Thanks for the log summary, the unrelated deaths section notably they have a fair ammount of oxygen damage mixed in with some brute (mostly), which would be roughly what I'd expect from an explosion and depressurisation problem. Not really something that can be easily confirmed but there's likely some relationed in this set, which overall brings the kill count easily into the 5-10 directly related deaths plus assorted injury and presumably other damage on survivors we've no way of tracking really.
Bringing weapons of mass destruction on to the shuttle for EORG really doesn't buy you any ground here, you're responsible for it and in context there is no EORG and your actions make no sense. Shuttles REGULARLY catch fire. Like maybe more shuttles catch fire or have other minor explosions on them than don't. The odds on something chain reacting your monkey is not a huge leap of foresight. In fact, doesn't even really require foresight from you does it. Normally I'd infer you have some idea what you're doing from played hours or something, but here's an OOC snipped from the START of this round.
(Log file sources used :
https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... nd-205132/ using combined attack.txt and game.txt)
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[2023-05-05 16:05:42.320] OOC: Excitant/(Excitant) "monkey" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:20.869] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "mmmm" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:22.317] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "monkey" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:23.932] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "mmm" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:26.589] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "gunpowder" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:28.573] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "mmm" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:30.461] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "napalm" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:35.184] OOC: Pugaware/(Pugaware) "Fuck you clonker dont od that again" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:40.785] OOC: Pugaware/(Pugaware) "it makes a massive hole" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:42.092] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "you see" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:45.416] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "i did not light it" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:50.251] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "i was SELLING it" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:55.021] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "but someone came and lit it" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:06:59.135] OOC: Pugaware/(Pugaware) "ah yeah the good old guns dont klill ppl" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:05.285] OOC: Pugaware/(Pugaware) "stop making nuke monke" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:10.818] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "well, someone came and did it" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:16.019] OOC: Pugaware/(Pugaware) "it does a hol;e the size of a syndie bomb" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:21.281] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "yes and" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:34.442] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(Clonkerbonker) "what about it" (start area (8,248,1))
[2023-05-05 16:07:49.917] OOC: Pugaware/(Daria Morgendorffer) "you wont be able to claim it was an accdient" (Chief Engineer's Office (154,143,2))
[2023-05-05 16:07:54.975] OOC: Roozbeh/(David Kosovah) "You Are the changeling" (Departure Lounge (98,70,2))
[2023-05-05 16:07:55.755] OOC: Pugaware/(Daria Morgendorffer) "when you keep spamming them :D" (Chief Engineer's Office (154,143,2))
[2023-05-05 16:07:57.316] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "i didnt mean to blow it up there, it was a good i was gonna sell" (Restrooms (133,156,2))
[2023-05-05 16:09:21.352] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "they paypal the owner" (Central Primary Hallway (114,115,2))
This is from the START of the round ; you talking about something from the previous round where you're apparently distributing bombs? as a non antag? and without sufficient care that someone came along and blew a massive hole in somewhere? Care to give us the story of this conversation? Regardless, this is before the round and sets the stage for what's coming ; the same thing as just happened. Who could have seen that coming. The warnings from the community at the very end of this log are very accurate and prophetic.
And here's more context from the end of the round. I'm mildly curious to find the full context for some of these conversation fragments but I don't currently feel like I really need to dive deeper:
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[2023-05-05 17:28:18.520] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "its" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:20.293] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "napalm" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:24.989] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "guess whats in this monkey" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:30.743] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "thats correct" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:39.184] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "gunpowder" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:46.981] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "can i show?" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:28:55.571] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "youd die" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:09.077] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "i dont recommend" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:10.609] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "if i" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:14.526] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "i" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:18.744] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "need to try to time it" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:24.429] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "sec" (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:28.729] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "i can stop the hijack" (Emergency Shuttle (37,68,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:31.789] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "mind if i?" (Emergency Shuttle (37,68,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:36.382] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "get the fuck out" (Emergency Shuttle (38,70,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:45.306] ATTACK: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) attempted to inject *no key*/(monkey (495)) with the bluespace syringe which had /datum/reagent/napalm (60u, 0.785557 purity) (NEWHP: -137.3) (Emergency Shuttle (38,68,15))
[2023-05-05 17:29:48.454] ATTACK: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) attempted to inject *no key*/(monkey (495)) with the bluespace syringe which had /datum/reagent/napalm (60u, 0.785557 purity) (NEWHP: -138.3) (Emergency Shuttle (38,69,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:10.055] EMOTE: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) points at the retro floor (Emergency Shuttle (39,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:11.044] EMOTE: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) points at Angie Greenawalt (Emergency Shuttle (39,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:13.819] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "hi hi jacker" (Emergency Shuttle (38,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:32.224] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "fuck this shift" (Emergency Shuttle (38,68,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:33.508] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "amirite" (Emergency Shuttle (38,68,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:40.072] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "move back" (Emergency Shuttle (40,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:41.638] ATTACK: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) attempted to inject *no key*/(monkey (495)) with the bluespace syringe which had /datum/reagent/napalm (60u, 0.785557 purity) (NEWHP: -173.8) (Emergency Shuttle (41,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:43.961] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Emergency Shuttle (40,67,15). Last Fingerprint: clonkerbonker.
[2023-05-05 17:30:43.962] GAME: Explosion with size (3, 6, 13, 0) in (Emergency Shuttle (40,67,15)). Possible cause: the monkey (495). Last fingerprints: clonkerbonker/(John Terry).
[2023-05-05 17:30:44.454] ATTACK: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) has died (BRUTE: 0, BURN: 0, TOX: 42.8, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0) (Emergency Shuttle (41,67,15))
[2023-05-05 17:30:44.482] ACCESS: Mob Login: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) was assigned to a /mob/living/brain
[2023-05-05 17:30:44.501] GAME: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) Client Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) has taken ownership of mob John Terry(/mob/living/brain) (UNKNOWN (?, ?, ?))
[2023-05-05 17:30:46.341] ACCESS: Mob Login: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-05-05 17:30:46.363] GAME: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) Client Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) has taken ownership of mob John Terry(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (41,66,15))
[2023-05-05 17:31:03.396] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "how the fuck did that" (Hyperspace (40,66,15))
[2023-05-05 17:31:19.352] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "i didnt even give it napalm" (Hyperspace (40,66,15))
[2023-05-05 17:31:23.352] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "how did it blow" (Hyperspace (40,66,15))
[2023-05-05 17:31:35.680] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "oh" (Emergency Shuttle (211,87,1))
[2023-05-05 17:31:36.977] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "yea" (Emergency Shuttle (211,93,1))
[2023-05-05 17:31:42.000] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "zamn" (Emergency Shuttle (211,96,1))
[2023-05-05 17:31:53.778] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "fuck this cap tho" (Emergency Shuttle (211,96,1))
[2023-05-05 17:31:57.503] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "monkey" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
[2023-05-05 17:32:00.192] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "superior" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
[2023-05-05 17:32:10.727] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "sec was CLINICALLY INSANE" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
[2023-05-05 17:32:16.030] SAY: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) (DEAD) "fuck sec today" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
[2023-05-05 17:32:23.495] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "monkey" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
[2023-05-05 17:32:31.262] OOC: Clonkerbonker/(John Terry) "monkey" (Emergency Shuttle (212,94,1))
I dont actually know if the reagent transfer completed, I'd need to do some log testing to see if the explosion effect trumps the completion of the injection message or anything like that, regardless, you tried, and the whole lead up to the explosion "i can stop the hijack" "get the fuck out" <multiple inject attempts going on> "move back", all the while messing around with your bomb monkey, the final inject attempt being about 2 seconds before it explodes. But even if you didn't inject it, dragging a bomb onto the shuttle and around the burning areas doesn't bode well for you.
Honestly going in to this, if you had a clean enough history and stuff I was considering giving you a nice soft cap of a week for your actions if it seemed like it was just gross stupidity and not really thinking about things. But then I read these additional log segments in more detail, particularly the round start OOC. You know exactly what the risks are. In fact by the sounds of it you got away with something in the previous round that you should have been bwoinked for. Unless you can offer some explanation?
As such, my feeling has shifted, I have no intention of reducing the two week ban, I suspect you may have gotten away with something more here, but for certain you had direct experience of the consequences and knew exactly what could happen, and it did.
Over to you if you have anything to counter any of these points or additional information you can provide that might shift my opinion here.