[Lulufren] Metastation - Devin Danny Plankchest ban appeal
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:23 pm
Note; Please do not misinterperet this as a means of myself trying to shift the blame of the matter, put the admin at fault, or to demonstrate that some other variable was at play here. This is a appeal that I am posting only for the sole purpose of getting my ban shortened/removed as I believe myself had reasonable cause.
BYOND account: medeelel18
Character name: Devin Plankchest (or) Mikhail Tolstykh (I cannot remember, I use both characters at random with little attention to the detail)
Ban type: Server ban
Ban length: Temporary, 5 days
Ban reason: "As a non-antagonist bartender with an active jobban from security, acquired healing items and riot armor before shooting 3 different crew members on the assumtion that they were antagonists or acting aggressively. Validhunting with the bartender shotgun is not an appropriate response to being jobbanned from security, and this is not a deathmatch server. (I had to write this side by side of the ban reason as I was unable to paste it here since I couldnt select the text, this is identical to the text in the ban reason maybe with an exception of a few typos.)
Time ban was placed: 12:33:27 Server time
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry, although I have previously played on Sybil on multiple occasions
Round ID in which ban was placed: 18832
Your side of the story: Was inside of the corridor between botany and the kitchen when I had stumbled into the cook hacking my door, he then ordered beergoggles and I had expressed my concern citing "just ask next time", almost instantanousely, a shattered reality appears of the corner of the screen (real one) which is when I grab the cook and explain to him what I had just seen, I tell him that he should be weary of the other cook as he had red eyes as well and may or may not have been a cultist/heretic. This is relatively unimportant to the story but I'll keep it here incase anyone needs some extra context. After that, I sit around the bar area for a while trying to find iron to grind up for amsec when all of a sudden I heard flashing near the kitchen lounge area which is when I enter the dining area to maybe get some context or clue to this. Of course, I am very alarmed at this point as this is literally only such a thing a headrev would have to do. I dont do anything in response, but warn the cooks (my colleagues) about it incase they havent caught up on it. Still making drinks, a fight develops outside the bar between what seemed to be a medical doctor shooting morphine darts at someone who looked simmilar or was the same person as the person I had seen flashing people. I grab my shotgun, and leave the bar keeping chase of the person who was getting tranq'd. I take chase on him and take a potshot with my shotgun with an impro shell (I forgot imrpov shells were loaded in), the shot is unsucessful and a few pellets land on the person tranq'ing the suspected headrev, as a result I swap my shells to beanbags to avoid such collateral damage and follow him up the hallway, where a crewmember tells me directly that there are revs on the station. I hear two flashes north of where I am so I head there which is where I find one person running away and two others beating what appeared to be an unconsious/knocked down crewmate. The two people are beating him with makeshift weapons, one possessing a electric weapon (likely saw or drill) and the other attacking him with a blunt object of sorts. I instantly open fire on the two with one of the attackers instantly running away when a medical doctor drags the unconsious person to the general direction of the brig. I am still locked in combat with the person and I manage to hit him with two beanbags, which knocks him down, I rotate around the other side, and shoot him another two times with beanbags, in an attempt to resolve the fight quickly, I mistakingly enage him in hand to hand combat with my shotgun failing to even hit him once with the stock of the gun. The person is striking me with a toolbox and I am heavily irradiated from who knows what which is when I enter a almost critical condition during the fight, I then take a crowbar and whack him a few times untill he drops to the floor unconsious. (This is where I believe I went too far). Instead of calling security, I take the matter into my own hands and start dragging his unconsious body to the general direction of the brig while pouncing him with the weapon he had used on me which I had recovered. (I believe it was a grey toolbox). The HOP and Captain stumble across the scene of my dragging an unconsious guy when I explain to them that he had beaten someone to death and incorrectly tell them that he was a tot. I pulverise him with the toolbox and he dies. I believe at this point, the captain ordered me to bring him to the medbay which I reluctantly agree and drag him to the medbay with the captain following behind, after he is buckled in the stasis bed, the captain cuffs me with zipties and brings me into a room in medbay (I did not resist his arrest). I explain to the captain what had happened and the cap tells me to not kill the person, but to get them into crit. Looking back, I should have done this, but I was almost crit myself, not looking to justify it, again, I am only trying to add a basis of more context. The captain lets me go eventually and this is when the admin messages me and this is when I head to the barkeeps office and speak to the admin.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well, this was literally a fake revscare combined with two people beating someone who I had stumbled across in a hallway, who I instinctively felt like helping. I can garuntee you that if I had not been "trolled" with a fake revscare, along with the rest of the crew, I would have probably not acted so rashly and taken the situation into my hands. Again, not trying to shift the blame onto others, but I am trying to make it understandable on why I beheaved like this. The person who inititated the revscare, was obviously looking and seeking to cause chaos, for him, job well done, for me, I acted out of line as I shouldnt have pursuied the person to begin with in the first place, it was never my fight to begin with, I was only incentivized to do something as I believed it to be a rev. In short, I believe I should be unbanned as I believe the actions and responses I took that round, was a result of the chaos caused by the revscare and the concurring words of a crewmate, combined with a conveniently placed beatdown. Other than that, I feel like defending an unconsious person from two percieved thugs beating him to death was sort of the right thing to do in the moment. I believe that this wasnt interpereted in the ban as good intention, rather interpereted as valid hunting/deathmatching.
References of good conduct: Refusing to "displace" a suspected antag (told on by multiple crew members, seeing the suspected crew member possesing cfour, and assault a person. Simultaneously while having had the idea floated by the AI holo), I had given the alleged victim and alleged aggresor the ability to come to the bar if they were being attacked/injured by one another or anyone else. I conveyed the message via the pda, in the end, the suspected tot was a tot in the end but I hadnt taken any action against him citing to multiple people the reason being that I was afraid of poor judgement and getting banned once yet again by "centcomm" - (LRP purposes only)
Anything else we should know: Throughout almost all of my previous games, I express my lack of resolve in multiple games a result of "fear" of being banned yet again from the station. (I put this here as I believe it helps demonstrate to you that I indeed am aware of the situation, and try to keep a cool tone, I was afraid my next ban was going to be a permament ban, but I thank you for being leniant with me in only giving me a 5day break rather than premabanning me which I believe some admins would have done, (Please do not misinterperet this as generalising admins or anything, this is only put in here to say you have been more than leniant with me on this one).
"Why dont you just wait it out?:" This is basically the only game I play at this point, I could theoretically wait the ban out and that would be seen as the hassle free way but I treaded lightly during the past week with my behaviour on this game and it seemed to pay off untill I was showed a revscare which seemed to fuck everything up for myself...
Thank you for reading this, I apologize if I have come off as condescending in any way here, I hope you can review this and give me a renewed verdict.
- medeelel18
BYOND account: medeelel18
Character name: Devin Plankchest (or) Mikhail Tolstykh (I cannot remember, I use both characters at random with little attention to the detail)
Ban type: Server ban
Ban length: Temporary, 5 days
Ban reason: "As a non-antagonist bartender with an active jobban from security, acquired healing items and riot armor before shooting 3 different crew members on the assumtion that they were antagonists or acting aggressively. Validhunting with the bartender shotgun is not an appropriate response to being jobbanned from security, and this is not a deathmatch server. (I had to write this side by side of the ban reason as I was unable to paste it here since I couldnt select the text, this is identical to the text in the ban reason maybe with an exception of a few typos.)
Time ban was placed: 12:33:27 Server time
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry, although I have previously played on Sybil on multiple occasions
Round ID in which ban was placed: 18832
Your side of the story: Was inside of the corridor between botany and the kitchen when I had stumbled into the cook hacking my door, he then ordered beergoggles and I had expressed my concern citing "just ask next time", almost instantanousely, a shattered reality appears of the corner of the screen (real one) which is when I grab the cook and explain to him what I had just seen, I tell him that he should be weary of the other cook as he had red eyes as well and may or may not have been a cultist/heretic. This is relatively unimportant to the story but I'll keep it here incase anyone needs some extra context. After that, I sit around the bar area for a while trying to find iron to grind up for amsec when all of a sudden I heard flashing near the kitchen lounge area which is when I enter the dining area to maybe get some context or clue to this. Of course, I am very alarmed at this point as this is literally only such a thing a headrev would have to do. I dont do anything in response, but warn the cooks (my colleagues) about it incase they havent caught up on it. Still making drinks, a fight develops outside the bar between what seemed to be a medical doctor shooting morphine darts at someone who looked simmilar or was the same person as the person I had seen flashing people. I grab my shotgun, and leave the bar keeping chase of the person who was getting tranq'd. I take chase on him and take a potshot with my shotgun with an impro shell (I forgot imrpov shells were loaded in), the shot is unsucessful and a few pellets land on the person tranq'ing the suspected headrev, as a result I swap my shells to beanbags to avoid such collateral damage and follow him up the hallway, where a crewmember tells me directly that there are revs on the station. I hear two flashes north of where I am so I head there which is where I find one person running away and two others beating what appeared to be an unconsious/knocked down crewmate. The two people are beating him with makeshift weapons, one possessing a electric weapon (likely saw or drill) and the other attacking him with a blunt object of sorts. I instantly open fire on the two with one of the attackers instantly running away when a medical doctor drags the unconsious person to the general direction of the brig. I am still locked in combat with the person and I manage to hit him with two beanbags, which knocks him down, I rotate around the other side, and shoot him another two times with beanbags, in an attempt to resolve the fight quickly, I mistakingly enage him in hand to hand combat with my shotgun failing to even hit him once with the stock of the gun. The person is striking me with a toolbox and I am heavily irradiated from who knows what which is when I enter a almost critical condition during the fight, I then take a crowbar and whack him a few times untill he drops to the floor unconsious. (This is where I believe I went too far). Instead of calling security, I take the matter into my own hands and start dragging his unconsious body to the general direction of the brig while pouncing him with the weapon he had used on me which I had recovered. (I believe it was a grey toolbox). The HOP and Captain stumble across the scene of my dragging an unconsious guy when I explain to them that he had beaten someone to death and incorrectly tell them that he was a tot. I pulverise him with the toolbox and he dies. I believe at this point, the captain ordered me to bring him to the medbay which I reluctantly agree and drag him to the medbay with the captain following behind, after he is buckled in the stasis bed, the captain cuffs me with zipties and brings me into a room in medbay (I did not resist his arrest). I explain to the captain what had happened and the cap tells me to not kill the person, but to get them into crit. Looking back, I should have done this, but I was almost crit myself, not looking to justify it, again, I am only trying to add a basis of more context. The captain lets me go eventually and this is when the admin messages me and this is when I head to the barkeeps office and speak to the admin.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well, this was literally a fake revscare combined with two people beating someone who I had stumbled across in a hallway, who I instinctively felt like helping. I can garuntee you that if I had not been "trolled" with a fake revscare, along with the rest of the crew, I would have probably not acted so rashly and taken the situation into my hands. Again, not trying to shift the blame onto others, but I am trying to make it understandable on why I beheaved like this. The person who inititated the revscare, was obviously looking and seeking to cause chaos, for him, job well done, for me, I acted out of line as I shouldnt have pursuied the person to begin with in the first place, it was never my fight to begin with, I was only incentivized to do something as I believed it to be a rev. In short, I believe I should be unbanned as I believe the actions and responses I took that round, was a result of the chaos caused by the revscare and the concurring words of a crewmate, combined with a conveniently placed beatdown. Other than that, I feel like defending an unconsious person from two percieved thugs beating him to death was sort of the right thing to do in the moment. I believe that this wasnt interpereted in the ban as good intention, rather interpereted as valid hunting/deathmatching.
References of good conduct: Refusing to "displace" a suspected antag (told on by multiple crew members, seeing the suspected crew member possesing cfour, and assault a person. Simultaneously while having had the idea floated by the AI holo), I had given the alleged victim and alleged aggresor the ability to come to the bar if they were being attacked/injured by one another or anyone else. I conveyed the message via the pda, in the end, the suspected tot was a tot in the end but I hadnt taken any action against him citing to multiple people the reason being that I was afraid of poor judgement and getting banned once yet again by "centcomm" - (LRP purposes only)
Anything else we should know: Throughout almost all of my previous games, I express my lack of resolve in multiple games a result of "fear" of being banned yet again from the station. (I put this here as I believe it helps demonstrate to you that I indeed am aware of the situation, and try to keep a cool tone, I was afraid my next ban was going to be a permament ban, but I thank you for being leniant with me in only giving me a 5day break rather than premabanning me which I believe some admins would have done, (Please do not misinterperet this as generalising admins or anything, this is only put in here to say you have been more than leniant with me on this one).
"Why dont you just wait it out?:" This is basically the only game I play at this point, I could theoretically wait the ban out and that would be seen as the hassle free way but I treaded lightly during the past week with my behaviour on this game and it seemed to pay off untill I was showed a revscare which seemed to fuck everything up for myself...
Thank you for reading this, I apologize if I have come off as condescending in any way here, I hope you can review this and give me a renewed verdict.
- medeelel18