/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:30 am**

Bottom post of the previous page:

Qbmax32 wrote:Have you tried actually posting anything with actual substance rather then nonsensical ad-hom arguments nobody can make heads or tails of?

Yeah, I have and Alphonzo's response was nonsensical ad hom aguments in a complaint I made about Wubli and it's been all downhill from there.

Go read my well structured and reasonable arguments here https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 54&t=18740 that were responded to with personal attacks that other admins said were unreasonable.

Imagine being this upset over a fucking online space videogame, Jesus Christ.

We're all human and nobody here is perfect. How about you take a chill pill and accept the fact that one of the server's many players doesn't like one of the admins and has had consistent negative experiences with them? I had one IC disciplinary note, for running into the engine, after specifically setting it up so that there was no chance of delamination, and haven't done it since. I play by the rules, don't validhunt, don't act like a shitter, and then every interaction I have with alphonzo ends up being unpleasant.

If you want to jack each other off, rename the forum to Circlejerk.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:53 am**

Qbmax32 wrote:Have you tried actually posting anything with actual substance rather then nonsensical ad-hom arguments nobody can make heads or tails of? Imagine being this upset over a fucking online space videogame, Jesus Christ.

Any feedback is feedback. Posting feedback doesn't really demand logs nor is it as strictly quality-controlled as ban appeals/admin complaints.
The player had a negative experience and posted it. Logs are optional. His opinion is his opinion.

I would have posted in his other thread but my opinion would likely be considered peanut gallery. I'll just drop mine here because I can: the ban that Frebbie referred to was made from an emotional, subjective place and imho should not have been a ban at all. While Frebbie did post a distasteful and/or hateful comment it was not something that would fall under rule 8 nor was it ban-worthy.

OOC: Frebbie wrote:to be fair you white south africans deserve the rape and violence. working to make a living is racist and youre denying your wealth to blacks"

While that nigga did say some stupid shit, this was at worst a /pol/ post. Not a doxx, not a threat. Just an untactful statement. We don't have safe space rules nor do we have hate speech laws and I wish it was kept that way. Goon/Yog does and their rules are fucking shit. Calling people out on being untactful or mean is perfectly fine. Thought policing isn't. Besides, how would you know you are saying something untactful unless you are explained why that is the case? Ban him from OOC if he is spamming, not for hurting someone's fee fees.

Rule 1 wrote: Don't be a dick.
We're all here to have a good time, supposedly. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little IC justification is against the rules. Legitimate conflicts where people get upset do happen however, as detailed in the escalation section of the rules."

This rule talks about IC escalation, not OOC banter. Being a dick is subjective, and the window of "being a dick" seems to be getting broader, because seemingly people are getting more thin skinned every year.

We are slowly elevating the chat moderation and I hate to invoke the slippery slope fallacy, but this is a digg-tier ban and I am honestly concerned about it, this sets an unpleasant precedent. But what does my opinion count for if it's politically incorrect, right? :^)

Grow some thicker skin, we're supposed to be good at handling banter. We used to be a 4chan server.

If you delete my post I will bite your nose off.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:56 am**

I didn't even make the ban.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:59 am**

MrAlphonzo wrote:I didn't even make the ban.

Still involved ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:20 am**

you did spend a lot of time defending it though

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:24 pm**

In any case here's some more constructive feedback:

Alphonozo is often times the only admin on Sybil, the server where you're most likely to be murdered by nonantagonists round after round

Rather than encouraging people to be civil on the lowpop server as nonantags, he has the most liberal interpretation of escalation and asimov laws, ignores precedents from the server rules page, while at the same time censoring/muting OOC over shit like /pol/ banter, spamming shitty buttons and playing meme music the entire time he's on.

If you get killed by a nonantagonist and ahelp it the response you get is an automatic oh no snookums you picked up the stack of metal from tool storage that he was going to use, he was totally justified in cutting your legs off, oh no borgs don't have to follow law 2 if they don't feel like it, you shouldn't have pushed the guy attacking you with the fireaxe if you didn't want him to cut your head off, lynchings are a good thing, asimov is a vague guideline it's really about what you FEEL man, shouldn't have been walking around maint wearing that outfit, you were asking for it. oh ruling is final, go complain on the forums and get berated by admins that give me the benefit of the doubt :^)

It's like having an antagonist DJ making the lowpop server a hostile place, misery loves company.

Anyways fuck that shit I never see any of the same player behavior or antagonistic administration on Bagil, don't see a reason to play Sybil if 90% of the gameplay is the Alphonzo special.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:47 pm**

he stepped on my toe worst admin 2005 i want my toe back

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:17 pm**

Frebbie wrote:In any case here's some more constructive feedback:

Alphonozo is often times the only admin on Sybil, the server where you're most likely to be murdered by nonantagonists round after round

Rather than encouraging people to be civil on the lowpop server as nonantags, he has the most liberal interpretation of escalation and asimov laws, ignores precedents from the server rules page, while at the same time censoring/muting OOC over shit like /pol/ banter, spamming shitty buttons and playing meme music the entire time he's on.

If you get killed by a nonantagonist and ahelp it the response you get is an automatic oh no snookums you picked up the stack of metal from tool storage that he was going to use, he was totally justified in cutting your legs off, oh no borgs don't have to follow law 2 if they don't feel like it, you shouldn't have pushed the guy attacking you with the fireaxe if you didn't want him to cut your head off, lynchings are a good thing, asimov is a vague guideline it's really about what you FEEL man, shouldn't have been walking around maint wearing that outfit, you were asking for it. oh ruling is final, go complain on the forums and get berated by admins that give me the benefit of the doubt :^)

It's like having an antagonist DJ making the lowpop server a hostile place, misery loves company.

Anyways fuck that shit I never see any of the same player behavior or antagonistic administration on Bagil, don't see a reason to play Sybil if 90% of the gameplay is the Alphonzo special.

Is this because I said you were valid because you placed uranium tiles in the middle of Central Hallway?

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am**

After having some days to think about it, truth be told, if you're going to respond to an ahelp with "This player has been perfect for years so they're not at fault" then you should just as well close the ahelp right then and there instead of "going through the motions."

Because at that point you've shown your bias and it's insulting you think someone doesn't know you're only doing the questions to maintain the facade that you uphold rules when you're just enjoying being a summoner/dj rather than an admin.

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:08 pm**

when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis. occasionally ill see complaints in ooc and think wow glad thats not me

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:54 pm**

BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:27 am**

Frebbie wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:You've made two (now closed) baseless complaints against him within a week and you are now angrily posting in his feedback thread. You need to chill out.
Maybe you can explain why all my admin interactions with alphonzo are negative while the ones with additional administrators are pleasant and non eventful, because I don't understand why that's the case.

Maybe my feedback is just as valid as your feedback as someone who was never involved in our interactions.

Maybe you can explain why all my alphonzo's interactions with you are negative while the ones with additional players are pleasant and non eventful, because I don't understand why that's the case.

Maybe my feedback is just as valid as your feedback as someone who was never involved in our interactions.

Really though. You're saying alphonzo is a terrible admin, and yet no one else has anything to support you (apart from the music, but that's irrelevant to his adminning abilities).

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:56 am**

SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:25 am**

obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:53 pm**

Stickymayhem wrote:
obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:29 am**

Qbmax32 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:51 am**

Nabski wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:55 am**

Nilons wrote:
Nabski wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i silence my midis.

Posted: **Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:41 am**

CreationPro wrote:
Nilons wrote:
Nabski wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
obscolene wrote:
SpaceInaba wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:when i click adminwho and see his name i turn on my midis.

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:51 am**

I play quality jazz and blues, countless times.

Do they call me Alphonzo the Jazz/Blues admin?

No.

But you fuck one bee...

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:06 am**

We know how it works.
First you fuck a bee, then you fuck a couple. Next thing you know, your dick's in the hive.

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:22 pm**

CreationPro wrote:Next thing you know, your dick's in the hive.

poetry

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:21 am**

[youtube]v_YozYt8l-g[/youtube]

Posted: **Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:51 am**

i like it when they press buttons but only sometimes

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:44 am**

haha midis
haha make gay people
hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
y u give bad note y make me sad...

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:52 am**

He's working hard on event hall and sacrificing himself for all of us, +1

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:24 am**

He's the man /tg/ needs, but not the one it deserves right now, so they'll hate him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.

Posted: **Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:52 am**

I tell you, I will not forget our adage.
We are born of the OOC in IC, made men by the OOC in IC, undone by the OOC in IC.
Our bans are yet to be created.
Fear the rule 3.
By the gods, fear it, Alphonzo.

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:41 pm**

good boy

Spoiler:

Posted: **Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:11 am**

based

Posted: **Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:41 pm**

No hate in this, just honest feedback. I am just a random dumbfuck so leave it or take it. This is regarding Jarek's ban.

The ban was made for a veryyyy niche circumstance. Many old players and admins could not even agree whether or not Jarek even broke the rules and at what stage or to what extend.

I believe in your effort to support your decision to ban Jarek, you kinda overlooked the aspect of how long his ban was (1 month). Bans that long should be reserved for people deliberately and knowingly self-antagging.

Denying his appeal in total and not even considering lowering his ban, even if you strongly believe the ban is deserved in the first place, shows a lack of consideration of the circumstances.

Jarek's a good boy and after you denied him, he let the appeal go and didn't push for a headmin, but I think you should have taken the initiative and lowered his ban to something more reasonable.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:39 am**

MrAlphonzo is back!

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:24 am**

Oh my god he's back, the servers shall shine again.

Donde esta la lechuga del diablo...

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:45 am**

What the fuck I never thought he'd return.

Posted: **Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:16 pm**

nice guy

Posted: **Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:47 pm**

On the one hand: is an admin on sybil, this is nice, I like it when there's staff on sybil please god can some of you guys come to sybil more often

On the other hand: played "it's hip to fuck bees" on sybil without giving us all bee gfs

All in all, good admin by sybil standards. (standards are "no admins at all")

Posted: **Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:58 pm**

Alphonzo's been back for three weeks and already leaving a trail of mud-boot sized holes through the chests of players not following the rules.

Glad to have you back.

Posted: **Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:05 am**

he thought 3 month ban for ascii image in ooc (x5) is an acceptable not-banbot behavior until the headmins stepped in, likely to do something similar again
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28114

Posted: **Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:04 pm**

A little stubborn and a bitter old man of an admin, but he gets results one way or another. Something to be said for that.

Posted: **Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:22 pm**

Back at it again at Krispy Kreme. I like the bit when he makes nerds cry.

Posted: **Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:44 pm**

MrAlphonzo wrote:You might not remember the exact circumstances of why you were banned, but you could at least say why you were a, for lack of a better term, shitter and what has changed about you as a person up until now that makes you worth letting back into the server.

There isn't much you've given me to work with here, so unfortunately, this appeal is denied.

I understand you're being a prissy little shit because everyone rightfully made fun of you for your abysmal 3 month bans over some basic bitch spam that wasn't even extreme, but this literally is not the /tg/ precedent. Nobody fucking remembers what they were doing 2 years ago in perfect detail.

Do you need him to give you a metaphorical blowjob? Need to hop on VRchat and bump pixels until you feel satisfied? Or is your ego just not being stroked enough?

When players are permabanned, they are told to go get time on another server.
Is hippie a shitty server? Sure.
Is it still another server? Yes.
He was not told he couldn't do his time on hippie.
He did his time on hippie in double and even gained an admin position.

If we're not going to allow hippie to count as your "time off", it needs to be in the rules.

Additionally, the player acknowledged his fuckup.

He does not have perfect fucking memory of a shitty 2d space game from 2 years ago. I understand that you do, and this really means you should focus on your priorities in life, because it shows you have a very unhealthy balance of work and life.

This admin takes the job far too fucking seriously, and is pretty clearly shitting all over this perfectly normal ban appeal because they're obviously mad their last 5 bans got overturned.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:37 am**

iamgoofball wrote:Negative goof feedback which is a SHINING endorsement

He got permabanned on /vg/ for the same thing he was permabanned here for back in May lmao

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:42 am**

MrAlphonzo wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:Negative goof feedback which is a SHINING endorsement
He got permabanned on /vg/ for the same thing he was permabanned here for back in May lmao

That's almost a year ago, you egotistical dog.

Posted: **Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:25 am**

Next time you ban me for a week because I wasn't "doing my job" you should learn to do your job in a timely fucking manner. That was an excessive amount of interrogation. Christ dude next time just fucking ban me, I'm not interested in hearing you proselytize. Sorry I didn't spend 3 hours of my shift investigating whether or not the fucking plasmaman who was pumping plasma all across the station was the culprit in the case of Why THe Fuck is There Plasma in the Fucking Hallways, I was busy doing his job fixing the fucking APCs and wires that were broken because he was too busy fucking around with his autistic vanity shuttle.

Posted: **Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:49 am**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Next time you ban me for a week because I wasn't "doing my job" you should learn to do your job in a timely fucking manner. That was an excessive amount of interrogation. Christ dude next time just fucking ban me, I'm not interested in hearing you proselytize. Sorry I didn't spend 3 hours of my shift investigating whether or not the fucking plasmaman who was pumping plasma all across the station was the culprit in the case of Why THe Fuck is There Plasma in the Fucking Hallways, I was busy doing his job fixing the fucking APCs and wires that were broken because he was too busy fucking around with his autistic vanity shuttle.

For someone who said they "needed to go to bed" and wanted to hurry the whole thing up, you sure stayed up a while to write this.

Posted: **Wed May 03, 2023 7:50 pm**

MrAlphonzo has chosen to retire.

/tg/Station 13

[No Longer Admin] MrAlphonzo

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