[Saegrimr] Steven Griff- Sec Job ban
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:23 am
Byond account and character name:
MasterTigen- Steven Griff
Douk- Brody Mason
Banning admin:
Saegrimr (initial ban)
Niknakflak (reapplication)
Ban type (What are you banned from?):
Security Job ban
Ban reason and length:
Banned from Head of Security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer - Gulagging anybody and everybody for any sentence so long as they've ever been in the brig. Afterwards, executes five of them after a riot that nearly got him killed, one on the spot which is justifiable, one later after authorization from the HoS (without captain's authorization), and three more just for being involved. ~saegrimr [-] (permanent)
Time ban was placed (including time zone):
11/4/14 (Unsure about exact time)
6:20PM CST 7/16/15 (Reapplication by Niknakflak )
Your side of the story:
So had I dealt with this appeal closer to when it happened, this might have been a bit more of a cut-and-dry situation regardless of final outcome. However, given the amount of time that's passed in the meantime and the circumstances of having had two accounts over the years here. So I suppose it would be advisable to start from the beginning.
Initially I played under the account MasterTigen as the character Steven Griff. Time goes on, and mishaps happen here and there. Eventually, a reputation is formed among community members that I didn't feel like keeping around. Thus, after a ban on Head positions is relieved, I switched over to using a new account: Douk (maining the character Brody Mason). Only a few minor issues occur for almost a year after the switch, as was intended. After that, there were a few temporary job bannings that, admittedly were shitty on my part but I suppose not terribly relevant to this discussion. The big one came though after another half a year when, for the first time in a long while, I decided to log back on as MasterTigen. I will try and recall the situation as best as I can, it has been a while and I didn't have the logs even at the time. An incident occurred where I had taken an opportunity to utilize the gulag a bit more extensively than I would otherwise have done, resulting in all 5min and above prisoners getting sent there. Naturally, rather than working to be released on time, the large prisoner brigade (~7 of them) begins a plot to riot and escape. They execute a plan that nearly gets me killed, and I use lethal force on the scene to subdue at least one of them. Another one is captured shortly there after and I am given authorization to execute the gulag rioters (HoS gave it, though I had assumed that he had consulted the captain for his permission prior to giving it. Chain of command etc). The one rioter that was captured was then killed, and three others were brought in through the rest of the round, greeted to a similar fate (all under the continued permissions to execute those involved in the riot). I can naturally imagine that there must have been a flurry of adminhelps in this situation, and I can hardly blame Saegrimr for banning me on account that it was something of a dickish move. So, I stop playing frequently for a while. I come back, but this time on what was my main account (Douk). I had at the time assumed that the jobban on security was temporary, though I admittedly should have checked prior to switching back to the account (I had at the time assumed that it would automatically be shared due to the account association). Though after a second (but ACTUALLY temporary apparently) job ban for permabrigging a player shortly before the shuttle arrived (albeit the situation at the shuttle wouldn't have realistically allowed a prisoner to be transported in anyways), my time playing on the server began to see a slowing of activity. Honestly, it was probably for the best all things considered. Between then (in January) and now, no major incidents occur except for two minor warnings as Douk.
Today, playing as detective, Niknakflak contacted me about evasion of a job ban. Naturally I was a bit confused about the matter, but he was helpful enough to explain that MasterTigen still had a jobban on all security positions in effect and that I was ban-evading. Luckily he was kind enough not to perma-ban me on the spot, and decided to instead simply re-apply the permanent job-ban onto this account.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
I'm not going to sugar coat it. In my time on the server since either late 2010 or 2011, I've done shitty things. I think we all have to some extent, but some cases (especially the earlier ones on MasterTigen) were rather gross transgressions. Nowadays I find that I don't even enjoy playing security, which would normally nullify any purpose of making this thread. However, there is one role as of late that I have absolutely fallen in love with: Detective. All of the antag-hunting goodness of security, but none of the violence and potentially oppressive characteristics of the rest of the security team: just information and leads.
My intent with having the two accounts was made with the best intent initially. It was a chance to start over: to build myself anew and be an ideal that the old names would never let me live to be. For the most part, my conduct as Douk has been much of an improvement from old habits, and I'd like to stay on that path. If not now, maybe in time I can prove that I am worthy enough to become security again. In the meantime however, I would like to at least request the privilege of being able to be detective.
I'm sorry for all those admins who have had to deal with this over these years. I'll admit, while I haven't played all that much as of late, I have at least followed the forums here and there. I've gotten a much better respect for what you guys do, and wish that I had been more considerate and cooperative with you all in the past.
MasterTigen- Steven Griff
Douk- Brody Mason
Banning admin:
Saegrimr (initial ban)
Niknakflak (reapplication)
Ban type (What are you banned from?):
Security Job ban
Ban reason and length:
Banned from Head of Security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer - Gulagging anybody and everybody for any sentence so long as they've ever been in the brig. Afterwards, executes five of them after a riot that nearly got him killed, one on the spot which is justifiable, one later after authorization from the HoS (without captain's authorization), and three more just for being involved. ~saegrimr [-] (permanent)
Time ban was placed (including time zone):
11/4/14 (Unsure about exact time)
6:20PM CST 7/16/15 (Reapplication by Niknakflak )
Your side of the story:
So had I dealt with this appeal closer to when it happened, this might have been a bit more of a cut-and-dry situation regardless of final outcome. However, given the amount of time that's passed in the meantime and the circumstances of having had two accounts over the years here. So I suppose it would be advisable to start from the beginning.
Initially I played under the account MasterTigen as the character Steven Griff. Time goes on, and mishaps happen here and there. Eventually, a reputation is formed among community members that I didn't feel like keeping around. Thus, after a ban on Head positions is relieved, I switched over to using a new account: Douk (maining the character Brody Mason). Only a few minor issues occur for almost a year after the switch, as was intended. After that, there were a few temporary job bannings that, admittedly were shitty on my part but I suppose not terribly relevant to this discussion. The big one came though after another half a year when, for the first time in a long while, I decided to log back on as MasterTigen. I will try and recall the situation as best as I can, it has been a while and I didn't have the logs even at the time. An incident occurred where I had taken an opportunity to utilize the gulag a bit more extensively than I would otherwise have done, resulting in all 5min and above prisoners getting sent there. Naturally, rather than working to be released on time, the large prisoner brigade (~7 of them) begins a plot to riot and escape. They execute a plan that nearly gets me killed, and I use lethal force on the scene to subdue at least one of them. Another one is captured shortly there after and I am given authorization to execute the gulag rioters (HoS gave it, though I had assumed that he had consulted the captain for his permission prior to giving it. Chain of command etc). The one rioter that was captured was then killed, and three others were brought in through the rest of the round, greeted to a similar fate (all under the continued permissions to execute those involved in the riot). I can naturally imagine that there must have been a flurry of adminhelps in this situation, and I can hardly blame Saegrimr for banning me on account that it was something of a dickish move. So, I stop playing frequently for a while. I come back, but this time on what was my main account (Douk). I had at the time assumed that the jobban on security was temporary, though I admittedly should have checked prior to switching back to the account (I had at the time assumed that it would automatically be shared due to the account association). Though after a second (but ACTUALLY temporary apparently) job ban for permabrigging a player shortly before the shuttle arrived (albeit the situation at the shuttle wouldn't have realistically allowed a prisoner to be transported in anyways), my time playing on the server began to see a slowing of activity. Honestly, it was probably for the best all things considered. Between then (in January) and now, no major incidents occur except for two minor warnings as Douk.
Today, playing as detective, Niknakflak contacted me about evasion of a job ban. Naturally I was a bit confused about the matter, but he was helpful enough to explain that MasterTigen still had a jobban on all security positions in effect and that I was ban-evading. Luckily he was kind enough not to perma-ban me on the spot, and decided to instead simply re-apply the permanent job-ban onto this account.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
I'm not going to sugar coat it. In my time on the server since either late 2010 or 2011, I've done shitty things. I think we all have to some extent, but some cases (especially the earlier ones on MasterTigen) were rather gross transgressions. Nowadays I find that I don't even enjoy playing security, which would normally nullify any purpose of making this thread. However, there is one role as of late that I have absolutely fallen in love with: Detective. All of the antag-hunting goodness of security, but none of the violence and potentially oppressive characteristics of the rest of the security team: just information and leads.
My intent with having the two accounts was made with the best intent initially. It was a chance to start over: to build myself anew and be an ideal that the old names would never let me live to be. For the most part, my conduct as Douk has been much of an improvement from old habits, and I'd like to stay on that path. If not now, maybe in time I can prove that I am worthy enough to become security again. In the meantime however, I would like to at least request the privilege of being able to be detective.
I'm sorry for all those admins who have had to deal with this over these years. I'll admit, while I haven't played all that much as of late, I have at least followed the forums here and there. I've gotten a much better respect for what you guys do, and wish that I had been more considerate and cooperative with you all in the past.