[Kor] Sirnat Assistant ban

[sirnat]

Byond account and character name: Sirnat/ Nathan Ward
Banning admin: Korphaeon
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Assistant job ban
Ban reason and length: Banned for history of greytide
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 11/8/15
Your side of the story: Well, he banned me from assistant to make me play actual jobs now and its been almost a week of me playing various positions, viro mostly. I'd like to have a job to take a break from all the expectations of other jobs every now and then.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
It's been a week, I havn't been in any situations I'm pretty sure this is the longest i've gone without being bwoinked about something. I'm tired of being forced to play actual jobs 24/7 and would like the job I play to just either walk around, or spend the entire round searching for toys. I don't plan on being such a shit as I was and would greatly appreciate it.

[Tsaricide]

I'd like to have a job to take a break from all the expectations of other jobs every now and then.

It''s called clown and mime.

[sirnat]

Yeah but clown and mime mostly get shit on fnr all the time.

[Stickymayhem]

Yeah but clown and mime mostly get shit on fnr all the time.

It's almost as if when people want to do griefy shit there's some consequences

[sirnat]

Yeah but clown and mime mostly get shit on fnr all the time.

It's almost as if when people want to do griefy shit there's some consequences

I know right?

Week's long enough, not like I did anything so major for the ban to be on longer than this.


Apparently wants to deny an appeal W/O good reasoning and just saying ''Denied''

PM to-Admins: Hey, on my assistant ban appeal niknak deleted someones reply, any chance I could get a chance to see who posted and what it was? Pretty curious
Puffledicks says, "Hi"
Anna Avery begins to place the defibrillator paddles (Wielded) on Leo Pfeifer's chest.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-KorPhaeron: it was goofball shitposting also denied
Click on the administrator's name to reply.



Then this was said:

PM to-Admins: This isnt the place to talk about it being denied, if thats the case I want a headmin to judge

Not sure if this was truly ausops:
Admin PM from-Administrator: Hello I am head administration man Ausops denied
Click on the administrator's name to reply.

[imblyings]

You're arguing from the position of someone banned for banbaiting and griefing and you can still actually play and not have to do your job.

[tedward1337]

I want off this ride
Make it end pls

[sirnat]

You're arguing from the position of someone banned for banbaiting and griefing and you can still actually play and not have to do your job.

I don't banbait is the funny thing, I didn't banbait when kor assistant banned me, he only assistant banned me because I deleted RND research. He falsely called banbaiting because I ahelped talking about zoey and asking if what she did was an okay thing.

And from what i've heard grey tiding isn't against the rules so long as it isnt every round/ anything major. What I did wasn't even major when he banned me, deleting RND research at 1 minute before shuttle launched after an IC fight between me and the researcher. He didn't even speak to me about the incident, he jumped into a situation he didn't have knowledge about w/o asking for my side of the story.

Also, can anyone confirm if that was ausops that sent me the message or was it Kor trying to be sneaky.

[IrishWristWatch0]

You're arguing from the position of someone banned for banbaiting and griefing and you can still actually play and not have to do your job.

And from what i've heard grey tiding isn't against the rules so long as it isnt every round/ anything major. What I did wasn't even major when he banned me, deleting RND research at 1 minute before shuttle launched after an IC fight between me and the researcher. He didn't even speak to me about the incident, he jumped into a situation he didn't have knowledge about w/o asking for my side of the story.

Rule 1: Don't be a dick. We're all here to have a good time, supposedly. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little IC justification is against the rules. Legitimate conflicts where people get upset do happen however, these conflicts should escalate properly and retribution must be proportionate."

[sirnat]

"with little IC justification"

There was IC justifiacation, me and the person got into a serious fight. I don't go around deleting research fnr, I could understand if I did then, but it was an IC issue, not a ooc issue.

Lets also not forget, he assistant banned me for not showing fake remorse in my day ban appeal.

He also did the jobban after the day ban was over for the incident with me and the science.

[rdght91]

Fact checking:

I don't go around deleting research fnr

You did it to get "revenge" in a fight you instigated.

but it was an IC issue, not a ooc issue.

You called for an admin when you were killed, which started this whole thing. You seem to think was an OOC issue.

Lets also not forget, he assistant banned me for not showing fake remorse in my day ban appeal.

The world doesn't owe you anything even if did apologize (which you didn't), maybe you should reflect on why you're expected to show remorse rather than whine and cry.

I don't want this to skate by the admins again because nothing is more annoying as a sec player than dealing with people who beg to get their ass perma'ed and then cry to the admins.

[capi duffman]

If deleting RnD isn't banbaiting, nothing is. More than half of the scientists would go on a flying rage and kill you on the spot for that.

Also if you consider not being bwoinked in a week something admirable, your pattern of behaviour MUST improve a lot.

[sirnat]

Fact checking:

I don't go around deleting research fnr

You did it to get "revenge" in a fight you instigated.

but it was an IC issue, not a ooc issue.

You called for an admin when you were killed, which started this whole thing. You seem to think was an OOC issue.

Lets also not forget, he assistant banned me for not showing fake remorse in my day ban appeal.

The world doesn't owe you anything even if did apologize (which you didn't), maybe you should reflect on why you're expected to show remorse rather than whine and cry.

I don't want this to skate by the admins again because nothing is more annoying as a sec player than dealing with people who beg to get their ass perma'ed and then cry to the admins.

''You called for an admin when you were killed, which started this whole thing.''
I don't see how asking if what Zoey did had anything to do between me and the scientist, maybe if you'd pay more attention to the other appeal you'd know more and not talk out your ass.

[Montyblancs]

''You called for an admin when you were killed, which started this whole thing.''
I don't see how asking if what Zoey did had anything to do between me and the scientist, maybe if you'd pay more attention to the other appeal you'd know more and not talk out your ass.

You realize ahelping gets an admin to investigate the entire situation and get information from all involved, right? It's not an anonymous tip line where you just get to ask 'hey I just beat people up and deleted their work is this valid' and expect to walk away with nothing happening to you.

[lollerderby]

This ban is not going to be lifted right now and if you don't learn anything from it the next ban will be a permanent server ban.