[NamelessFairy] Tayl - 6 hour ban appeal
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:25 pm
BYOND account: Tayl
Character name: Lullaby
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 360 minutes
Ban reason: Rule 1 Ban: As a non-antagonist mime engaged in repeated acts of theft and violence throughout a the shift. Including, shoving the detective then stealing their baton, destroying a beepsky for no reason, attacking the person who picked up the beepskys baton resulting in them ending up in crit after a scuffle, looting money from a dead person and then jumping to violence and later critting after being repeatedly shoved by the person they had critted earlier. Please work towards adapting a more positive style of play in the future because clearly nobody is having fun with this playstyle.
Time ban was placed: 2022-09-24 15:13:59
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 191093
Your side of the story: The story in the ban described above is correct but lacks some context I believe, that I would like to add some precision to :
- Regarding the theft of the detective : He had previously murdered a crew member in the hallways, as indicated in the general comms log, and was in the process of stunning and harm batoning another one in the hallways when this happened. Later in the round, the detective was lynched because this behavior kept going and he had harmed & murdered additional crew members. I believe the shoving & theft from someone that was clearly being abusive was warranted this shift.
- Regarding the destruction of beepsky : No reason for it, though there hasn't been a single Terry round I've witnessed where beepsky wasn't destroyed for its stun baton, I feel like it's pretty much to be expected at this point, and I've never seen anyone get in trouble for this, beyond security retrieving the stolen stun baton
- Regarding the attacking of the person who picked up the baton : People get into conflicts over things they feel like are theirs because they were the first to get to it like this all the time, even when noone's entitled to it. Beepsky baton, shoving fights in tech storage over insuls, you name it. I believe I'm in my right to initiate an altercation there. I was only stunning them with the detective baton to retrieve what I felt belonged to me. After trying to poorly explain my intentions, being a mime and all, I got shoved by an assistant and the QM, who then retrieved the baton from me. After the original thief got up, due to lack of stuns, they started shoving and punching me, I then pulled out a broken bottle, which I believe is fair according to escalation rules, and the reason they were put into soft crit was simply because they lost the fight. They were brought to medbay later on and neither of us left with the stun baton. I considered that issue dealt with at that point.
- Regarding the looting of the money of the dead guy : I took 172 credits from an ID that was laying in medbay, then returned the ID. I'll concede that behaviour was unwarranted and shitty to do. I got murdered later on in the round for that, which I ahelped simply because the person had OOC knowledge of me doing it and acted because of that knowledge. I don't have an issue with me being assaulted after stealing his credits, and I feel like this issue was resolved IC.
- Regarding the second run in with the first thief : I was in hop line looking for additional access on my ID, the first thief came, shoved and tabled me, then stole the mime clown shoes I had that you can buy from the vending machine. I chased after them, they started shoving and punching me first, i punched then pulled out the broken bottle again, after which they screamed for help after getting downed and I got crit by onlookers, then killed by the person I stole the credits from in medbay. I wasn't the instigator in this situation, and escalated the conflict according to escalation policy in no disproportionate measure, by first merely chasing after them for stealing something I had bought from my vending machine, then escalating the conflict after getting punched first. I even was slipped and kicked while down. I believe I have done nothing wrong in this situation and my behavior is entirely within the rules, and if not I'd like to know how. The original thief then proceeded to round remove my by decapitating me and keeping my brain in his bag, which I ahelped, feeling that was unwarranted since I feel like they instigated conflict in both cases and never did they fall below soft crit health, leading to me having a long discussion with NamelessFairy and receiving a 6h ban
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe I have done nothing that warrants a ban during this round. The detective had it coming, considering his previous actions during the round of having killed someone already, and then ones that ensued, leading to his death. I doubt I'm the one getting in the way of people's fun in this situation. Securitrons get destroyed every single round on LRP, noone bats an eye and it's handled IC every time, and it doesn't harm or contribute to anyone's fun. I feel like I handled both conflicts with the thief in accordance with escalation policy. They instigated conflict both times, especially the second, and the reason they fell into crit was simply because they lost the fight they started by punching by being ill equipped, and by stopping and screaming for help when they felt they were about to get downed. They never fell into hard crit or died. Both times I hadn't engaged with them at all, especially the second time when I feel like the conflict was over and was minding my own business. Once again I doubt I'm the one getting in the way of people's fun in this situation, and would argue it's the other way around, especially with me getting round removed. The looting from the dead guy in medbay was shitty, but was handled IC. I have no history of tiding into places and fighting or killing people over gear I'd like to acquire. For all these reasons, I believe I should my ban should be lifted. A 6 hour ban I can easily handle, but I really think it's unjustified in this situation.
References of good conduct: None, my conduct isn't exemplary, but I really do believe I reflect upon the outcome of my actions and the effect it can have on other people in most situations.
Thanks for your time and consideration
Character name: Lullaby
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 360 minutes
Ban reason: Rule 1 Ban: As a non-antagonist mime engaged in repeated acts of theft and violence throughout a the shift. Including, shoving the detective then stealing their baton, destroying a beepsky for no reason, attacking the person who picked up the beepskys baton resulting in them ending up in crit after a scuffle, looting money from a dead person and then jumping to violence and later critting after being repeatedly shoved by the person they had critted earlier. Please work towards adapting a more positive style of play in the future because clearly nobody is having fun with this playstyle.
Time ban was placed: 2022-09-24 15:13:59
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 191093
Your side of the story: The story in the ban described above is correct but lacks some context I believe, that I would like to add some precision to :
- Regarding the theft of the detective : He had previously murdered a crew member in the hallways, as indicated in the general comms log, and was in the process of stunning and harm batoning another one in the hallways when this happened. Later in the round, the detective was lynched because this behavior kept going and he had harmed & murdered additional crew members. I believe the shoving & theft from someone that was clearly being abusive was warranted this shift.
- Regarding the destruction of beepsky : No reason for it, though there hasn't been a single Terry round I've witnessed where beepsky wasn't destroyed for its stun baton, I feel like it's pretty much to be expected at this point, and I've never seen anyone get in trouble for this, beyond security retrieving the stolen stun baton
- Regarding the attacking of the person who picked up the baton : People get into conflicts over things they feel like are theirs because they were the first to get to it like this all the time, even when noone's entitled to it. Beepsky baton, shoving fights in tech storage over insuls, you name it. I believe I'm in my right to initiate an altercation there. I was only stunning them with the detective baton to retrieve what I felt belonged to me. After trying to poorly explain my intentions, being a mime and all, I got shoved by an assistant and the QM, who then retrieved the baton from me. After the original thief got up, due to lack of stuns, they started shoving and punching me, I then pulled out a broken bottle, which I believe is fair according to escalation rules, and the reason they were put into soft crit was simply because they lost the fight. They were brought to medbay later on and neither of us left with the stun baton. I considered that issue dealt with at that point.
- Regarding the looting of the money of the dead guy : I took 172 credits from an ID that was laying in medbay, then returned the ID. I'll concede that behaviour was unwarranted and shitty to do. I got murdered later on in the round for that, which I ahelped simply because the person had OOC knowledge of me doing it and acted because of that knowledge. I don't have an issue with me being assaulted after stealing his credits, and I feel like this issue was resolved IC.
- Regarding the second run in with the first thief : I was in hop line looking for additional access on my ID, the first thief came, shoved and tabled me, then stole the mime clown shoes I had that you can buy from the vending machine. I chased after them, they started shoving and punching me first, i punched then pulled out the broken bottle again, after which they screamed for help after getting downed and I got crit by onlookers, then killed by the person I stole the credits from in medbay. I wasn't the instigator in this situation, and escalated the conflict according to escalation policy in no disproportionate measure, by first merely chasing after them for stealing something I had bought from my vending machine, then escalating the conflict after getting punched first. I even was slipped and kicked while down. I believe I have done nothing wrong in this situation and my behavior is entirely within the rules, and if not I'd like to know how. The original thief then proceeded to round remove my by decapitating me and keeping my brain in his bag, which I ahelped, feeling that was unwarranted since I feel like they instigated conflict in both cases and never did they fall below soft crit health, leading to me having a long discussion with NamelessFairy and receiving a 6h ban
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe I have done nothing that warrants a ban during this round. The detective had it coming, considering his previous actions during the round of having killed someone already, and then ones that ensued, leading to his death. I doubt I'm the one getting in the way of people's fun in this situation. Securitrons get destroyed every single round on LRP, noone bats an eye and it's handled IC every time, and it doesn't harm or contribute to anyone's fun. I feel like I handled both conflicts with the thief in accordance with escalation policy. They instigated conflict both times, especially the second, and the reason they fell into crit was simply because they lost the fight they started by punching by being ill equipped, and by stopping and screaming for help when they felt they were about to get downed. They never fell into hard crit or died. Both times I hadn't engaged with them at all, especially the second time when I feel like the conflict was over and was minding my own business. Once again I doubt I'm the one getting in the way of people's fun in this situation, and would argue it's the other way around, especially with me getting round removed. The looting from the dead guy in medbay was shitty, but was handled IC. I have no history of tiding into places and fighting or killing people over gear I'd like to acquire. For all these reasons, I believe I should my ban should be lifted. A 6 hour ban I can easily handle, but I really think it's unjustified in this situation.
References of good conduct: None, my conduct isn't exemplary, but I really do believe I reflect upon the outcome of my actions and the effect it can have on other people in most situations.
Thanks for your time and consideration