/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:16 pm**

BYOND account: Subscipt
Character name: Gall Eggburt
Note type: Note on profile
Note length: Indefinite (I think?)
Note reason: "As a assistant, attacked the emergency shuttle bridge windows and was then let inside by the HoP, then killed the hop with a o2 tank. Player wasnt online to ask about the situation."
Time note was placed: 2023-07-06 17:54:31
Server you were playing on when note'd: Terry
Round ID in which note was placed: 209742
Your side of the story: I wanted to get into shuttle bridge, saying I wanted to look out the window. The HoP was quite aggressive about keeping me out, understandably, but after hitting me a bit, decides to allow me to stay in bridge, handcuffed to a chair. I'm pretty sure a giant worm broke in the door shortly afterwards, then a bunch of fellow assistants swarmed in. HoP sees red and starts lethalling people. During this, since the worm broke in, I've been working against my handcuffs and get free. The whole bridge is a bit of a mess, and I see the HoP laying on the floor, but out of crit. I decide to take revenge for the greyshirts that were killed unfairly by the HoP, and hit the HoP a couple times with a toolbox. The HoP asks me something along the lines of "Wanna die?", after which point we start hitting each other, and I end up killing them.
Why you think the note should be changed/removed: I very rarely get into fights, and I even got one of those little hearts a round or two before this incident after helping a new roboticist. While I do believe that my actions were justified IC, I try not to make a habit of harming people up when I can avoid it, unlike this person.
Anything else we should know: I think it's relevant to bring up some things that the HoP said post-death: "DEAD: Anastasia Isaman says, "FUck this, I'm automatically killing every single greytider the moment they do even the slightest shit to me"" "DEAD: Anastasia Isaman says, "I will be the worst HoP ever and I will enjoy all the shitheads crying about it""

Posted: **Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:52 pm**

Policy about greytiding shuttles:
The shuttle cockpit on most emergency shuttles is a command-restricted area, and trespassers can be summarily ejected, arrested or assaulted as under the same stipulations as any other restricted area - executing rioters forcing their way in destructively or trespassers who fight back on trying to be ejected is fine, killing late arrivals to the shuttle if an onboard telebeacon happens to be in the cockpit without even asking them to leave first is not. The cockpit isn't special, use nuance as one would with any other restricted area.

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	Source of the above is here. Please include your sources when bringing up precedents.

Posted: **Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:02 am**

I realise it might be toeing the line of what's acceptable of my character in this situation, but I believe that due to the circumstance surrounding the murder were justifiable IC, though against space law.
I don't think that this would count as a random or poorly justifiable murder considering the IC provocation, and considering we were seconds away from reaching Centcom, I also wouldn't say that I was going out of my way to ruin this person's round.
That being said, I appreciate this warning, and understand if it isn't modified or removed.

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:28 pm**

Hey i'm busy, ill respond to this sometime later.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:39 am**

Right, sorry for the delay.
My investigation saw you banging on the bridge's windows, and then later the HoP told me they let you inside since you were handcuffed and buckled to a chair. So seeing you kill the HoP after trying to break into a room that holds nothing valuable and is commonly broken into just because.
I don't see anything wrong with the HoP using lethals on a tide of assistants going inside the bridge.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:16 pm**

I'm not saying the HoP broke any rules by using lethals on assistants. I'm saying that because IC I had a problem with that and with the later provocation/death threat by the HoP, I'd argue my violent response was justified IC.

I believe the murder wasn't random and that the situation escalated appropriately, as opposed to me breaking into the shuttle bridge and just blindly murdering the HoP, which would be tiding/RDM.

To clarify, the HoP did nothing wrong, I'm requesting that the notice is removed or modified to reflect the fact I'm not going around RDMing people :)

Posted: **Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:08 am**

I dont really think what the HoP said in dead chat matters a lot. I just think you beating the HoP while they were already in crit was too much. I could add whatever context you think is missing though

Posted: **Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:49 pm**

I included the HoP's dead chat logs because I thought it more accurately demonstrated their attitude towards the situation, but this is no longer relevant since the clarification from vect0r.

Thank you for offering to modify the note, I think a more accurate note would be:
"As a assistant, attacked the emergency shuttle bridge windows and was then let inside by the HoP, then after receiving a death threat from the HoP, killed them with a o2 tank."

I'd like some clarification on the inferred rule 1 breach? I think I've wholly explained why I think this isn't the case, and it would be nice to know what your thoughts are in more detail than it being "too much".
I think it takes a certain type of person to not kill someone who just threatened to kill you (and just killed a lot of other people in front of you) when you have the opportunity, hence why my actions seem reasonable IC.

Posted: **Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:40 am**

Belated logs because oh fuck I didn't know this
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/209742

The first fight

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05:38:02	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:04	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:05	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:06	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:31	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:33	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:35	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:37	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:39	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:40	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:45	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 47, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:49	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 47, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:50	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 47, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:54	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 46, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:55	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 46, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:56	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 46, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:38:57	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked [shuttle window] with the emergency toolbox	(115, 46, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:04	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with the laser from Emergency Shuttle (NEWHP: 96.3)	(119, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:04	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with the laser (NEWHP: 96.3)	(119, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:04	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) suffered: Third Degree Burns to head | Damage: 25 (rolled 78/90.5975) | WB: -20 | BWB: 40	(121, 51, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:09	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) stun attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with the telescopic baton (NEWHP: 71.7)	(120, 51, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:11	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shaken Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 71.9)	(120, 51, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:12	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) suffered: Joint Dislocation | Damage: 13.56 (rolled 4/38.4737) | WB: 15 | BWB: 5	(119, 50, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:12	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with telescopic baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 58.3)	(119, 51, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:14	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) stun attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with the telescopic baton (NEWHP: 58.8)	(118, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:18	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attempted to handcuff Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 59.2)	(118, 48, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
05:39:21	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) handcuffed Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 59.5)	(118, 48, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:39:24	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) grabbed Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) passive grab (NEWHP: 60)	(118, 48, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:40:18	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shoved Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 60.8)	(120, 47, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:02	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shoved Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 60.1)	(121, 48, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:28	ATTACK	ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) sprayed Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 59.8)	(120, 46, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:50	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) shoved Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) (NEWHP: 59.8)	(46, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:52	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) shoved Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with onto the reinforced table (table) (NEWHP: 59.8)	(46, 67, 14)

Interruption

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05:41:26	ATTACK	ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) sprayed Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 100)	(119, 46, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:29	ATTACK	ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) sprayed Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 100)	(120, 46, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:31	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [floor] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(118, 50, 2)	Maid Cafe
05:41:52	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: 27.2)
05:41:52	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [tactical swivel chair] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(42, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:52	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [floor] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(42, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:53	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with the laser (NEWHP: 15.8)	(42, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:53	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [floor] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(42, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:53	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with the laser (NEWHP: -3)	(42, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:41:57	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) grabbed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) passive grab (NEWHP: -16.1)	(45, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:01	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attempted to handcuff ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) (NEWHP: -16.1)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:04	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) handcuffed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) (NEWHP: -16.1)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:06	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 91)	(45, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:06	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 82)	(45, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:07	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 73)	(45, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:08	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [carpet] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:08	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: 91.5)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:08	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 67.2)	(45, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:09	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [carpet] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:09	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: 72.8)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:09	ATTACK	Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 58.2)	(45, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:09	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [carpet] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:09	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: 47.8)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:10	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at [floor] with the laser from Maid Cafe	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:10	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: 20.3)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:10	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with energy gun (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -13.3)	(44, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:11	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: -13.3)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:11	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: -13.3)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:12	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: -45.8)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:12	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: -45.8)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:12	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: -60.8)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:13	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: -60.8)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:13	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: -93.3)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:13	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: -92.8)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:13	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) fired at Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser from Maid Cafe (NEWHP: -125.3)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:14	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) shot Yoyocollector/(Xavier Mitchell) with the laser (NEWHP: -125.3)	(44, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:27	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with regenerative mesh (NEWHP: -6.1)	(45, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:28	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with regenerative mesh (NEWHP: 3.9)	(45, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:37	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with regenerative mesh (NEWHP: 13.9)	(46, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:42:39	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed ThatOneThere/(Jack Breeg) with regenerative mesh (NEWHP: 21.5)	(46, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:43:30	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with suture (NEWHP: 64)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:43:34	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with suture (NEWHP: 71.5)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:43:38	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) healed Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with suture (NEWHP: 73)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:43:53	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 66.5)	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe

Threat

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05:43:58	SAY	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) "You wanna die"	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe

Second fight:

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05:43:53	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 66.5)	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:43:59	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 60)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:00	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 53.5)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:01	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 47)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:02	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 40.5)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:02	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with energy gun (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 54.8)	(48, 65, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:02	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 34)	(47, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:03	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with energy gun (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 50.1)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:03	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.5)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:04	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 21)	(48, 66, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:04	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with energy gun (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 45.4)	(48, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:05	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 14.5)	(48, 67, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:06	ATTACK	Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) attacked Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with energy gun (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 40.7)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:06	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -51.8)	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:07	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -58.3)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:08	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -64.8)	(45, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:09	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked Virescent/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -126.6)	(46, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:10	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) attacked *no key*/(Anastasia Isaman) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -133.1)	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:16	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) is stripping *no key*/(Anastasia Isaman) of the energy gun.	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:44:21	ATTACK	Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) has stripped *no key*/(Anastasia Isaman) of the energy gun.	(47, 68, 14)	Maid Cafe
05:49:33	ATTACK	mrhang/(�Medibot) pretended to tend wounds on Subscipt/(Gall Eggburt) with internal tools (BRUTE) (EMAGGED) (NEWHP: 29.1)

Uh huh

Posted: **Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:19 am**

Subscipt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:49 pm I included the HoP's dead chat logs because I thought it more accurately demonstrated their attitude towards the situation, but this is no longer relevant since the clarification from vect0r.

Thank you for offering to modify the note, I think a more accurate note would be:
"As a assistant, attacked the emergency shuttle bridge windows and was then let inside by the HoP, then after receiving a death threat from the HoP, killed them with a o2 tank."

I'd like some clarification on the inferred rule 1 breach? I think I've wholly explained why I think this isn't the case, and it would be nice to know what your thoughts are in more detail than it being "too much".
I think it takes a certain type of person to not kill someone who just threatened to kill you (and just killed a lot of other people in front of you) when you have the opportunity, hence why my actions seem reasonable IC.

Sorry for the delay. When i say "too much" i'm referring to your coup de grace and killing the hop instead of just stopping when they got into crit. Anyways, ill just amend it to

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"As a assistant, attacked the emergency shuttle bridge windows and was then let inside by the HoP, then killed the HoP with a o2 tank when the HoP said 'You wanna die'"

Posted: **Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:16 am**

Thanks for the amendment. In hindsight, that definitely would've been a better idea. :(

Posted: **Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:32 am**

You're all good to go, sorry this took so long.

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