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[Saegrimr] Banned for asking about Silicon policy

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:08 am
by Luke Cox
Byond account and character name: NocturnalQuill, Luke Cox

Banning admin: Saegrimr

Ban type (What are you banned from?): Sybil

Ban reason and length: 60 minutes

Time ban was placed (including time zone): ~1:00 AM PDT

Your side of the story: I was a scientist experimenting with freon in the test lab pen. Unbeknownst to me, there was a law stating that anyone who used freon was non-human. A borg decided to spontaneously kill me, and started to drag my body to an airlock. On his way, the laws were changed and I was now human. From what I understand, asimov silicons at the very least can't go out of their way to prevent clonable humans from being cloned. The borg and AI decided to proceed regardless. Admittedly, I was pretty salty about this. I ahelped it, and after 2-3 ahelps with no reply, Saegrimr finally said that it was allowed. This contradicted my understanding of Asimov. I asked in OOC as vaguely as I could (something to the effect of "does Asimov prevent the AI from spacing clonable corpses?). Saegrimr replied in OOC saying that he already answered my ahelp and muted OOC (which was more IC in OOC than anything I ever did). I then posted a thread in policy discussion asking whether the sort of scenario was allowed. I admit that the round was still underway, but I tried to remain as vague as possible to avoid any IC in OOC issues. Soon after, I was banned for 60 minutes for "IC in OOC"

Why you think you should be unbanned: I'm aware that the ban will probably be lifted by the time any other admins read this, but at the very least I want the note removed. I was salty, but I tried to be as respectful while dealing with Saegrimr and I went out of my way to remain as vague as possible when discussing the incident to avoid any possible IC issues (all names, professions, references to the specific round were omitted).

Re: [Saegrimr] Banned for asking about Silicon policy

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:45 am
by Saegrimr
You were banned for posting IC information about the round in progress on the forums.

You were not banned for asking a question about Silicon policy.

You do seem to be a habitual liar and should probably consult a therapist for that.

Re: [Saegrimr] Banned for asking about Silicon policy

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:50 am
by Saegrimr
Furthermore this is all that I ever said, and closing this.

HELP: NocturnalQuill/(Luke Cox): Also, to clarify, are corpses human? Do AIs have to retrieve corpses if they know where they are? - heard by 0 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
IRC PM: Saegrimr -> NocturnalQuill/(Luke Cox) : Corpses are a non-issue for asimov

Re: [Saegrimr] Banned for asking about Silicon policy

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:29 am
by peoplearestrange
I unlocked this as I feel they should be able to appeal the ban.

EDIT: However I've been told the original information was incorrect. Either you correct it here and we move on, or (as some would prefer) make a new ban appeal thread with the correct information.

Re: [Saegrimr] Banned for asking about Silicon policy

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:01 pm
by Shaps-cloud
I see no reason why this was reopened?