Vekter wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:51 am
I'm not removing the note for reasons that I've already gone over in the peanut
Since you didn't feel the need to post them here I'll go over a few of your posts in the beanut thread, right here, for you, right now.
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:25 pm
What's left out here is that they built the BSA in the bar on Meta facing west, meaning the beam fires out and hits people as they get off the arrivals shuttle. His reason for doing it sucked ("lol it's funny") and I punished him because he should
when I meant "it's funny" I was referring to having a BSA (a big huge gun that takes up half the screen) in the bar was funny
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:25 pm
better sense than to build something that's going to cut a giant hole in the station somewhere that will not only cut the station in half but round remove people who literally just joined.
Again, I had no intention of getting the BSA armed or fired at any point, the fact 2 players have to go out of their way for is already something I have stated, aside from that arrivals was not something I had considered or let alone anything else beyond big gun placed in the bar = funny, & won't be an issue due to authentication.
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:25 pm
The only thing I did wrong here was not also bonk the heads for unlocking it, but there's a potential argument that they didn't know he'd built it in the bar.
pay attention to timestamps, ToastGoat's comment in dchat verifies that at the time the BSA was in fact there at the time, leading to wawa (the captain) of the station to comment "nice" before going into the bar which at that point had the BSA in it, which is kind of hard to miss, which means that he was very well aware of where it was on the station (the bar), following this he immediately without hesitation goes to the bridge where he prompts another head of staff to swipe to unlock the BSA
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01:57:45 SAY ToastGoats/(Paul Grumblestumpskin) (DEAD) "Oh god who built a bsa for anyone to use in bar" (133, 133, 2) Bar Lounge
01:58:20 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "nice" (127, 131, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:58:27 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (137, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
01:58:30 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
01:58:40 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "need" (135, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
01:58:42 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "hold on" (135, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
01:58:50 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at Bruce McAfee (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:51 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at the floor (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:51 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "waaaaaagh!!!" FORCED by brain damage (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:51 EMOTE BagpipeJogger/(Atlas RO) points at Wawa Benford (106, 136, 2) Bridge
01:58:52 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "you" (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:54 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "unlock" (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:58 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "bluespace gun" (108, 137, 2) Bridge
01:58:59 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at Keycard Authentication Device (109, 137, 2) Bridge
01:59:00 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at Keycard Authentication Device (109, 137, 2) Bridge
01:59:00 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at Keycard Authentication Device (109, 137, 2) Bridge
01:59:23 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "someone else swipe on the keycard" (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:59:37 SAY FREDTHE2ND/(Mirracle Harison) "wawa please do not nuke the station" (92, 62, 2) Chapel
01:59:47 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "swuipe" (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:59:47 EMOTE WXCirrus/(Checks-The-Vibes) points at Wawa Benford (115, 130, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:59:57 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "funny gun" (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
02:00:01 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "bsa" (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
02:00:04 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
02:00:14 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
02:00:24 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (120, 135, 2) Captain's Quarters
02:00:24 SAY Mystic_Midgit/(Bruce McAfee) "Wawa if you get the bluespace gun through any method I'm going to gun you down" (105, 136, 2) Bridge
02:00:29 GAME Overuseddart/(Barco Merg) triggered and Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) confirmed event Bluespace Artillery Unlock. (132, 100, 2) Research Director's Office
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:39 pm
The person who was actually responsible for pulling the trigger was an antagonist, they didn't do anything outside of expectation.
this is in fact patently false, I don't blame you if you took Archie's post as your proof, as sweet as it was for them to kindly lay out logs, they ended up posting the wrong kind of logging for this, as the ones they posted work off of the last person who touched it before firing which if you know how shitcode interfaces are, you'll know that's not a good idea, thankfully however there is proper logging for this exact thing (crazy I know).
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02:00:47 GAME RandyBucket/(Big Bongo) has launched an artillery strike targeting Space (21,42,2). (137, 131, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:14 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting AI Upload Chamber (100,152,2). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:13 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Lavaland Wastes (123,222,3). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:13 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting nonexistent location. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:49 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Captain's Quarters (121,135,2). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:05:02 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Lavaland Wastes (119,215,3). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:05:39 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Lavaland Wastes (231,20,3). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
with the proper logs you can clearly see the only 2 people responsible for the BSA firing were a Chef named Big Bongo, who was NOT an antag and has only ONE round on his scrubby, and the second person who fired the BSA and arguably spammed it was none other than the Captain Wawa (yet another non-antag) which is fully corroborated by his say logs
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02:00:29 GAME Overuseddart/(Barco Merg) triggered and Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) confirmed event Bluespace Artillery Unlock. (132, 100, 2) Research Director's Office
02:00:36 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (127, 132, 2) Central Primary Hallway
02:00:42 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:00:45 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "free" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:00:54 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "nice" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:00:57 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) points at �space (131, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:00:59 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "moment" (132, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:03 SAY Mystic_Midgit/(Bruce McAfee) "We kil Wawa" (105, 136, 2) Bridge
02:01:09 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "FIRE!!" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:18 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "soon" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:21 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "rechargeing" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:26 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) drools. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:28 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "this is so lame" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:35 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) drools. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:35 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "wnat gun NOW!!" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:41 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "zzzzz" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:44 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:49 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:01:56 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:06 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "whats enycrypted upload" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:09 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) drools. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:09 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:10 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "I wanna shoot it" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:13 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has aimed the artillery strike at /datum/component/gps.
02:02:14 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting AI Upload Chamber (100,152,2). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:24 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "sup" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:24 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:27 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "A PIRATE APPEAR" FORCED by brain damage (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:30 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "thanks" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:36 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:45 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "this gun is so cool" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:46 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:02:57 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) yawns. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:00 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) drools. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:03 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:12 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has aimed the artillery strike at /datum/component/gps.
02:03:13 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Lavaland Wastes (123,222,3). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:13 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting nonexistent location. (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:16 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:23 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "yea and?" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:29 SAY Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) "dont breath nerd" (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:34 EMOTE Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) coughs! (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
02:03:48 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has aimed the artillery strike at /datum/component/gps.
02:03:49 GAME Scissorbird/(Wawa Benford) has launched an artillery strike targeting Captain's Quarters (121,135,2). (136, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
I don't know about you but it speaks for itself, feel free to check out the logs for more.
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:53 pm
The player knew about what it did and that's why they put it there, they explicitly told me they did it because they thought it would be funny.
again it was the BSA (big fuckhuge gun) being in the bar that was funny, if I wanted it to fire I would put it in an actually sane spot.
Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:53 pm
The ban has nothing to do with skill or being bad at the game, it has to do with doing something catastrophically stupid that got a bunch of people killed because you think it's funny.
idk man it seems to me like the ban was over a shitter that saw a BSA in a dangerous spot and immediately decided to go arm it and start firing it with zero fucks to everyone else (the captain) and i'm the one who ate a ban for it (just for building it) tbh I didn't care about the ban because I got some half-decent sleep that night, but I don't like have a gun to my head in the form of a triple exclamation note over something I had no control over (inb4 shouldn't have built it lul)
tldr: shitter saw BSA in bar and immediately went out of their way to arm it and start blowing up the station with it despite being a non-antag, and i'm somehow the one in trouble for it.
sidenote: this thread is my first few times posting on the forums if I fucked up any way, soz.... feel free to check through the logs yourself in case I accidentally fucked up something :)
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/209 ... e=game.txt