[Striders13] Eternius Lament - overescalation ban
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:07 pm
BYOND account: onjec
Character name: Eternius Lament
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: The ban reason is: Overescalation. As a non-antagonist, had their PDA and ID confiscated because they were assumed to be traitor, when a secoff refused to hand over the ID they stunned them with a baton and killed them. Stunning and getting your ID back from officer would've been fine, but finishing them off when they were already in a stam crit is not good. 1 day ban due to it being a repeat offense.
Time ban was placed: 2022-04-28 19:10:04
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 182292
Your side of the story: I was arrested and searched in cargo by two security officers for possesion of a unique firearm "Chekov's Gun" usualy otherwise unacessable from an Away mission, during search the officers found the Hand teleporter which i previously used to efficiently gather crates and fuel tanks for cargo as cargo technician, for these two reasons the officers decided to drag me handcuffed through maint in search of further evidence against me, this search was propagated by discovery of suicided body of a miner of whose murder i was blamed for despide the corpse having the "commited suicide" message visible when examined, while i argued this the officers ignored me and dragged me through more maintenance and through the mining base on lavaland, on the mining shuttle i was flashed, stun batoned and pepper sprayed so the security could uncuff and recuff me, after arriving in brig i was put in a cell with arrest reason of possesion of contraband, the two security officers took everything except for my clothing and kept it for them selfs, one took my firearm and other taking the hand teleporter and my PDA with ID as he has stated he had lost his own, i was also blamed for possession of telebaton which i never previously seen nor had this entire round, i did try to resist imprisonment and to reason with the warden and later with the HOS but i was either ignored or refused by both of them, while one of the officers kept verbaly harrasing me in my cell, after release i demanded at least return of my PDA and ID card which i was refused and told by the officer who was currently wearing my PDA and ID that i should get a new one from the HOP office, which was closed and in lockdown the entire shift, and i forcefully removed from brig with nothing but my clothes, i spoke with the QM since he was my superior and i couldnt perform my duty anymore due to lack of ID with cargo access who suggested to resolve the matter diplomaticaly, and he managed to get the security officer with my ID to come to cargo to talk but this only resulted in me being blamed for the murder of the suicided miner again after which the security officer left again, i tried to persude the officer multiple times on the hallway but I was always refused belligerently, after one such encounter the security officer decided to attack me with chainsaw despite having multiple non lethal weapons (stun baton, telebaton, pepperspray, flash and disabler) after telling me he wont be returning my belongings, which i took as a reason to escalate the conflict further first non lethaly with bola and stun baton but since the officer continued using the lethal chainsaw i escalated to lethals as well ultimately killing the officer and strip, unfortunately i was interupted by the CE to which i procceed to take the stripped gear and run into hiding, when i returned to the body with the intention to at least drag the corpse to medbay i was again interupted, this time by ahelp concerning matters of this conflict.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe this ban is unfair due to the claim that the reason for my arrest and taking of my PDA and ID was due to security assuming I was traitor which never happened and and only reason for my arrest ever stated was officers belief i dont need this gear and that they have better use for it themselves and because i believe that my engagement with lethal weaponry on someone who started the conflict with lethal weaponry was adequate despite them being a security officer
Anything else we should know: before the confrontation I did consult multiple other players, notably the quartermaster, and all of them agreed with me on the security being unreasonable, which while not being good argument for the escalation in the fight itself it at least validates my behaviour before hand.
Character name: Eternius Lament
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: The ban reason is: Overescalation. As a non-antagonist, had their PDA and ID confiscated because they were assumed to be traitor, when a secoff refused to hand over the ID they stunned them with a baton and killed them. Stunning and getting your ID back from officer would've been fine, but finishing them off when they were already in a stam crit is not good. 1 day ban due to it being a repeat offense.
Time ban was placed: 2022-04-28 19:10:04
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 182292
Your side of the story: I was arrested and searched in cargo by two security officers for possesion of a unique firearm "Chekov's Gun" usualy otherwise unacessable from an Away mission, during search the officers found the Hand teleporter which i previously used to efficiently gather crates and fuel tanks for cargo as cargo technician, for these two reasons the officers decided to drag me handcuffed through maint in search of further evidence against me, this search was propagated by discovery of suicided body of a miner of whose murder i was blamed for despide the corpse having the "commited suicide" message visible when examined, while i argued this the officers ignored me and dragged me through more maintenance and through the mining base on lavaland, on the mining shuttle i was flashed, stun batoned and pepper sprayed so the security could uncuff and recuff me, after arriving in brig i was put in a cell with arrest reason of possesion of contraband, the two security officers took everything except for my clothing and kept it for them selfs, one took my firearm and other taking the hand teleporter and my PDA with ID as he has stated he had lost his own, i was also blamed for possession of telebaton which i never previously seen nor had this entire round, i did try to resist imprisonment and to reason with the warden and later with the HOS but i was either ignored or refused by both of them, while one of the officers kept verbaly harrasing me in my cell, after release i demanded at least return of my PDA and ID card which i was refused and told by the officer who was currently wearing my PDA and ID that i should get a new one from the HOP office, which was closed and in lockdown the entire shift, and i forcefully removed from brig with nothing but my clothes, i spoke with the QM since he was my superior and i couldnt perform my duty anymore due to lack of ID with cargo access who suggested to resolve the matter diplomaticaly, and he managed to get the security officer with my ID to come to cargo to talk but this only resulted in me being blamed for the murder of the suicided miner again after which the security officer left again, i tried to persude the officer multiple times on the hallway but I was always refused belligerently, after one such encounter the security officer decided to attack me with chainsaw despite having multiple non lethal weapons (stun baton, telebaton, pepperspray, flash and disabler) after telling me he wont be returning my belongings, which i took as a reason to escalate the conflict further first non lethaly with bola and stun baton but since the officer continued using the lethal chainsaw i escalated to lethals as well ultimately killing the officer and strip, unfortunately i was interupted by the CE to which i procceed to take the stripped gear and run into hiding, when i returned to the body with the intention to at least drag the corpse to medbay i was again interupted, this time by ahelp concerning matters of this conflict.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe this ban is unfair due to the claim that the reason for my arrest and taking of my PDA and ID was due to security assuming I was traitor which never happened and and only reason for my arrest ever stated was officers belief i dont need this gear and that they have better use for it themselves and because i believe that my engagement with lethal weaponry on someone who started the conflict with lethal weaponry was adequate despite them being a security officer
Anything else we should know: before the confrontation I did consult multiple other players, notably the quartermaster, and all of them agreed with me on the security being unreasonable, which while not being good argument for the escalation in the fight itself it at least validates my behaviour before hand.