Thedragmeme's warning for Powergaming and Self-Antagging as an Antagonist on Manuel
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:27 pm
BYOND account: Archinist
Character name: Amira Linton
Ban type: Note
Ban length: Note
Ban reason: Note left by Thedragmeme on 2023-08-11 11:11:00
Round ID: 212265 (MRP) Self antagging/powergaming- As the RD built an armed mech(durand), then asked for the hypospray and captains medal. Afterwards had the stations Ai bolt and depower their office. This is a combination of powergaming and self antaging, do not do this again.
Time ban was placed: 2023-08-11 11:11:00
Round ID 212265, Manuel
Ok, so this HAS to be a mistake, but some further context below,
I initaited the ahelps by ahelping whether a fellow Roboticist's behaviour (I was a syndie RD) was was okay, as they'd been:
I was an actual antagonist during this round. I'd ahelped the robo's behaviour because of a former warning I received on Manuel/Campbell for similair behaviour - about 10 + months ago I'd hunted a loud, murderous antagonist down with a Gygax and killed them (They had a elite MODsuit, had murdered people, and had a desword.) I thought it was OK as the Captain had made an announcement and even encouraged vigilante action on this traitor - I was wrong.
Thus, I thought if doing the above was NOT okay on MRP, then - surely - a non-antag, non-sec Roboticist that I didn't directly threaten, or assault, or threaten their property/job even, going out of their way to use a code oversight to slap 5 tracking beacons on my mech, clearly doing it for combat purposes which is odd behavour for a civilian technician, then ignoring the evacuation shuttle in favor of making a mech EMP console in roboltics to destroy my mech when I was making my way to evacuation? I hadn't threatened anyone at this point, I'd asked the Captain to hand over the Hypospray and Captain of Medalcy with the reasoning of "There's a recall request on the Hypospray" and "A Nanotraysen Officer would like to see the Medal" which isn't super well-thought out, but then again Hyposprays in real life have run into hygiene/maintenance issues so it's not too out of the ordinary.
Thedragmeme's response was that it was totally valid for the roboticist to engage me, as I'd used content from their department (Mecha >> Robotics >> Roboticist) and therefore - perfectly valid - even though my mech was far away from Robotics at that point and I hadn't loudly acted as a destructive antagonist. (I had, however, suggested over comms that they were "constructing a harmful singulo generator in maintenance" and that the AI should "depower the maintenance APCs" to prevent them from using it (I'd assumed they'd made the EMP console in maints, not Robotics.)
At this point? Ok, sure. Valid, I guess. Rules change, or w/e. It's not incredibly realistic for your average technician to go out and hunt down terrorists in their spare time but it's a vidya game sooo... okay... I get over it.
I played another round where I was a secoff, no ahelps were shared in this round. At the end of the round, when my client had restarted I noticed Thedragmeme had left a warning for me for the reasons of "power gaming and self-antagging"... um, okay. Right.
Screenshot of admin warning:
Anything else we should know: If anyone noticed, this is a second account I've made for the forums since I wasn't able to access my original account.
Character name: Amira Linton
Ban type: Note
Ban length: Note
Ban reason: Note left by Thedragmeme on 2023-08-11 11:11:00
Round ID: 212265 (MRP) Self antagging/powergaming- As the RD built an armed mech(durand), then asked for the hypospray and captains medal. Afterwards had the stations Ai bolt and depower their office. This is a combination of powergaming and self antaging, do not do this again.
Time ban was placed: 2023-08-11 11:11:00
Round ID 212265, Manuel
Ok, so this HAS to be a mistake, but some further context below,
I initaited the ahelps by ahelping whether a fellow Roboticist's behaviour (I was a syndie RD) was was okay, as they'd been:
I was an actual antagonist during this round. I'd ahelped the robo's behaviour because of a former warning I received on Manuel/Campbell for similair behaviour - about 10 + months ago I'd hunted a loud, murderous antagonist down with a Gygax and killed them (They had a elite MODsuit, had murdered people, and had a desword.) I thought it was OK as the Captain had made an announcement and even encouraged vigilante action on this traitor - I was wrong.
Thus, I thought if doing the above was NOT okay on MRP, then - surely - a non-antag, non-sec Roboticist that I didn't directly threaten, or assault, or threaten their property/job even, going out of their way to use a code oversight to slap 5 tracking beacons on my mech, clearly doing it for combat purposes which is odd behavour for a civilian technician, then ignoring the evacuation shuttle in favor of making a mech EMP console in roboltics to destroy my mech when I was making my way to evacuation? I hadn't threatened anyone at this point, I'd asked the Captain to hand over the Hypospray and Captain of Medalcy with the reasoning of "There's a recall request on the Hypospray" and "A Nanotraysen Officer would like to see the Medal" which isn't super well-thought out, but then again Hyposprays in real life have run into hygiene/maintenance issues so it's not too out of the ordinary.
Thedragmeme's response was that it was totally valid for the roboticist to engage me, as I'd used content from their department (Mecha >> Robotics >> Roboticist) and therefore - perfectly valid - even though my mech was far away from Robotics at that point and I hadn't loudly acted as a destructive antagonist. (I had, however, suggested over comms that they were "constructing a harmful singulo generator in maintenance" and that the AI should "depower the maintenance APCs" to prevent them from using it (I'd assumed they'd made the EMP console in maints, not Robotics.)
At this point? Ok, sure. Valid, I guess. Rules change, or w/e. It's not incredibly realistic for your average technician to go out and hunt down terrorists in their spare time but it's a vidya game sooo... okay... I get over it.
I played another round where I was a secoff, no ahelps were shared in this round. At the end of the round, when my client had restarted I noticed Thedragmeme had left a warning for me for the reasons of "power gaming and self-antagging"... um, okay. Right.
Screenshot of admin warning:
Anything else we should know: If anyone noticed, this is a second account I've made for the forums since I wasn't able to access my original account.