Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

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icecreamcohn
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Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by icecreamcohn » #160254

Your byond account: IceCreamCohn
Your character name: Kevin Owens
Their character name: Fireballs-Kills-You
Their byond account(optional, but useful if you can provide it): FOFOFO21
Server and time: Basil, 6:20ish EST
Logs and/or screenshots:

I edited out the other people to make it easier to read. Or comments of Fireballs talking about his Gang

(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You asks, "Kevin Owens you here buddy?"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "^Yo"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "Hey Kevin"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "Kevin"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens asks, "Yes?"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You asks, "Why is your dead body in library??"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "Not sure"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "I knocked your ass in the head hard"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "and tbh"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "I enjoyed every single second"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "ive been reading this https://web.archive.org/web/20091203033 ... 140942.pdf"

(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "I still dont get why you are so pissed"

(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens asks, "Did you trry to convert me fireballs?"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "No"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "Why"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "You're not worth my implant beaker"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens asks, "Whyu did you not try to convert me and just kill me?"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens asks, "So you did not even use your pen?"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "KEvin you're not worth my implant"
The monkey (393) jumps!
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "n i g g e r"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens asks, "So you just randomly killed me?"
(F) DEAD: Kevin Owens says, "Fireballs.. so you randomly killed me"
(F) DEAD: Fireball-Kills-You says, "I killed you because I can"


Description of what happened: I was in the library trying to remove cuffs and was attacked and killed by him. Now I had no implant and he did not try to pen me. He just saw me. Alone and in cuffs. I could of been easily converted in my current state and he only had two people left in his gang. No reason not to do it, When I asked in dead chat he said " I was not worth his implant and he did it because he could "

Why they should be banned: Now Fireballs and I have had a nice big fight today over a round and he is at the time of this still in supportbus waiting to talk to a headmin. about the other round.

[18:18] <FFF21> Shaps
[18:19] <%Shaps> hi
[18:19] <FFF21> Youre a headmin right

This was a clear case of Metagruding.
fofofo21
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by fofofo21 » #160258

I was one of the two remaining gang members in my gang and I killed you because you had a spray can and also people were yelling over comms you kidnapped the captain.
icecreamcohn
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by icecreamcohn » #160260

Yeah no where did I kidnap say I kidnapped the Captain.


Also the Log does not show you trying to remove something from my pockets

You attempt to remove the handcuffs... (This will take around 1 minutes and you need to stand still.)
[Common] Blake Bennett says, "Sec two cuffed people in bar"
[Common] Moses Gunther says, "SECURITY TO HOLODECK"
[Common] Blake Bennett says, "Arrest them"
Craves-The-Dark hisses, "Ugh"
Craves-The-Dark hisses, "My head"
Fireball-Kills-You hisses, "Hey Kevin"
[Common] Moses Gunther says, "We three have a gang guy trapped"
Fireball-Kills-You hisses, "Don't mind if I do"
Fireball-Kills-You has sawed Kevin Owens in the left leg with the sacred chainsaw sword!
Fireball-Kills-You has chopped Kevin Owens in the right arm with the sacred chainsaw sword!
Fireball-Kills-You has diced Kevin Owens in the head with the sacred chainsaw sword!
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by fofofo21 » #160262

I don't have logs b/c I didn't think I would need them at the time but you were handcuffed hiding in library during a gang round, my first suspicion was you were in a gang. The other gang member stripped you and found a spray can and throughout the round someone kept yelling over comms, "Kevin I'm going to find you for kidnapping the captain." Even if I did let you go, you would've joined another gang and went straight for my head.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by icecreamcohn » #160272

I just posted the log from the moment I got into the library. No one stripped me. I will gladly provide you with all the logs I have for that round.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by Pascal123 » #160330

From my perspective, the previous round was a revolution, and icecreamcohn saw it fit to declare that all non-implanted non-humans are to be killed. stating his reasoning for doing so to be due to the lack implants. Thing is, they did not even attempt to use implants anyways. But whatever, i mean... It's a revolution and culling the non-humans to prevent expenses seems fine to me personally. But this did annoy some players. Cohn and several people got in an argument about it for a bit. Since he did kill non-rev, non implanted non-humans too. and one of those players happens to be fofofo, who appeared to have taken it a little more personally than the rest. The thing is, fofofo was well within his rights to kill Kevin as, he was a gang lieutenant. And antags can do whatever they want anyways, barring some things. And, he just distributed a little bit of kevins own medicine by stating that he 'wasn't worth the implant breaker.' and effort to recruit.

Maybe once they start killing eachother as nonantags for reasons such as contempt. Then someone should post about it here...

But really guys, both of you need to calm down about this... Something so petty as that is not worth trying to get eachother banned over... You're both respectable and reasonable players on bagil. It'd be a shame to lose either of you over something as simple as that.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by lzimann » #160369

Edit: Pharsing it better: As antag you ARE allowed to kill anyone you want(unless it is a team kill then it's bad etc).
Last edited by lzimann on Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by icecreamcohn » #160403

Okay thanks.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by oranges » #160557

resolved
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by Shaps-cloud » #160577

icecreamcohn wrote:[18:18] <FFF21> Shaps
[18:19] <%Shaps> hi
[18:19] <FFF21> Youre a headmin right
wait im confused why am i here
P.S. Shoot Dr. Allen on sight and dissolve his body in acid. Don't burn it.
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Re: Meta-grudging - Fireballs-kill-you

Post by onleavedontatme » #163077

FNR is being closed down, resolved.
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