[Thedragmeme] Muffindrake - unfair handling of player response to self-antag
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:45 pm
BYOND account: Muffindrake
Character name: Baal-Fur
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 24h
Ban reason: (MRP) Rule 1, Poor escalation. After being stolen from by an assistant had poor escalation and resorted to immediate lethal means when their life was not at risk. This note is escalated to a day ban due to blatant rule 1 breaches, server tribalism, and being insulting in tickets when they did not recieve the outcome they wanted. If you have issues on our servers please allow admins time to handle them, instead of complicating the issue further.
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-18 22:18:39
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 204026
Your side of the story: I was affected by the current round's admin event where I was immediately blown up by them and had a limb removed at the engineering protolathe. Since I was deaf and had an arm missing, I headed to Medical to get it reattached. Medical had constructed their surgery tables right inside the Medical Treatment Centre. I stripped my character except for my bag and waited patiently for a doc to get to me. During that time, an assistant walked ran to the pile of my equipment on the floor, and stole a toolbelt, then bolted out of Medbay. They came back pretty soonish and did the same with my ID. Since they were blatantly self-antagging because either they were bored or doing haha funny roleplay, I shoved them to the floor when they later came back to Medical to proclaim it was 'a joke' (having my ID returned by another engineer, and my toolbelt completely missing, which is great if your protolathe got blown up with your machine board disintegrated), beat them to crit with a table, then threw them down to the lower tram area below medical. Shortly before this I ahelped to get an admin to talk to the person since they were obviously self-antagging. Since the game does not wait for ahelps, I had already beaten the guy to a pulp before the admin had a chance to respond to me. The admin threatened me with a note/ban shortly after and demanding I go back and drag them back to Medical. I told them I was going to do that, just that I'm not obliged to do that immediately. Someone else then dragged them back to Medical roughly ten or fifteen seconds before I had gone back, at which point the admin decided to day ban me.
Why you think you should be unbanned: The admin listed 'being insulting because I didn't receive the outcome I wanted' in the ticket, but the admin did _nothing_ do begin with before deciding to ban me, so what's the deal here? They accuse me of server tribalism since I told them that the player in question belongs on Terry since they were being a self-antagging asshole. This is funny because I still mostly play on Terry, and self-antagging-adjacent behaviour is more expected there to begin with. Also, handing a person that was just griefed by a player that had broken the rules to begin with a punishment is the most dystopian thing you could possibly do at that moment. Insults are warranted since the admin was obviously out of touch.
References of good conduct: I'm pretty well known on Terry and Manuel both, and don't engage in poor escalation behaviour, since generally I don't get griefed by self-antagging shitters, or at least not anymore since moderation has mostly removed those people from my sight.
Anything else we should know: -
Character name: Baal-Fur
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 24h
Ban reason: (MRP) Rule 1, Poor escalation. After being stolen from by an assistant had poor escalation and resorted to immediate lethal means when their life was not at risk. This note is escalated to a day ban due to blatant rule 1 breaches, server tribalism, and being insulting in tickets when they did not recieve the outcome they wanted. If you have issues on our servers please allow admins time to handle them, instead of complicating the issue further.
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-18 22:18:39
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 204026
Your side of the story: I was affected by the current round's admin event where I was immediately blown up by them and had a limb removed at the engineering protolathe. Since I was deaf and had an arm missing, I headed to Medical to get it reattached. Medical had constructed their surgery tables right inside the Medical Treatment Centre. I stripped my character except for my bag and waited patiently for a doc to get to me. During that time, an assistant walked ran to the pile of my equipment on the floor, and stole a toolbelt, then bolted out of Medbay. They came back pretty soonish and did the same with my ID. Since they were blatantly self-antagging because either they were bored or doing haha funny roleplay, I shoved them to the floor when they later came back to Medical to proclaim it was 'a joke' (having my ID returned by another engineer, and my toolbelt completely missing, which is great if your protolathe got blown up with your machine board disintegrated), beat them to crit with a table, then threw them down to the lower tram area below medical. Shortly before this I ahelped to get an admin to talk to the person since they were obviously self-antagging. Since the game does not wait for ahelps, I had already beaten the guy to a pulp before the admin had a chance to respond to me. The admin threatened me with a note/ban shortly after and demanding I go back and drag them back to Medical. I told them I was going to do that, just that I'm not obliged to do that immediately. Someone else then dragged them back to Medical roughly ten or fifteen seconds before I had gone back, at which point the admin decided to day ban me.
Why you think you should be unbanned: The admin listed 'being insulting because I didn't receive the outcome I wanted' in the ticket, but the admin did _nothing_ do begin with before deciding to ban me, so what's the deal here? They accuse me of server tribalism since I told them that the player in question belongs on Terry since they were being a self-antagging asshole. This is funny because I still mostly play on Terry, and self-antagging-adjacent behaviour is more expected there to begin with. Also, handing a person that was just griefed by a player that had broken the rules to begin with a punishment is the most dystopian thing you could possibly do at that moment. Insults are warranted since the admin was obviously out of touch.
References of good conduct: I'm pretty well known on Terry and Manuel both, and don't engage in poor escalation behaviour, since generally I don't get griefed by self-antagging shitters, or at least not anymore since moderation has mostly removed those people from my sight.
Anything else we should know: -