[Pumpkin0] Thranos - Ban Reason Clarity Request
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:46 pm
BYOND account: Thranos
Character name: Laura Winters
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 48 Hours
Ban reason: As the warden, took down the AI due to being suspicious of them after it was trying to help a human heretic not get surgery on them. While the armory did get siphoned, it was not due to the AI. After being told this and informed that a day ban was probably in the cards, went up to the HoS and assaulted them with a bottle of alcohol to light them on fire due to claiming the HoS as a 'fucking idiot'.
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-11 22:54:50
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 203593
Your side of the story: The first half of the ban reason (the AI) is, while not in my opinion entirely accurate, accurate enough for a middle ground in the usual "he said she said" of most ahelps. The second half (the HoS), however, I have several issues with. First and foremost being that the molotov and the day ban were completely unrelated (and yes it was a molotov)- After the AI incident, I had been "demoted" (command just... never bothered to demote me for real???), I spent a lot of time on comms badmouthing command, especially the HoS. I even encouraged people to riot after command and security wound up letting at least two heretics run around unchecked, leading to the abduction of one of the only officers trying to keep people safe. It was only after a while of doing this that I was told about a potential dayban, which had no influence over my decision to molotov the HoS. In addition, I reached out to the player of the HoS that round, and they made it clear they had no issue with the incident, nor did they ahelp it. I feel that a single molotov throw against someone who stood there and casually ignored it is an unfair reason for a doubling of a ban's time, and in addition, I was not given any time to explain myself, nor asked to do so after throwing the molotov. I was immediately teleported into the admin prison while the HoS was standing in front of me, no longer on fire, and was very shortly banned with no attempt at further communication with me- which I mention due to the response I got when I attempted to get clarification from the banning admin on discord, which was roughly "I gave you lots of chances to talk to me in the ticket". I'm unsure how I could have talked to them about the second half of the ban given that I wasn't even made aware of it until the ban dropped, only that something was clearly not good due to being whisked away to admin prison abruptly.
Why you think you should be unbanned: The dayban over the AI incident is justified. The 24 hours tacked on over something that didn't even happen in the order implied, less so.
Character name: Laura Winters
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 48 Hours
Ban reason: As the warden, took down the AI due to being suspicious of them after it was trying to help a human heretic not get surgery on them. While the armory did get siphoned, it was not due to the AI. After being told this and informed that a day ban was probably in the cards, went up to the HoS and assaulted them with a bottle of alcohol to light them on fire due to claiming the HoS as a 'fucking idiot'.
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-11 22:54:50
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 203593
Your side of the story: The first half of the ban reason (the AI) is, while not in my opinion entirely accurate, accurate enough for a middle ground in the usual "he said she said" of most ahelps. The second half (the HoS), however, I have several issues with. First and foremost being that the molotov and the day ban were completely unrelated (and yes it was a molotov)- After the AI incident, I had been "demoted" (command just... never bothered to demote me for real???), I spent a lot of time on comms badmouthing command, especially the HoS. I even encouraged people to riot after command and security wound up letting at least two heretics run around unchecked, leading to the abduction of one of the only officers trying to keep people safe. It was only after a while of doing this that I was told about a potential dayban, which had no influence over my decision to molotov the HoS. In addition, I reached out to the player of the HoS that round, and they made it clear they had no issue with the incident, nor did they ahelp it. I feel that a single molotov throw against someone who stood there and casually ignored it is an unfair reason for a doubling of a ban's time, and in addition, I was not given any time to explain myself, nor asked to do so after throwing the molotov. I was immediately teleported into the admin prison while the HoS was standing in front of me, no longer on fire, and was very shortly banned with no attempt at further communication with me- which I mention due to the response I got when I attempted to get clarification from the banning admin on discord, which was roughly "I gave you lots of chances to talk to me in the ticket". I'm unsure how I could have talked to them about the second half of the ban given that I wasn't even made aware of it until the ban dropped, only that something was clearly not good due to being whisked away to admin prison abruptly.
Why you think you should be unbanned: The dayban over the AI incident is justified. The 24 hours tacked on over something that didn't even happen in the order implied, less so.