[NoxVs] maskenary - Server + Sec Ban
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:43 am
BYOND account: maskenary
Character name: Reider Meza
Ban type: Server + Security
Ban length: 1440 minutes + 1 week
Ban reason: As head of security, looted a cultist bartender of their shotgun. Refused to give it back after the bartender was revived and (presumably) deconverted. Resisted the bartender's attempts to recover their gear, which resulted in the bartender being crit multiple times.
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-30 00:29:07
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 197261
Your side of the story:
First of all, I did not intend to rob a rando of their stuff in the beginning, I took the shotgun while they were a cultist after a messy fight at the cult base
It was also technically the crime of possession of a weapon in space law, since it was fully loaded with improvs
I did quite need the shotgun, as there was a good amount of dangerous people around including cult, an Unknown trying to jump me with a stunprod, CMO with bathsalts that batonned me, and other stuff
When they came back to get it they started it off a bit aggressively, not stating what they wanted
And then this guy comes in and stunprods me out of nowhere, who might/was working with them
And off of that, they try to loot me, including my bag
This is not cool and increased my reluctance to give them something by a lot, why would I want to return it if that happened
They were also quite rude about returning the shotgun
I had also not recieved any confirmation that they were deconverted yet, so it was still possible they could be dangerous. Medbay staff do often just revive crit/dead bodies without asking questions. Especially because their bag was not on them I think to show their dagger.
As conpensation for what I had taken, I offered a energy gun in exchange
Which is plenty enough for any self defense. If they clearly stated what they really needed the shotgun specifically for, I might have even given the shotgun back. I did not just want to rob this guy of everything.
Later they come in and attack me with a stunprod
And then started shittalking after they were batonned back
At this point I do not intend to give it back after they behaved in the way they did and said that.
I also noticed that they had a plasmaglass spear they were just about to throw at me before I landed my stun on them, so I chucked it back at them
Later some chaos happens / I'm not paying attention enough and they successfully yoink the shotgun off of my belt
When I tried to get them for this they fired the improvised shotgun directly at me, which would have done a lot of damage and possibly give me piercing bleed wounds
So in retaliation, I crit them with lasers and I intended to heal them right after but they succumed
After this, they already did their IC revenge too, sawing me a few dozen time as I die. I think that reduces the need for OOC intervention since they already got their justice?
Logs: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/197261
Why you think you should be unbanned: Confiscation of the shotgun was valid, them being non-antagonistic was not confirmed, and the IC escalation is proper.
Edited by san7890 on December 29th, 2022: Removed portion of the appeal that read as a ban request for an involved player, appeallate was notified prior and was agreeable.
Character name: Reider Meza
Ban type: Server + Security
Ban length: 1440 minutes + 1 week
Ban reason: As head of security, looted a cultist bartender of their shotgun. Refused to give it back after the bartender was revived and (presumably) deconverted. Resisted the bartender's attempts to recover their gear, which resulted in the bartender being crit multiple times.
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-30 00:29:07
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 197261
Your side of the story:
First of all, I did not intend to rob a rando of their stuff in the beginning, I took the shotgun while they were a cultist after a messy fight at the cult base
It was also technically the crime of possession of a weapon in space law, since it was fully loaded with improvs
I did quite need the shotgun, as there was a good amount of dangerous people around including cult, an Unknown trying to jump me with a stunprod, CMO with bathsalts that batonned me, and other stuff
When they came back to get it they started it off a bit aggressively, not stating what they wanted
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10:40:42 SAY Serxule/(Muffler) "reider give me back all my shit"
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10:40:47 ATTACK Tag114/(Andrew Davis) stun attacked Maskenary/(Reider Meza) with the stunprod (NEWHP: 78)
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10:40:51 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) is stripping Maskenary/(Reider Meza) of the sawn-off Super Shotgun.
10:40:51 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) is stripping Maskenary/(Reider Meza) of the leather satchel.
They were also quite rude about returning the shotgun
I had also not recieved any confirmation that they were deconverted yet, so it was still possible they could be dangerous. Medbay staff do often just revive crit/dead bodies without asking questions. Especially because their bag was not on them I think to show their dagger.
As conpensation for what I had taken, I offered a energy gun in exchange
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10:42:51 SAY Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "ill trade it"
10:42:54 SAY Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "for a laser"
Later they come in and attack me with a stunprod
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10:46:50 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) stun attacked Maskenary/(Reider Meza) with the stunprod (NEWHP: 96.6)
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10:47:11 SAY Serxule/(Muffler) "whore"
10:47:18 SAY Serxule/(Muffler) "actually kill yourself"
I also noticed that they had a plasmaglass spear they were just about to throw at me before I landed my stun on them, so I chucked it back at them
Later some chaos happens / I'm not paying attention enough and they successfully yoink the shotgun off of my belt
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10:51:27 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) is stripping Maskenary/(Reider Meza) of the sawn-off Super Shotgun.
10:51:32 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) has stripped Maskenary/(Reider Meza) of the sawn-off Super Shotgun.
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10:55:03 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) fired at [floor] with the bullet from Medical
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10:55:15 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) Has whispered his final words with -62.6 points of health!
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11:08:48 ATTACK Serxule/(Muffler) attacked *no key*/(Reider Meza) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -58.6)
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Why you think you should be unbanned: Confiscation of the shotgun was valid, them being non-antagonistic was not confirmed, and the IC escalation is proper.
Edited by san7890 on December 29th, 2022: Removed portion of the appeal that read as a ban request for an involved player, appeallate was notified prior and was agreeable.