[MSO] Don't ping admins over slurs on discord
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:24 pm
Character name: Niku#3260
Ban type: Muted on discord
Ban length: 2 days
Ban reason: "do not ping discord jannies without looking for context. slurs are not against the rules" MSO further justified his saying : "nobody should be just coming into a convo and making reports based off of a "first read" of a message or convo. if you weren't in the channel to see how or why it took off, then either read up or shut the fuck up"
Time ban was placed: 16:39 UTC 15/09/2022
Your side of the story: So, the ban refers to a report i made of discord user 687819287192273005 who goes by the handle "Biggrease" following me seeing this message https://imgur.com/a/ysluKK8 in which he is referring to transgender people as "tranny" I then called for admins to deal with him because i think that referring to groups by slurs is pretty much a violation of rule 11. I tried to look for context that would've justified that, there wasn't any, the reasons the topic was brought up was because of a meme about trans people that wasn't even offensive in anyway (at least to me).
Why you think you should be unbanned: Big grease was clearly using slurs in a bigoted way, he even stated after i pinged admins for the initial reason he stated https://imgur.com/a/mD8NE0o as a clear way to undermine trans people.
He also said in the original message i pinged admins for that "no trannie is ever going to be able to do that unless its an ftm" referring to a prior message of his stating that "I break jaws and steal teeth" https://imgur.com/a/BJNWlZ3 , i believed he fumbelled his labels when talking about FTMs because a few messages below said a transfem (noelle) could beat him up. https://imgur.com/a/0qNRCvN His train of thought can be shortened to this : Only AMAB (Assigned Male At Birth for the uninitiated in the room) could beat him up because they stay strong even after transitioning and AFAB people stay weak even after transitioning, which is a common trope used to undermine the effect of medical transition.
I think that what i shown her was enough to prove that he was being bigoted, which was obvious to me, when he used the word tranny, in which case me calling was justified then, and even if it wasn't, i believe that a 2d day mute over a ping for what seemed to be a legitimate break of the rule 11 is overzealous. Unless you were trying to make an example out of me, of course :)
If you have a rule that is supposed to act against people acting bigoted towards minorities, maybe don't mute people who make genuine reports about a potential violation of that rule.
PS: I just want to repeat it another time so it doesn't go unnoticed, the first message i read, and pinged for, was obviously transphobic to me, he addressed all trans people as "tranny", that was enough to me, if you don't consider that transphobic, okay, but please picture in your head how you would've reacted if it was the nword used to address black people, or faggot to address gay people in general. Even in the context in a joke, it's still bigoted.
PPS: Also MSO unwarned biggrease after muting me, just mentionning it in case that needs to be rectified and he was indeed being bigoted.
Ban type: Muted on discord
Ban length: 2 days
Ban reason: "do not ping discord jannies without looking for context. slurs are not against the rules" MSO further justified his saying : "nobody should be just coming into a convo and making reports based off of a "first read" of a message or convo. if you weren't in the channel to see how or why it took off, then either read up or shut the fuck up"
Time ban was placed: 16:39 UTC 15/09/2022
Your side of the story: So, the ban refers to a report i made of discord user 687819287192273005 who goes by the handle "Biggrease" following me seeing this message https://imgur.com/a/ysluKK8 in which he is referring to transgender people as "tranny" I then called for admins to deal with him because i think that referring to groups by slurs is pretty much a violation of rule 11. I tried to look for context that would've justified that, there wasn't any, the reasons the topic was brought up was because of a meme about trans people that wasn't even offensive in anyway (at least to me).
Why you think you should be unbanned: Big grease was clearly using slurs in a bigoted way, he even stated after i pinged admins for the initial reason he stated https://imgur.com/a/mD8NE0o as a clear way to undermine trans people.
He also said in the original message i pinged admins for that "no trannie is ever going to be able to do that unless its an ftm" referring to a prior message of his stating that "I break jaws and steal teeth" https://imgur.com/a/BJNWlZ3 , i believed he fumbelled his labels when talking about FTMs because a few messages below said a transfem (noelle) could beat him up. https://imgur.com/a/0qNRCvN His train of thought can be shortened to this : Only AMAB (Assigned Male At Birth for the uninitiated in the room) could beat him up because they stay strong even after transitioning and AFAB people stay weak even after transitioning, which is a common trope used to undermine the effect of medical transition.
I think that what i shown her was enough to prove that he was being bigoted, which was obvious to me, when he used the word tranny, in which case me calling was justified then, and even if it wasn't, i believe that a 2d day mute over a ping for what seemed to be a legitimate break of the rule 11 is overzealous. Unless you were trying to make an example out of me, of course :)
If you have a rule that is supposed to act against people acting bigoted towards minorities, maybe don't mute people who make genuine reports about a potential violation of that rule.
PS: I just want to repeat it another time so it doesn't go unnoticed, the first message i read, and pinged for, was obviously transphobic to me, he addressed all trans people as "tranny", that was enough to me, if you don't consider that transphobic, okay, but please picture in your head how you would've reacted if it was the nword used to address black people, or faggot to address gay people in general. Even in the context in a joke, it's still bigoted.
PPS: Also MSO unwarned biggrease after muting me, just mentionning it in case that needs to be rectified and he was indeed being bigoted.