/tg/Station 13

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Skorvold wrote:A fine administrator in almost all respects. Almost. He needs to work a bit more on his politeness and patience with players and learn to put his dislike of them aside. I understand that I am one to talk, as my temper has gotten the better of me in the past. Especially earlier this day. Please learn to be more patient with others, I understand how stressful it can be and how easy it is to get angry at people be ignorant in adminpms, but we should try our best to assume a very "customer service" view on things.

Oh I was being ignorant in my ahelps? Thats why he taunted me and put me down for being upset? Oh in that case. I apologize for my ignorance. Please continue humiliating players coming to you for help as long as you don't like them and they are 'ignorant'. Just like the player you were trashing in ded yesterday about how much you hated them and then banned them the next round for one of the most common minor offenses. As long as niknak doesn't like you he's allowed to abuse his power and treat players poorly. Loud and clear.

I find him to be a decent player and a rather quirky admin. I've only ever had to ahelp him once for anything serious, but any time a minor thing comes up he's usually pretty good about it. He's active in making extended rounds interesting and smiting me for my wrongdoings as latenight greytide. If there's anyone I can trust to make rounds more interesting than my usual powerplaying regime of 'Insulated gloves: get,' 'All access: get,' and 'Find someone to have a (de)constructive roundlong back and forth with:get' it's Niknak.

Also once he was my baby and lived inside my belly for a round as I became the hero the station deserved, and then he burst from my stomach in nature's first automated C-section.

And he was my conscience one time when I was a traitor, silently berating me for spontaneous acts of murderbone.

And shame pug.

But through all of this, he never really impacted the round more than making me scramble around the station searching for my lost sides.

terrible

0/10

I don't even know where that feedback comes from, my administration time has been extremely limited and the only interaction with you recently is when you called me a faggot in Adminhelp amd then logged when I was idling on the server and log diving.

NikNakFlak wrote:I don't even know where that feedback comes from, my administration time has been extremely limited and the only interaction with you recently is when you called me a faggot in Adminhelp amd then logged when I was idling on the server and log diving.

terrible

0/10

A nice guy, but God he hates anything fun.

Extremely good at handling the database.
A little cautious and timid when it comes to destructive badminnery, but he knows how to make harmless fun for the players. Very polite and professional at all times.
Seems to be very level headed, and doesn't seem to let emotions get in the way of judgments.
Would make a great headmin.

gave me nice advice about how to apprentice as a first-timer (well, as a wizard/apprentice anyway) advice was helpful, pertinent and voluminous

i fucked it up anyway and died early on lynched by 20 people after mindswapping captain but it was fun anyway :^)

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I sited the exact reasons for the feedback on vekter, including specific examples.
Any interactions you have had with on the server, the one most recently I can remember dealing with that warden, were completely professional.
If you could please provide examples of these claims I could see the validity of your points. If not, then I don't.

rdght91 wrote:Rude to players, rude to fellow admins (ie the feedback for Vektor, totally hyperbolic, emotional and not constructive), not very mature (is he even 18? Why is he even allowed to play much less moderate?), often insults people in arguments, in the examples I've seen he deletes posts in forum discussions only if they disagree with him, believes himself to be the paragon of "professional" conduct despite being by an incredible margin the least "professional."

I'm not really mad at Nik, and while I appreciate that people are standing up for me, it's not necessary.

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All of your statements are like opinions. If he improves, I don't see how it's useless. Your only example you have showed me is my feedback on vekter's thread which is perfectly warranted and simply your opinion. I'm probably going to disregard your feedback completely. V(o_o)V

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That is basically what I'm doing. I don't believe in the feedback you provided me so I'm ignoring it. Simple as that.

Over moderates.
"In my opinion"

Take it how you will, but even if it's not your intent, and you are honestly just trying to enforce the rules as you see them, it does look like you moderate based on your own opinions, while at the same time disregarding differing opinions, Looks bad bro.

No hostility though, Better you than nobody I guess, so thanks for trying to keep shit on point.

Could you provide examples of this so I know what you are referring to?
Specific threads, and such?
That would help me identify the problem and rectify it.

Kinda hard to cite deleted examples, but I'll try
A big one I recall off the top of my head was the SAC incident Old forums, where he slung insults, you returned, then shut down the conversation over a deleted thread, then a similar engagement in OOC as with the next one with tunder

And when you muted OOC after engaging in debate with tunder over validity of old polls you then muted him.

Pretty sure there was a very similar one with terbs before that one, something in watercooler? I honestly can't recall specifics, but I remember vaguely a questionable trash can of one of his threads, then him flipping out.

It's like a pattern, perhaps in the future when you feel you might seem to have a personal stake in a moderation activity you could consider getting someone else to take a look at it. because it's vaguely locked in my mind that arguing with you leads to deleted messages.

...............................................
You are citing two year old examples here? What the hell?
I already even made up with SAC and terbs over those incidents and we both admitted we did some wrong.
Even I admit I over-moderated during that time, but that was.... 2 years ago. On the Erro forums, those were darker times.
How can you even cite those as examples?
The Tunder thing was stupid and an admin complaint was made over it and it was discussed already.

Meh, It's a series of similar events, Like I said, not exactly easy to provide instances of over moderation, as it's deleted. I can only go with what I've seen and recall off the top of my head, and that's that you have a pattern of behavior of ending arguments with moderation.

Take it in, or leave it, I'm not gonna argue it with you, these are my findings, And it being two years ago is neither here nor there if you continue to do it, which between the tunder thing, and with what rdght already covered seems to be the case.

From my point of view he's a pretty good administrator. He helps out, always pitches in and is a all around nice guy. Everything else is moot. Forum disagreements and drama is something else to be handled by head admins or through the admin complaints I believe.

Could be wrong about that though.

As I have said before in a few places, NikNak is the King of detectives.
His sweeps and organisation of the ban database is un-rivalled. If we still had such a role I would nominate them for head of bans.


"I don't know who you are. I don't know why you were banned. If you are looking for pity, I can tell you I don't have pity. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career of admining. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you take the ban, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you." - NikNakFlak

Does his job well. Isn't afraid to speak his mind.

Oh gosh, if I give him nice feedback, will he forget about the toilet murder?

Professional who does it for free, what isn't to like

keep up the good work.

My interactions with him have been good all round.

Good job mang.

Quoting himself in his forum signature.

Therefore, slowly succumbing to administrative egomania.

I didn't make that quote though. Some other admin did. It was a joke as IF I said it, when I really didn't

And it's hilarious.

DemonFiren wrote:Quoting himself in his forum signature.

Therefore, slowly succumbing to administrative egomania.

The original was literally 4 posts above yours xP

>implying anyone scrolls up

NikNak is pretty awesome, Always friendly and went to a good bit of trouble to help me out last night.

NikNakFlak is very dedicated and hardworking, and he often volunteers to look up logs for lazy admins.

Refuses to give me permanent catgirl, threatens me with insults such as 'Dryer Sheets' and 'Deturgent'.
I recommend a hug, slap and then a firm finger wag.

(He's okay, if a little bit too chatty. 8.5/10. Where's my catgirl status, you cuck.)

Turgent wrote:Refuses to give me permanent catgirl

You're asking the wrong admin for that~.

DemonFiren wrote:Quoting himself in his forum signature.

Therefore, slowly succumbing to administrative egomania.

I think it's the mark of a great man.

Deleted some threads in FNR Trash such that I can't make the little orange bubbles turn back to grey.

Is otherwise a fine admin.

newfren wrote:Deleted some threads in FNR Trash such that I can't make the little orange bubbles turn back to grey.

Is otherwise a fine admin.

From the main page theres a "make all forums read" which should fix that. If not then ┐('～`；)┌

There's one of those buttons in every forum and subforum just click it there.

Very helpful with /vg/-tg things.

makes a man go doot doot.

keep up the good work

People give him a lot more shit than he deserves because he doesn't come off as personable but he does a lot of testing and investigating that no one else would do, and he's recently IMO become one of the best admins. Sorry for the drama in the past.

tried to tell me how to play rev.

whisper niknakflak.

This weirdo follows me around in OOC, the forums and GitHub and either shits in my mouth or uses his inexplicable forum powers to close my threads prematurely.

Not even sure why he has a grudge against me, I've never shat on him before. He's like 12 years old in SS13 terms, irrelevant, and acts underage.

Please point out threads I have closed prematurely.
other than that
>Implying I give a fuck about your opinion and your "he s-stalks me because he's weird n-not because i'm s-shit"

The first syllables of stalks and shit are st and sh, NikNak
Also thank you for admitting to stalking me
And here

But why do you think I'm shit? And why do you stalk me in particular, when I doubt I'm the only player you consider shit? That's what I don't get. I never did anything to you to provoke this response. I think you showed up after I stopped playing, so it's an odd grudge to have. If I was still playing, you were just one of those names under adminwho who was unrecognisable.

Oh, after re-reading my first sentence, it reads like my feelings are hurt that NikNakFlak could think I was shit. Don't worry about it, I'm just genuinely confused by what your beef is.

Not to get too heavily into this because this isn't a formal complaint, but that thread wasn't really closed prematurely, I should have locked it after my post honestly

Amnestik, Shaps had given a verdict on the thread, calling it a lack of/miscommunication, Niknak simply closed it.

If you have a SPECIFIC complaint (other than He's stalking me!) about Niknakflak please make a complaint thread on the appropriate board.

Shaps wrote:Not to get too heavily into this because this isn't a formal complaint, but that thread wasn't really closed prematurely, I should have locked it after my post honestly

Your decision was premature and showed a lack of understanding of the situation

Ahammer18 wrote:Amnestik, Shaps had given a verdict on the thread, calling it a lack of/miscommunication, Niknak simply closed it.

As part of his pattern of following me around and undermining me, which he actually accidentally admitted to on the previous page