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[Cheshify] semicolonthreethreethree - roundend ic ooc

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:42 am
by sc333
BYOND account: semicolonthreethreethree
Ban type: Note
Ban reason: IC in OOC "OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree: EORG before EORG lets gooooooo" "OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree: kill emmmmmmmm" Was told about IC in OOC rules.
Time ban was placed: 2023-04-27 02:52:03
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 204527
Your side of the story: The shuttle was about to dock, only a few/several seconds beforehand I said (above quotes). While 'rules as written' I guess technically this violates the rules since it was before the roundend report, it was a victimless crime and in no shape or form could anyone have been negatively impacted IC wise by what I said, let alone with only a very very short time to act on it even if they did.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I think that the note is accurate but unjustifiably harsh, given the second half of what I said in the previous line. 'Rules as intended' I did not harm anyone nor intend to harm anyone's round.
Anything else we should know: A staff member, I believe Bugstep, said they wouldn't have noted for that personally. Additionally, while I have no evidence of this since it was a while back, something said something way more IC in OOC like "John Johnson almost ascended" and the staffmember online at the time joked saying "Round didn't end yet...now I gotta ban you!" or something like that. For clarification, the importance of this is that it implies that two staff members find it to be more harsh than what they would personally note for.

Re: [Cheshify] semicolonthreethreethree - roundend ic ooc

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 5:15 am
by Cheshify
The round doesn't end until the round-end status panel appears. I don't believe that allowing IC in OOC a few seconds before then is a good precedent to set, and I don't believe that the note detailing exactly what happened without any kind of opinion or warning is unreasonably harsh. You discussed the round in OOC before the round ended, and I reminded you that this is not allowed. I believe the note was important, as you didn't seemingly have a grasp on how the rules worked within the discussion we had.

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Why the IC in OOC?
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:48:28
Oh come on it didnt matter to the round and it was 3 seconds before
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:48:49
it didnt harm anyone
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:48:54
So was the bomb
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:48:58
The bomb was IC in OOC?
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:49:13
The rules don't stop taking effect before the round-end screen shows up.
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:49:24
ive been dead for like 15 minutes?
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:49:35
The bomb was also before EORG, meaning that neither are allowed.
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:49:39
I didnt bomb the shuttle?
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:49:41
I know, I'm using it as an example
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:49:54
My bad, I thought it was fine cause it wasnt affecting anyones round or anything
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:50:17
Usually thats why people dont like IC in OOC
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:50:32
Nope, you're not allowed to discuss the round in ooc until the roundend screen pops up.
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:50:35
Im sorry i wont do it again
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:50:47
Please dont let this be my first note when it didnt hurt anyone
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:51:28
It wont happen again, I swear
semicolonthreethreethree ➡ cheshify
2023-04-27T02:51:46
Cheshify/(Pela Kheol) has created a note for SemicolonthreethreethreeIC in OOC "OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree: EORG before EORG lets gooooooo""OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree: kill emmmmmmmm"Was told about IC in OOC rules.
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:51:58
Notes expire in like six months, I'm going to send you the rules page. Read it, and you won't get any more.
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:52:22
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
cheshify ➡ semicolonthreethreethree
2023-04-27T02:52:33
Resolved by Cheshify
cheshify ➡ Admins
2023-04-27T02:52:41

Re: [Cheshify] semicolonthreethreethree - roundend ic ooc

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:58 pm
by Vekter
Relevant logs!
[2023-04-27 02:47:43.986] OOC: 02:47:43.986] OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree/(Philip Schaeffer) "EORG before EORG lets gooooooo" (Hyperspace (48,26,15))
[2023-04-27 02:47:45.504] OOC: 02:47:45.504] OOC: Semicolonthreethreethree/(Philip Schaeffer) "kill emmmmmmmm" (Hyperspace (48,26,15))
[2023-04-27 02:47:57.525] GAME: 02:47:57.525] GAME: The round has ended.

Re: [Cheshify] semicolonthreethreethree - roundend ic ooc

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:14 pm
by Cheshify
Considering the lack of response and current permaban. I'm going to be wrapping this appeal up.

Dumb headmin posts in wrong topic and has to move the post to the correct topic.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:26 pm
by Timberpoes
I permabanned sc333 for evading.

There is no tapering of punishments the closer you are to shift end for rule breaks.

If you start "Operation Fuck Around" before the shift is over, whether it's 1 minute or 1 second too early, the admin team can still reply with "Operation Find Out" at full force.

Don't take the risk.

I'm just tagging this to note that it has had headmin oversight.