[TheBibleMelts] JupiterJaeden - Literally 1984
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:31 pm
BYOND account: JupiterJaeden
Character name: Jeff Gaiman
Ban type: Role (security)
Ban length: 5 days
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Head of Security, security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer for 7200 minutes - Shot a clown to death for spreading Pierrot's Throat and eating a large amount of vaccine pills to try and prevent people curing themselves. Clown hadn't posed an existential or violent threat to anybody, so shooting him to death was pretty disproportinate to his crime here, but did allow the clown to be revived afterward during our PM's. Please work on fine tuning your 'should I put this man to death' meter when dealing with criminals and you'll be a real baller security player.
Time ban was placed: 2023-09-14 15:31:17
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 214583
Your side of the story: I latejoined into the round as secoff. Eventually centcom sends an announcement about "the chaplain's religion is NOT centcom approved" and I go and look and the chapel has been clownified, complete with bananium everywhere, clown monsters, honk bot and giant honk mech, and of course some actual clown players (there were multiple also). A lot of sec and cap was pretty bloodthirsty at first but I initially advocated for just leaving them alone. But eventually when we heard they were spreading disease around and attacking people, sec decided to crack down. Busted out the shotguns and lethal shells. Killed several clown monsters. At some point around here I arrested slippy jimmy non-lethally but eventually decided to let him go since I couldn't figure out exactly what he'd done among all the different people/monsters. When he was leaving I warned him and said something like "let's simplify this, if you interfere you will be killed" and he said something like "of course".
Later on when I was trying to kill one of the clown mobs in library, another clown and some guy with a HOP ID attacked me, so I shot both of them to push them back (without arresting/finishing off). At this point I won't lie I was pretty trigger happy at this point but in my eyes I was just playing my part in what was essentially a meme round made by the admins (for context, most of the round for sec was defined not by our interactions with antags but with the clown mob).
So we get the screaming on radio that a clown has taken all the vaxx pills from the pharmacy storage and eaten them all. Slippy jimmy screams on radio that it was him. So I start rushing over there trying to ask captain what we should do. Captain says "beat him up" which I took a little liberally and gunned him down in the hallway. Then I brought him to brig afterwards and after a little bit of radio chatter trying to figure out what we should do with the body I decide to get him revived. Because he is just a clown acting in his nature after all.
I later released him after he was revived, because apparently he lied and didn't actually eat ALL the vaxx pills (it was another clown who did). He wasn't even mad at me, or at least he didn't express it in-game. He left on good terms without even slipping me a final time. (the good ending)
Why you think you should be unbanned: Biblemelts talked a lot about the MRP rules on sec executions in our ticket, but a lot of those rules focus on interactions with antags; I didn't think the clown was an antag at all. Nor did I believe the clown was an existential or violent threat. I will note that in the interaction I DID actually have with an antag this round (clara the traitor), I did first stuncuff non-lethally and talk with them, eventually brigging them. Then when they tried to pull an esword on me and kill me, I responded with lethals in kind. Still revived them after that though.
But with the clowns, it was already a meme round where the admins spawned a bunch of unstunnable clown monsters (who were obviously colluding with the actual clown players) that we had no option but to shoot. Then the clowns started spreading around a disease which I presume the admins ALSO spawned. Then the same, individual clown came back after being arrested once already and decided to keep trolling (totally fair for the record, he is a clown). What happened was, frankly, just a clown being lynched for being a clown. I'm pretty damn sure medbay would have killed him if I didn't get to him first. At least they didn't sound too happy on the radio lol.
Lastly, for the record what he did under space law DOES constitutes the capital crime of Grand Sabotage (spreading viruses/sabotaging the disease response)... I know it's not policy but just throwing that out there.
tl;dr I shot the clown because I it was funny, he came back for more after already getting stopped once, and I thought it was in the spirit of what seemed to me to be a meme round. I revived him after because I wasn't really trying to take the guy out of the game. He wasn't even mad at me (sign of a true good clown player). Sure, what I did isn't super serious RP but neither is spamming clown monsters and bananium lol
References of good conduct: N/A
Anything else we should know: (literally 1984)
Character name: Jeff Gaiman
Ban type: Role (security)
Ban length: 5 days
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Head of Security, security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer for 7200 minutes - Shot a clown to death for spreading Pierrot's Throat and eating a large amount of vaccine pills to try and prevent people curing themselves. Clown hadn't posed an existential or violent threat to anybody, so shooting him to death was pretty disproportinate to his crime here, but did allow the clown to be revived afterward during our PM's. Please work on fine tuning your 'should I put this man to death' meter when dealing with criminals and you'll be a real baller security player.
Time ban was placed: 2023-09-14 15:31:17
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 214583
Your side of the story: I latejoined into the round as secoff. Eventually centcom sends an announcement about "the chaplain's religion is NOT centcom approved" and I go and look and the chapel has been clownified, complete with bananium everywhere, clown monsters, honk bot and giant honk mech, and of course some actual clown players (there were multiple also). A lot of sec and cap was pretty bloodthirsty at first but I initially advocated for just leaving them alone. But eventually when we heard they were spreading disease around and attacking people, sec decided to crack down. Busted out the shotguns and lethal shells. Killed several clown monsters. At some point around here I arrested slippy jimmy non-lethally but eventually decided to let him go since I couldn't figure out exactly what he'd done among all the different people/monsters. When he was leaving I warned him and said something like "let's simplify this, if you interfere you will be killed" and he said something like "of course".
Later on when I was trying to kill one of the clown mobs in library, another clown and some guy with a HOP ID attacked me, so I shot both of them to push them back (without arresting/finishing off). At this point I won't lie I was pretty trigger happy at this point but in my eyes I was just playing my part in what was essentially a meme round made by the admins (for context, most of the round for sec was defined not by our interactions with antags but with the clown mob).
So we get the screaming on radio that a clown has taken all the vaxx pills from the pharmacy storage and eaten them all. Slippy jimmy screams on radio that it was him. So I start rushing over there trying to ask captain what we should do. Captain says "beat him up" which I took a little liberally and gunned him down in the hallway. Then I brought him to brig afterwards and after a little bit of radio chatter trying to figure out what we should do with the body I decide to get him revived. Because he is just a clown acting in his nature after all.
I later released him after he was revived, because apparently he lied and didn't actually eat ALL the vaxx pills (it was another clown who did). He wasn't even mad at me, or at least he didn't express it in-game. He left on good terms without even slipping me a final time. (the good ending)
Why you think you should be unbanned: Biblemelts talked a lot about the MRP rules on sec executions in our ticket, but a lot of those rules focus on interactions with antags; I didn't think the clown was an antag at all. Nor did I believe the clown was an existential or violent threat. I will note that in the interaction I DID actually have with an antag this round (clara the traitor), I did first stuncuff non-lethally and talk with them, eventually brigging them. Then when they tried to pull an esword on me and kill me, I responded with lethals in kind. Still revived them after that though.
But with the clowns, it was already a meme round where the admins spawned a bunch of unstunnable clown monsters (who were obviously colluding with the actual clown players) that we had no option but to shoot. Then the clowns started spreading around a disease which I presume the admins ALSO spawned. Then the same, individual clown came back after being arrested once already and decided to keep trolling (totally fair for the record, he is a clown). What happened was, frankly, just a clown being lynched for being a clown. I'm pretty damn sure medbay would have killed him if I didn't get to him first. At least they didn't sound too happy on the radio lol.
Lastly, for the record what he did under space law DOES constitutes the capital crime of Grand Sabotage (spreading viruses/sabotaging the disease response)... I know it's not policy but just throwing that out there.
tl;dr I shot the clown because I it was funny, he came back for more after already getting stopped once, and I thought it was in the spirit of what seemed to me to be a meme round. I revived him after because I wasn't really trying to take the guy out of the game. He wasn't even mad at me (sign of a true good clown player). Sure, what I did isn't super serious RP but neither is spamming clown monsters and bananium lol
References of good conduct: N/A
Anything else we should know: (literally 1984)