[Cheshify] Tartersause - banned for iffy escalation
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:17 pm
BYOND account: Tartersause
Character name: Marcus Zimmerman
Ban type: Banned from all servers
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Tartersause) is banned from player here. The ban reason is: Another instance of iffy escalation. As an assistant, shoved the HOP because they were refused a silver ID. This was quickly escalated in them trying to kill the HOP with a broken bottle, and later ahelping to tell admin they'd be killing and round removing the HOP. This ban (BanID #65533) was applied by cheshify on 2023-04-16 21:16:27 during round ID 203903. The ban is for 1 day and expires on 2023-04-17 21:16:27 (server time)
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-16 21:16:27
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 203903
Your side of the story: Upon beginning round 203903 I had decided to be a magician, I retrieved a black jumpsuit from the shuttle and looked to obtain further accessories. I had tried to access the service hall, presuming it would have the amenities that I would require. I however lacked appropriate access, and entered the HoP line. I asked the HoP for a silver id with access to most of general, meaning service. He summarily refused but I pressed the matter, telling him to "give me my id" and "do it" where he then asked me to leave the line. I refused, the individual behind me was aggravated by my holding up of the line. He had stated that he would "beat my arse" upon which I told him to "do it". When he came out, I observed that he had equipped himself with at telescopic baton, and I shoved him. He then stun attacked me twice, but on his third attempt he hit a firelock. As I recomposed myself I had armed myself with a space beer bottle, which I threw at him. I first shoved him 4 times, as a third individual entered the brawl, the person who was behind me in line had begun attacking me. I armed myself with the broken space beer bottle, and began attacking both of them while shuffling down from the HoP office to I believe science.
They had incapacitated me and I was hauled off to the brig, and given a sentence for resisting arrest and assault. I threatened to kill the HoP and was tracker implanted, following my release I had ahelped. Having been warned 2 times previously for failed escalation, I sought approval from an administrator to escalate. I put forth the idea of "sending the HoP to the morgue" and reformatted to "sending the HoP to the medbay". I've been unable to locate exact ahelp logs but I believe it went as such.
Cheshify I believe questioned why I had attacked the HoP in the first place, saying I had attempted to kill the HoP with a beer bottle, and told me to take a "break". Following Cheshify's advice I left the game and was banned.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I had been warned regarding my escalation practices previously, and I believed my behavior had improved up until this incident. I tried to tell Cheshify that I had entered myself into a bad situation, and that it was a 2v1. I didn't immediately arm myself with the beer bottle, still choosing to shove while the HoP attempted to stun me. I only armed myself when I found it necessary, despite my attempts to tell Cheshify that I was at a severe disadvantage and it was only for defensive purposes. Cheshify continuously accused me of attempting to "kill the HoP with a broken beer bottle" despite the HoP never reaching under 70 health during the entire encounter. All in all I believe I escalated appropriately.
Anything else we should know: I have been banned from other servers such as Goonstation which was permanent, I however appealed successfully. I was banned on Bee for something I don't remember, and banned on Yog for self-antagging.
Character name: Marcus Zimmerman
Ban type: Banned from all servers
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Tartersause) is banned from player here. The ban reason is: Another instance of iffy escalation. As an assistant, shoved the HOP because they were refused a silver ID. This was quickly escalated in them trying to kill the HOP with a broken bottle, and later ahelping to tell admin they'd be killing and round removing the HOP. This ban (BanID #65533) was applied by cheshify on 2023-04-16 21:16:27 during round ID 203903. The ban is for 1 day and expires on 2023-04-17 21:16:27 (server time)
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-16 21:16:27
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 203903
Your side of the story: Upon beginning round 203903 I had decided to be a magician, I retrieved a black jumpsuit from the shuttle and looked to obtain further accessories. I had tried to access the service hall, presuming it would have the amenities that I would require. I however lacked appropriate access, and entered the HoP line. I asked the HoP for a silver id with access to most of general, meaning service. He summarily refused but I pressed the matter, telling him to "give me my id" and "do it" where he then asked me to leave the line. I refused, the individual behind me was aggravated by my holding up of the line. He had stated that he would "beat my arse" upon which I told him to "do it". When he came out, I observed that he had equipped himself with at telescopic baton, and I shoved him. He then stun attacked me twice, but on his third attempt he hit a firelock. As I recomposed myself I had armed myself with a space beer bottle, which I threw at him. I first shoved him 4 times, as a third individual entered the brawl, the person who was behind me in line had begun attacking me. I armed myself with the broken space beer bottle, and began attacking both of them while shuffling down from the HoP office to I believe science.
They had incapacitated me and I was hauled off to the brig, and given a sentence for resisting arrest and assault. I threatened to kill the HoP and was tracker implanted, following my release I had ahelped. Having been warned 2 times previously for failed escalation, I sought approval from an administrator to escalate. I put forth the idea of "sending the HoP to the morgue" and reformatted to "sending the HoP to the medbay". I've been unable to locate exact ahelp logs but I believe it went as such.
Cheshify I believe questioned why I had attacked the HoP in the first place, saying I had attempted to kill the HoP with a beer bottle, and told me to take a "break". Following Cheshify's advice I left the game and was banned.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I had been warned regarding my escalation practices previously, and I believed my behavior had improved up until this incident. I tried to tell Cheshify that I had entered myself into a bad situation, and that it was a 2v1. I didn't immediately arm myself with the beer bottle, still choosing to shove while the HoP attempted to stun me. I only armed myself when I found it necessary, despite my attempts to tell Cheshify that I was at a severe disadvantage and it was only for defensive purposes. Cheshify continuously accused me of attempting to "kill the HoP with a broken beer bottle" despite the HoP never reaching under 70 health during the entire encounter. All in all I believe I escalated appropriately.
Anything else we should know: I have been banned from other servers such as Goonstation which was permanent, I however appealed successfully. I was banned on Bee for something I don't remember, and banned on Yog for self-antagging.