Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

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Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Mono » #13999

Your byond account: Mon0
Your character name: Landon Fryer
Their character name: Trevor Donklestoop
Their byond account: N/A
Server and time: Artyom 1:06 p.m EST
Logs and/or screenshots:
Spoiler:
*---------*
This is Khloe Alice!
She is wearing a grey jumpsuit.
She has a satchel on her back.
She has PDA-Khloe Alice (Assistant) about her waist.
She is wearing some black shoes on her feet.
She has a lit premium cigar on her face.
She has a radio headset on her ears.
She is wearing Khloe Alice's ID Card (Assistant).
She has a vacant, braindead stare...
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Current Admins:

Landon Fryer [145.9] asks, "any objections to going home?"
Landon Fryer asks, "any objections to going home?"
Priority Announcement


The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:

Snoozefest/Crew Transfer


You put the handcuffs into the captain's satchel.
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " Crew do you agree to this transfer"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] asks, " Yes no deny?"
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "I already asked and nobody answered"
Landon Fryer says, "I already asked and nobody answered"
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "I assume they are all braindead or dead"
Landon Fryer says, "I assume they are all braindead or dead"
Spoiler:
Trevor Donklestoop [Command] says, "Omnomnomnom xray lasers"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Help"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " Where"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " I appear to be in brig"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " After my sweet ass nap"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " On my way"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " Khloe to HOP desk"
You put the glass into the captain's satchel.
You put the cable coil into the captain's satchel.
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] exclaims, " Khloe!"
You put the donut box into the captain's satchel.
You fire the energy gun!
Trevor Donklestoop is hit by an electrode in the head!
Landon Fryer is trying to put handcuffs on Trevor Donklestoop!
Landon Fryer says, "Found your console"
Poly [Engineering] says, "Poly wanna cracker!"
The cigarette machine beeps, "Smoke!"
ÿ!Trevor Donklestoop is buckled in to the chair by Landon Fryer!
Trevor Donklestoop attempts to unbuckle themself!
You try to empty Trevor Donklestoop's left pocket.
You try to empty Trevor Donklestoop's right pocket.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's PDA-Trevor Donklestoop (Head of Personnel).
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's energy gun.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's satchel.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's Night Vision Security HUD.
You put the energy gun into the captain's satchel.
The captain's satchel is full, make some space.
You put Night Vision Security HUD into the captain's satchel.
Landon Fryer blinds Trevor Donklestoop with the flash!
You put the flash into the captain's satchel.
Trevor Donklestoop attempts to unbuckle themself!
Spoiler:
Trevor Donklestoop says, "Help"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " Khloooeeee"
Trevor Donklestoop says, " Khloooeeee"
Jazmin The Kitty says, "Eh... what"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Hi"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Whats up"
Landon Fryer says, "Hes been demoted"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " I made xray lasers so he arrested me"
Trevor Donklestoop says, " I made xray lasers so he arrested me"
Jazmin The Kitty asks, "What did he do?"
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's ÿthe head of personnel's headset.
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " WHAT THE FUCK"
Trevor Donklestoop says, "I did my job"
Trevor Donklestoop says, "Aswell as the RD and miners"
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "I arrested him for recalling constantly"
Landon Fryer says, "I arrested him for recalling constantly"
Landon Fryer says, "good for you"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Also the medibortg was dead in clown planet"
Trevor Donklestoop exclaims, " I was too bosy mining to recall!"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " If anyone was wondering whta ahppened to it"
Jazmin The Kitty [145.9] says, "Poor borg"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Let Trevor go"
Landon Fryer says, "Maybe you should consult me before deciding to recall on your own"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " He is my ally."
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "He's not even brigged"
Landon Fryer says, "He's not even brigged"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " And rescued me from the holding room"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Oh"
You put PDA-Trevor Donklestoop (Head of Personnel) into the captain's satchel.
You put PDA-Trevor Donklestoop (Head of Personnel) into the box.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's armor vest.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's toolbelt.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's head of personnel's jumpsuit.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's head of personnel's jumpsuit.
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " Also recall, I got a load of sweet ass bananium"
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's jackboots.
Landon Fryer tries to remove Trevor Donklestoop's insulated gloves.
Trevor Donklestoop says, "Ahh"
Trevor Donklestoop exclaims, "Being molested!"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " And my fun overwrites everyone elses."
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "then i suggest you work quick"
Landon Fryer says, "then i suggest you work quick"
Landon Fryer says, "Oh look"
Trevor Donklestoop says, "Help Jazmin"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " But work is hard."
Trevor Donklestoop says, "I am being sexually abused"
Landon Fryer says, "Ian gets to come along"
Trevor Donklestoop was unbuckled by Landon Fryer!
Jazmin The Kitty says, "Aww, poor babby"
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " And I'm extremely lazy."
ÿ!Trevor Donklestoop is buckled in to the chair by Landon Fryer!
Runtime shakes its head.
ÿLandon Fryer has thrown Night Vision Security HUD.
Landon Fryer says, "Here"
Trevor Donklestoop attempts to unbuckle themself!
Landon Fryer says, "you can have that"
Landon Fryer [145.9] says, "a shame"
Landon Fryer says, "a shame"
Did I mention Jazmin was the traitor and she was assigned to kill Trevor?
Spoiler:
The ÿM1911 is too big for this the box.
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " FUCK YOU CAPTAIN"
You put the flash into the box.
You put the ÿM1911 into the captain's satchel.
Khloe Alice [145.9] exclaims, " HE'S GOT A GUN!"
Trevor Donklestoop starts climbing into the disposal unit.
Trevor Donklestoop climbs into the disposal unit.
Landon Fryer sighs.
Jazmin The Kitty [145.9] asks, "Who has?"
Trevor Donklestoop has pushed Landon Fryer!
Khloe Alice [145.9] says, " The captain"
Khloe Alice says, "Honk"
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun point blank at Landon Fryer!
Landon Fryer is hit by an electrode in the chest!
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
Landon Fryer is hit by a laser in the chest!
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
Landon Fryer is hit by a laser in the right leg!
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
Landon Fryer is hit by a laser in the chest!
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
Landon Fryer is hit by a laser in the right arm!
Khloe Alice says, "WHOA"
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
Landon Fryer is hit by a laser in the chest!
Trevor Donklestoop fires the energy gun!
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
Landon Fryer whispers in their final breath, "Assisting ... tators is bad..."
Jazmin The Kitty says, "Trevor, I'll take care of that"
Spoiler:
The OOC channel has been globally enabled!
P.U.R.R (Played by: KotMroku) was unable to survive the rigors of being a cyborg without an AI. Its laws were:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

The traitors were:
Thunder12345 was Jazmin The Kitty (survived) (used 5 TC)
Objective #1: Assassinate Trevor Donklestoop, the Head of Personnel. Fail.
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive. Success!
The traitor has failed!

Jazmin The Kitty unbuckled !
Bill Bedd unbuckled !
ÿ!Restarting in 25 seconds
Description of what happened: I latejoined as cap and wandered around the station for a bit. There were only 8 people on and of them it appeared that the bartender and medborg were the only people who weren't braindead. I asked the crew if there were any objections to a shuttle call and got no answer. Trevor also asked if there were any objections to the call. I call and the shuttle gets recalled. I call again and it gets recalled. I get a message over the command channel from trevor talking about xray lasers. As he appears to be the only person with head level access I head over to the science wing and spot him leaving. I look around and find his comms console, then proceed to arrest him and call the shuttle again. I strip him of his stuff and shove him in the sec checkpoint before going to rnd to see if his bragging about doing rnd so well was true(if he was telling the truth I was gonna consider releasing him). I leave and see him running up the hall (turns out he had given Khloe Alice what I assume was all-access and she had released him). I chase him and corner him, he disarms me when I pull my gun to stun him and he proceeds to stun and laser me to death as khloe sits and watches. Round end antag list comes up and neither him or khloe are antags.
Why they should be banned: Non-antag murder ain't cool when your the one who provoked the response. Constantly recalling the shuttle is sure to cause someone to get mad at you and killing them when they haven't used any kind of lethal force is pretty shit.
Spoiler:
Mono was Sweeny Thyme (survived)
Objective #1: Make an example out of those who would harm the station's innocent animals. Success!
Objective #2: Do not kill them. Success!
The traitor was successful!

DEAD: ADMIN(Scaredofshadows) says, "assistants are to space stations as badgers are to the animal kingdom"
DEAD: ADMIN(Scaredofshadows) says, "too many badgers and they'd take over the world"


OOC: Arkire: Wizards, please obey the wizardly bushido code of honour in the future, so as to avoid hurting the feelings of the people you're allowed - and encouraged - to kill. I suggest falling on your staff and being impaled in order to appease them
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Alzam » #14003

I sat and watched because I didn't feel like getting murdered by interfering and Trevor told me you naked buckle cuffed him for having an x-ray gun, and also wasted all the ore he brought on guns. (I was not aware he was the shuttle recaller since I was braindead for most of the round, Trevor was also the only person who bothered to rescue me from the holding cell where i was dumped off for being braindead). Jazmin emagged the office open which is how I got him out, he didn't give me access or anything at any point. I even said to heal and cuff you because I thought him shoving your body down disposals would be lame, I was even heading back to the sec checkpoint to get handcuffs when Jazmin mentioned you having an explosive personality on comms (and given she was a traitor I assume this meant she C4'd you) and the shuttle docked so I just said whatever and boarded.

For anyone wondering why I said "FUCK YOU CAPTAIN" in the logs, that was when I passed him in the hallway because I asked him to recall the shuttle since I came back with a bunch of bananium and he told me to do it myself. It wasn't when he was getting lasered to death even though the logs make it seem that way. I didn't want the captain killed or gibbed even if I was annoyed at him.

EDIT: I am not defending or justifying Trevor's actions though, since I was absent most of the round, just giving reasons for my personal actions.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Braindude » #14006

im providing the byond account

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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by KingLouisXIV » #14007

Pretty sure Ivanissaccs plays Trevor Donklestoop.


Trevor Donklestoop says, "Ahh"
Trevor Donklestoop exclaims, "Being molested!"
Trevor Donklestoop says, "I am being sexually abused"


This is unacceptable behavior in of itself.

From a (proper) meta standpoint, the Captain's word is often law, and if he's the proper Captain his word is infallible. It was pretty dickish of Trevor to be constantly recalling from (what I assume was) a hidden console as a non-antagonist. If this were brought up in-game I'd likely offer a warning to Trevor for the culmination of his actions, at the very least.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Ivan Issaccs » #14023

Round start HOP.
Set up engine.
Max research levels.
Go mining.
Captain arrives and calls the shuttle for what was the reason "Boring shift crew transfer" or something?
So I recall it twice? Maybe three times.
Sat in my office, Captain walks in, tases, cuffs and strips, drags me around for nearly ten minutes that way. In the end he leaves me buckle cuffed in the sec checkpoint and the crew bust me out.
Walking around naked, the Cap starts chasing me with an e-gun, disarm him, tase back and laser into crit because god damn it I'm naked and don't have cuffs. He succumbs almost immediately.
Take his clothes because I'm naked and drag him into medbay and try to clone him, he refuses, I say fuck it and leave while everyone else is happy that the shitler Captain got lynched.

Its extreme to kill a Captain I know but if he hadn't A. Succumbed like a crybaby who got dunked by a man in his underwear or B. Just accepted cloning then he could have continued on in the three minutes left of that round.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Mandurrrh » #14025

I was observing this round. So was Kraso if you want to get another view point. Captain printed off a ton of guns from RnD after the other members did all the work then called the shuttle saying everyone was braindead when no one was braindead? He fucked with Trevor quite a bit and then Trevor got the better of him. You can see that in the logs and we saw it too. I agree with KingLouis that captain is the law but if the captain is pushing someone around and ruining around for all crew members he has to expect the person hes fucking with to be able to retaliate. I think they were both in the wrong but more so Captain was mad he got robusted by a naked man. I know from observing it was general consensus that captain was out of line and being a condom. And Ive seen them over thrown many times. Also he whispered in his death that helping a traitor was bad but from observing the round there was no inclination that Trevor was aware Jazmin was an antag. You'll have to have her come to confirm. Anyways thats my view from observing the round so just wanted to contribute since there were only a few of us on.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Alzam » #14030

I was also in that round and Trevor said that said person beat him into crit for taking the plasteel to repair hull damage. Either way this is kind of irrelevant to the case at hand.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Facundo » #14032

Is relevant when there is an antecent, besides, it's only a request of investigation, I don't believe either the atmos tech, you, trevor on kenzie on what happened, but something had, and the logs will tell, even if he was justified on his actions, the truth is that this whole morning group is closing the doors and ganking on whorever is not of their clique.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Mandurrrh » #14038

Facundo wrote:Is relevant when there is an antecent, besides, it's only a request of investigation, I don't believe either the atmos tech, you, trevor on kenzie on what happened, but something had, and the logs will tell, even if he was justified on his actions, the truth is that this whole morning group is closing the doors and ganking on whorever is not of their clique.
Yes please pull logs. That atmos tech was telling captain I tried to kill them from my autism fort. I watched him give her maybe 3 drinks of wine telling her to cool down after she flipped out over comms because the plasteel was used for breach. I think they said exactly 'DO I LOOK LIKE I GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU USED TO FOR IM GOING TO BASH YOUR FUCKING FACE IN' Anyways thats irrelevant to this thread because its a different round. Unless you were the captain and atmos tech and you think its was griefing from a previous round?
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Ivan Issaccs » #14039

The Atmos tech threatened to kill me over the radio, threatening to bash in my skull as I used engineering's plasteel to repair R-walls broken by a blob. They got fed wine, given a swirly and let on their way rather than a brig sentence I didn't want to sit and watch over.
However if were going to jump on the spurious steno straw grasping band wagon.
Halp! Trevor killed the entire server population during traitor! He could have just tased and locked people into 1x1 cells but he didnt what a shitler!
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Edit...
Alzam wrote:I was also in that round and Trevor said that said person beat him into crit for taking the plasteel to repair hull damage. Either way this is kind of irrelevant to the case at hand.
Fairly sure I never said they beat me, just that they threatened to kill me. I know the Atmos tech told everyone that would listen that I tried to kill them.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Mandurrrh » #14045

Facundo wrote:Today on a different round there were reports of Trevor arresting and forcefeeding wine an atmos tech until it developed Appendicitis, becouse she threatened him over plasteel. I raised an adminhelp with the details to leave it as investigation in case he wasn't antag, wich, surprise, he wasn't.

Kenzie, I understand you and your gang enjoy playing at lowpop times without admins and running things, but you guys should cool it off, the three of you are getting more and more aggresive lately, and it's ruining the game for everybody

Oh fuck yes I have a gang!! I didn't even see this!! Im waiting on sailormoon outfit sprites and then its on.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Alzam » #14046

Ivan Issaccs wrote:The Atmos tech threatened to kill me over the radio, threatening to bash in my skull as I used engineering's plasteel to repair R-walls broken by a blob. They got fed wine, given a swirly and let on their way rather than a brig
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Alzam wrote:I was also in that round and Trevor said that said person beat him into crit for taking the plasteel to repair hull damage. Either way this is kind of irrelevant to the case at hand.
Fairly sure I never said they beat me, just that they threatened to kill me. I know the Atmos tech told everyone that would listen that I tried to kill them.

That was my bad, I didn't mean to spread misinformation. I just misremembered what you said.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Ivan Issaccs » #14048

Nah its cool, I know the atmos tech told every head of staff and security that joined the round that I tried to kill them after they arrived so I'm guessing it came from that.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Mono » #14068

Mandurrrh wrote:I was observing this round. So was Kraso if you want to get another view point. Captain printed off a ton of guns from RnD after the other members did all the work then called the shuttle saying everyone was braindead when no one was braindead? He fucked with Trevor quite a bit and then Trevor got the better of him. You can see that in the logs and we saw it too. I agree with KingLouis that captain is the law but if the captain is pushing someone around and ruining around for all crew members he has to expect the person hes fucking with to be able to retaliate. I think they were both in the wrong but more so Captain was mad he got robusted by a naked man. I know from observing it was general consensus that captain was out of line and being a condom. And Ive seen them over thrown many times. Also he whispered in his death that helping a traitor was bad but from observing the round there was no inclination that Trevor was aware Jazmin was an antag. You'll have to have her come to confirm. Anyways thats my view from observing the round so just wanted to contribute since there were only a few of us on.
2 guns is a shitload? I printed off one gun that I hadn't seen before and another due to curiosity about the fact incendiary ammo was now a thing you could make. The whisper was a reference to Khloe appearing to help the HoP, but from reading their post I can understand their actions. Also >ruining a round for all crewmembers.
Landon Fryer [145.9] asks, "any objections to going home?"
Trevor Donklestoop [145.9] says, " Crew do you agree to this transfer"
I'm not mad that I got got by a naked man. I'm mad that the HoP thought it was ok to casually kill me when the shuttle call was completely valid. Instead of building a hidden console and getting his rocks off on recalling it would have taken all of 5 seconds to start up a conversation over the command channel or general and argue for the shuttle to remain uncalled. It would have been even more persuasive given the fact that people were joining in(the end round player count was 12 and in the next round it had jumped to 20). I'll wait for an official admin decision on this, but still non-antag murder is really only cool if someone makes the attempt to kill you first.
Spoiler:
Mono was Sweeny Thyme (survived)
Objective #1: Make an example out of those who would harm the station's innocent animals. Success!
Objective #2: Do not kill them. Success!
The traitor was successful!

DEAD: ADMIN(Scaredofshadows) says, "assistants are to space stations as badgers are to the animal kingdom"
DEAD: ADMIN(Scaredofshadows) says, "too many badgers and they'd take over the world"


OOC: Arkire: Wizards, please obey the wizardly bushido code of honour in the future, so as to avoid hurting the feelings of the people you're allowed - and encouraged - to kill. I suggest falling on your staff and being impaled in order to appease them
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Rancereya » #14080

I was observing around the time, and I noticed the Layton had Trevor cuffed to a chair, completely stripped before printing off a submachinegun and 1911.

Objectively the shitlerist thing to do.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by allura » #14182

hi! i was the actual atmos tech. idk what's going on here but mandurrh wanted me to post o_o
i threatened to bash in the skull of whoever took the plasteel from engineering and was arrested by trevor.
he took me to kenzie's autism fort where he fed me a bottle of wine or maybe 2? idk but it was a lot because i was falling over gagging every few seconds
then he took me and swirlied me until i had maybe 10 hp? it was red and i was very slow. then he told me to fuck off. that's all i know o_o
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Whispery Breezes » #14255

I was the doctor who treated Dolores the shift that Facundo33 is referring to. There were only like, six or seven of us on to begin with. I can confirm that Dolores (Allura) was walking near the science corridor with orange health. I would also love to mention to Facundo33 that appendicitis has no direct correlation to alcoholism neither in ss13 nor real life; it was simply an RNG spawning coincidence, as the only thing that will occur when you drink too much in the game is poisoning yourself with toxins. I suggest that if you feel so strongly about someone else's beating, you make a separate ban request for him instead of making this one about yourself and people you seem to have some personal issue with; it's not exactly appropriate of you to bring people into someone else's ban request and accuse them of being in some "gang" you've conjured up. Finally, I would like to mention that antecedents (not "antecents") have no place in a ban request; these situations are handled individually and accusing others of something you were not present for is not only ridiculous but also completely superfluous.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Facundo » #14271

No, whisp, I don't have a personal issue with anybody, and I really don't need to ad nominem to make my point, but I posted that since there was an incident the same day that shows that Ivan seemed upset with something, and it might or not be related, that's why I asked for the admins to read the adminhelps, since I lack the knowlodge to know if they read all adminhelps made or just those that we point here in FNR.
On the clique thing, I am pissed off that every time something happens the same people come to attack and defend like a group of wolves, even when they know they are not right, and they even harass people togeder, the only thing I can do to these people is to ASK to tone it down, really, guys, and mandurh, tis is a game to have fun, not to make your little circle and mock the rest.

I am merely waiting for the admins to either give me or the implicated people a warning for congruent reasons, instead I had been listening to every single one of you parading and telling me that you are totally not a group.

The thing is this, Ivan killed the captain without proper justification as a non antag and as a head, that's mono request, I added that the same day on an small span of time he was also the HoP and also had shitty behaviour, and there was an adminhelp about it while there were no admins, furthermore, this behaviour persisted. Am I issuing a ban? no, I am asking you guys to chill the fuck out and just play the game, and when those dickish urges attack, eat some chocolate instead.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by allura » #14282

whispery, i was down to red health after being swirlied. i treated myself later on and then my health gradually decayed to orange from appendicitis, then i came to you
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Timbrewolf » #14298

20 posts and no admin comment?

This sounds like one of those shitty IC situations that flares up because everyone is too bigheaded to actually stop and talk about what's going on and why they want to do X thing instead of Y thing. Then yes naturally someone ends up getting lasered/stripped/spaced/turned into hamburgers/etc.

So as a baseline we should all agree that everyone is retarded. It becomes a question of who is MORE retarded, or potentially even MOST retarded.

Do you guys really want to fight over that crown or can you hike up your big kid pants and maybe just admit that "hey wow we both acted like total jackasses about this"?

I'd rather not be the one to referee this idiot slapmatch but it seems like nobody else wants to (FOR OBVIOUS REASONS) and I aint got shit to do.

For what it's worth the Captain seemed to be the one leading the idiot dance with his apparently frivolous shuttle calls. On the other hand, it's part of his job to decide when everyone is supposed to go. It doesn't look like he had a good reason to be abandoning the station, but there are better ways to negotiate that then repeatedly hitting the secret uplink you've built in your office.

If you want to look at this strictly by the book, the Captain has the right to call the shuttle and forcefully demote someone for refusing to comply with what he's trying to do. Even if it is completely stupid.

...but as it turns out, if most of the crew thinks he's a moron and fosters a mutiny, which it kinda looks like happened, it's well within the spirit of the game to drag him down and replace him with your own authority. Again, there are better ways to do this than exchanging laser bolts in the halls but like I said before if you guys could manage the whole X/Y communication thing we wouldn't have this wonderful conversation.

The bottomline is it's one of those shitty IC escalation scenarios that makes everyone shake their heads and wonder if we shouldn't extend the waiting period for head positions beyond the 30 days we have. However many days you guys have been playing +1. I can't say it enough, you're both dumb that this happened.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Ivan Issaccs » #14330

I cant remember if I recalled the shuttle twice or three time, the first was after I was mining, had to cut it short to come back and do it from my office, either the second or the last time I was working in science and built one a comms console to do it from there.
Anyway your right, the whole situation was retarded, I was mad that some unknown Captain late joined the round and made his first action to call the shuttle after I spent so much time setting up the station to run smoothly hence me saying fuck it and recalling myself. Your also right that he's got every right to brig or demote me which is just shit that happens but instead I was dragged around the station naked for the best part of ten minutes on a roller chair while being flashed and batoned before being freed by the rest of the crew.
I didn't go hunting the Captain down, I was completely naked and slow as shit, he chased me with the e-gun and on account of being naked I didn't have much options in the way of defending myself or restraining the man the crew said was printing off more guns and even then I'm pretty damn certain that he succumbed and more certain he refused cloning.
Either way, I don't make a habit of killing people for arresting me and wouldn't have here if I was in a better position to restrain him, run off or generally avoid another ten minutes tied to a chair.
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Re: Trevor Donklestoop - Nonantag Murder

Post by Antonkr » #14541

To be honest, I can understand Trevor's actions here, agreeing with an0n3 here, this is all IC.
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