in doing so.
You have once again exercised poor decision making that led to you breaking the rules.
As part of breaking these rules, you killed the AI. Whether the kill was just or not is irrelevant, since being in that position in the first place was because of a rule break. From Rule 1 Precedents on the rules page: "Each unjustified kill is normally met with one 24 hour ban."
I believe the 2 day server ban was just and proportionate for taking a ghost role, going back to the station, using knowledge from your past life to metagame and then killing the AI as a direct result of this rule break. This portion of your ban will be upheld.
When players misuse ghost roles, ghost role bans often follow. Role bans tend to be longer in duration because they do not prevent players actually playing the game in general, just the specific roles banned. Role bans tend to start at a week's duration due to this - They can always be less or more, as long as it's justified.
I believe that a week ghost role ban was fully justified given your actions in the shift, attitude in the tickets and reasons given in this appeal. This portion of your ban will be upheld.
I also feel the note attached to the ban fairly represents the facts of why you were banned:
Admitted to using a ghost role to get back into the station after being killed to go for an admin event weapon and get involved with station affairs.
I feel it is neither unfair nor misleading. A player admitting something in a ticket tends to be positive. It indicates the player admitted to whatever it is they did rather than force a lengthy investigation, which usually suggests a player approaching the ticket in good faith. I don't actually believe you admitted to it in the ticket, however I will not second guess Knira on their interpretation of what you said.
I believe the wording of your ban reason is both fair and paints you in a better picture than I feel the reality suggests. The reason will be upheld.
For all the reasons above, I am fully rejecting this appeal.
As with all appeals, you are free to escalate this up to the headmins for a final opinion.
If you don't elect to do this, your appeal will be fully closed within the next few days.