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Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:34 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

Just for some context as a ssethtider, when was this "antag rolling" happening? Last year? 2 years ago? 5?

it kinda matters, because bringing up something recent vs ancient history are different matters.

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:54 pm**

lmao dax this tilted that imsxz is lucky. Its hardly a bug or antag exploit, they could literally just ghost/suicide roundstart. plus they’re the one who reported it. Who you gonna call to the stand next dax?

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:11 pm**

Arathian wrote:Just for some context as a ssethtider, when was this "antag rolling" happening? Last year? 2 years ago? 5?

it kinda matters, because bringing up something recent vs ancient history are different matters.

Right before they quit iirc.

Oh also someone looked at their prefs the other day and they still had single-slot high-desired role on Low, return to lobby enabled, and all antag rolls on. So yeah about as recent as you can get.

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:36 pm**

As far as I can tell this bug doesn’t even raise your chances of getting antag? All it does is return you back to the lobby if you don’t roll antag which is functionally the same as suiciding at round start. Imsxz was watchlisted for a while after it was noticed and imsxz themself admitted to doing it, apologized for it and helped get it removed. While I do feel that they should receive a note or maybe an antag ban for a time I don’t see how randomly posting about it in their feedback thread is anything more then an attempt to stir the pot.

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:37 pm**

wesoda[/quote]25 wrote:lmao dax this tilted that imsxz is lucky. Its hardly a bug or antag exploit, they could literally just ghost/suicide roundstart. plus they’re the one who reported it. Who you gonna call to the stand next dax?

That would be doris:

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:
Arathian wrote:Just for some context as a ssethtider, when was this "antag rolling" happening? Last year? 2 years ago? 5?

it kinda matters, because bringing up something recent vs ancient history are different matters.
Right before they quit iirc.

Oh also someone looked at their prefs the other day and they still had single-slot high-desired role on Low, return to lobby enabled, and all antag rolls on. So yeah about as recent as you can get.

As far as I can tell this bug doesn’t even raise your chances of getting antag? All it does is return you back to the lobby if you don’t roll antag which is functionally the same as suiciding at round start. Imsxz was watchlisted for a while after it was noticed and imsxz themself admitted to doing it, apologized for it and helped get it removed. While I do feel that they should receive a note or maybe an antag ban for a time I don’t see how randomly posting about it in their feedback thread is anything more then an attempt to stir the pot.

Do keep in mind that antag rolling is a rule violation and so is exploiting bugs. Using a bug to try and get away with breaking a rule as an /admin/ is rather questionable behavior if not two rule violations in its own.

This is valid feedback. Especially since I'm not convinced they actually have any regret considering the push of them to say 'it's not a bug' and other arguments they've had. The virology meme is an interesting addition to that theory.

You bring up a good point though, why was no note given or ban doled out? Though that seems more of feedback to whichever admin dealt with the situation.

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:55 pm**

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:
Arathian wrote:Just for some context as a ssethtider, when was this "antag rolling" happening? Last year? 2 years ago? 5?

it kinda matters, because bringing up something recent vs ancient history are different matters.
Right before they quit iirc.

Oh also someone looked at their prefs the other day and they still had single-slot high-desired role on Low, return to lobby enabled, and all antag rolls on. So yeah about as recent as you can get.

if by the other day you mean 3 months ago or whenever the watchlist was added sure. I always make sure to have at least 1 job set to high nowadays.there have been a couple instances where I havent been able to set a job because i'll end up joining shortly before the round starts and as im selecting my job prefs the round will start before i can lock them in, but I ahelp whenever that happens and proceed to join the game as a latejoin.

My quitting had nothing to do with this situation; it was entirely based on IRL circumstances where I wouldn't be active nearly as much as I am typically. I deadmin when I feel like I'm going to be not very active because I'd rather spend my time playing than adminning; I have a habit of forcing myself to admin for a good portion of the day and it's easier to quit adminning than it is to break an unwanted habit. Recently I got that time back and was suggested to re-admin.

Regardless, deadminning to avoid the consequences of being an evil antag roller would have been silly if that had been my intention, as players are just as vulnerable to being banned as admins are, we follow the same rules. I'd have fucked off to a different server or game if I wanted to escape punishment. Alternatively I would have ust not told anyone in the first place and kept antag rolling like the monster I am because it was pretty much undetectable. Alas, I was fully transparent about it and had it patched out. Nothing compelled me to do it other than myself.

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:16 am**

Dax, derailing a feedback thread to further your personal vendetta is shitty. You may wanna consider stopping "spreading awareness" to players in ooc and deadchat as well. The situation was dealt with, and bringing it back up just to turn players against them after the fact is just petty.

As for the allegations of this increasing the amount of antag, it would allow you to double dip by rolling for ghost roles from roundstart. Its still pretty much the same thing as suiciding/ghosting at roundstart.

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:06 pm**

Posted: **Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:08 pm**

put me in the screenshot

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:49 am**

Hoyl shit they let me trade my antag token for shift start space ninja 10/10 greatmin.

Posted: **Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:56 pm**

Stable, logical person who presses fun buttons and has sense of humor whose existence enriches environment we exist in.
Gold standard pink haired catgirl.
Unable to function without murderbone.

I am 100% assured this person is a myth, lie and a fabrication though as I never see them inside the game at the same time as me even if we had the same department.

Posted: **Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:52 pm**

If they hadn't quit and come back so many times we would still be on page 1.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:10 pm**

Knows the game, answers tickets, active, and is overall a good personality. Not really much more I could ask for in an admin.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:22 pm**

I like imszx personally but they are also a great admin. Occasionally presses the fun buttons when appropriate, is extremely active and extremely helpful when asked questions. They will also reasonably answer any IC related questions.

Also gave me abductors when I had traitor because I asked! That was real nice.

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:21 am**

HOLY FUCK STOP STEALING MY BODY WHEN MY VOLUNTARY CULT BAN BOOTS ME TO DCHAT.
I COULD FORGIVE YOU ONCE OR TWICE BUT THAT WAS THE THIRD TIME.
I TOLD EVERYONE (sec officer, doctor who ordered smokes for anxiety, Mooney man and tator cat who physically dragged my passive body along to tator shenanigans) LEXIA WOULD KILL EVERYONE BUT NOBODY LISTENED.
I TOLD YOU SO!!!

Who literally could be mad that your shitty disliked cult rounds are now you being robust antag and someone else enjoys it instead.
Based RNG, i was heartily amused when it happened again.
Thanks for improving my cult rounds.

I still say someone needs to tracker implant this pink haired catgirl tho.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:13 pm**

Excellent administrator. Goes out of their way to help players and inject fun into the round.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:23 pm**

I'm not sure if I should say my opinion on IMSXZ here in detail, but... I'll just say that IMSXZ is definitely south of "Good admin" from my experience.

"Stop ahelping things you arent involved in" that's not a damned rule.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:27 pm**

If people involved in the stuff want an admin intervention, they will call for an admin. Stop ahelping stuff you are not involved in, snitch.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:29 pm**

I hate them on a personal level for their style of play, but their administrative conduct is regularly fair (excluding maybe one questionable ruling in the past that I made a complaint about that was semi-successful) and they will answer questions about rules to those that are confused. Tends to assume the best in people before jumping to the worst in people which clouds their judgement sometimes, but makes for a fairly trusted admin due to their ability to be lenient.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:35 pm**

Alright then. Now I'm going to make an (Informal) complaint.

There's been situations where i've been involved in, or have observed, extreme shitlery, Such as Ekat uploading kill laws to the AI, and exempting herself from said kill law, and using that kill law as a weapon, As nonantag RD. Two rounds in a row, both times as nonantag.

First time, I wasn't involved because I got to the round late and just wanted to observe to see what was going on

Second time, I WAS a borg of the ai, who was traitor. Ekat, a nonantag, decided to try to upload the kill laws. it failed because well... couldnt purge the ai. Ahelped that, no response.

Told me to "Beat their shit in" after someone attacked me with a baseball bat for no reason.

So far, Not the best opinion on their admining. Not malice, from what i see, Just ... I guess they just dont want to deal with this shit.

To be fair, however, I do not entirely understand their reasoning, and they may have a perfectly good reason not to act on such ahelps. I might be confused. This is just my... personal view, not an official complaint.

I might just be seeing the worst of them.

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:47 am**

have you tried playing the game instead of asking the admins to do it for you?

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:23 pm**

Reyn wrote:Alright then. Now I'm going to make an (Informal) complaint.

There's been situations where i've been involved in, or have observed, extreme shitlery, Such as Ekat uploading kill laws to the AI, and exempting herself from said kill law, and using that kill law as a weapon, As nonantag RD. Two rounds in a row, both times as nonantag.

First time, I wasn't involved because I got to the round late and just wanted to observe to see what was going on

Second time, I WAS a borg of the ai, who was traitor. Ekat, a nonantag, decided to try to upload the kill laws. it failed because well... couldnt purge the ai. Ahelped that, no response.

Told me to "Beat their shit in" after someone attacked me with a baseball bat for no reason.

So far, Not the best opinion on their admining. Not malice, from what i see, Just ... I guess they just dont want to deal with this shit.

To be fair, however, I do not entirely understand their reasoning, and they may have a perfectly good reason not to act on such ahelps. I might be confused. This is just my... personal view, not an official complaint.

I might just be seeing the worst of them.

To address your complaint to the best of my memory;

Regarding Ekaterina's "kill laws", if I recall correctly, the laws were just "destroy people that ERP" and "Ekaterina is not capable of ERP" or something to that effect? Either way, non-antagonist AI's cannot grief without explicit laws telling them to grief. Kinda silly, but there's a poster in game defining "ERP" (basically the same as OOC ERP), no harm no foul.

And your situation where the assistant beat you with a bat and stole your bartender shotgun; I do agree that he was a cunt. However, I didn't act beacuse I didn't want to, I didn't act because within the current rules of escalation he had not overstepped his bounds to be beyond an IC issue. Had he ended up critting or killing you, he would have likely ended up with some sort of warning or ban.

The reason your adminhelps tend to be brushed off is because, like the above, the shitter in question isn't doing enough(in the admins opinion) to warrant OOC action against the person. Investigating issues is the hard part of administrating - not dishing out punishments.

When an IC conflict is adminhelped by a party that isn't participating(such as an observer adminhelping the HOP for killing an assistant seemingly randomly), I am more reluctant to interfere directly, as chances are there was a good reason leading up to it, and the victim will likely ahelp if they believe there was an issue. I don't like to proactively bwoink in direct conflicts like this unless I have reason to suspect there might be metagaming or the likes involved. Likewise, I DO proactively bwoink individuals that are griefing in a situation such as shocking random doors, putting poison into the cryo tubes, et cetera where the crew is unlikely to be aware of who's responsible and are probably assuming it's an antag doing it. I investigate lots of issues, particularly ones like sabotage, without prior adminhelps from any affected parties.

Hope that answers some of your concerns or clears up some confusion. I'd like to apologize as well if I come off as rather dismissive and uncaring - I have been trying to improve my own transparency and ability to communicate the situation to both sides clearly recently, and I'm hoping to eliminate my bad habit of wordlessly brushing off tickets that I don't believe are actionable.

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:13 pm**

Yeah, I guess I was just misunderstanding the situation. Sorry about all that.

Posted: **Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:38 pm**

I like this guy. From all the encounters we have had, I have found him to be very based, neutral and straightforward.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:14 pm**

Much better admin than I've previously given them credit for being, honestly. I've doubted their compitence before, but honestly, I think they're fine nowadays. They know what they're doing.

Might be a bit of a dick in deadchat, but otherwise, good.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:57 pm**

Although no logs of this round exist, due to the fucking statbus fucking up, at least from what I can see, During a rev round, they, or possibly another admin, Gave one of the revs jungle fever for a gimmick, and also changed someone's name to a gif which took up most of the ingame chat window. This meant whenever the character was mentioned, chat was FLOODED by the gif, pushing everything else away.

Later changed my name to a gif when I complained.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:16 pm**

Context to the jungle fever stuff: there was only 1 headrev left, he was stuck in cargo seemingly indefinitely, despite people passing by and seeing him and knowing hes a player controlled monkey(though they were unaware that he was a headrev). Figured it'd be lame to just tell them where the headrev was or the likes, figured meteor/rodspam wouldnt have been too great either given the cirumstances(and i usually reserve meteors for space explorers). I got the idea for jungle fever from the headrev being a monkey; either the headrev would get lynched for being a monkey and the round would conclude, or the heads of staff would get monkey'd and lynched and the round would conclude. Monkeys taking over the station and stagnating was very unlikely given how weak monkeys are and how armed the station already was, so that wasnt a concern. I asked for prayers in OOC, and monkey'd the first 3 to pray. Eventually, the headrev got lynched. The end. Apparently there was a monkey round earlier that day on the same server, which i wasn't aware of, as i had just logged on the round prior, and I apologized for the double monkey round.

As for the gif name, I've gotten generally positive responses from players when I do that sort of thing in the past. I made one of the monkey leaders names a gif of a monkey jumping on the camera (https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... monkie.gif) which was rather large I do admit, it took up the entire chatbox, and I should have gotten a smaller gif(or just not have done it). Later on, I saw ReynTime talking about the monkey gif name in chat, though I don't remember what exactly he said. I set his name to a gif of a cat getting hit with a newspaper(https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... id_cat.gif). This was closer to the end of the round.

I apologize that my gif names interrupted your observing experience - had someone playing in the round ahelped that the gif name was making it difficult to play. The only complaint I noticed was from you, a ghost, with the ability to move away from the monkey.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 pm**

Gif names are the most immersion breaking shitty admin power that shouldn’t exist. Fucking love how naming policy exists and admins can do this shit, its not just annoying, but hypocritical. I get it in dchat but in game is fucking absurd and is a way of saying “fuck you” to anyone trying to roleplay, which I was under the impression admins were supposed to be influencing.

That being said imsxz is still one the best current admins, just don’t do this gay shit.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:24 pm**

it's called comedy gold

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:34 pm**

refused to tc trade for cqc literally the worst admin around

Jokes aside I love his adminning, but cant stand his playstyle

Posted: **Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:02 am**

Murderboning an escape shuttle on an otherwise quiet round, while the only surviving pirate, whilst not meeting the pirate booty count at all nor meeting any effort to, on the very least robust server, should be at least a noteable offense. I very much extremely disagree with the playstyle of this particular player in every single way you can count, unto the last.

But okay they're a good admin.

Stick to adminning, you'll earn less unwarranted hatred that way. Murderboning the entirety of Sybil is like skinning a puppy.

Posted: **Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:15 pm**

Antags can do whatever they want.

Posted: **Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:35 pm**

i love imsxz

Posted: **Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:05 am**

angelstarri wrote:i love imsxz

Posted: **Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:52 am**

One of the best admins. One of the worst players.

Posted: **Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:00 pm**

TWATICUS wrote:
angelstarri wrote:i love imsxz

Posted: **Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:32 pm**

based admin, extremely knowledgeable about the game + is very chill and fair when making rulings

1 of my faves

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:05 am**

helped a clown follow their heart and achieve a lifelong dream of a megafauna petting zoo

goodmin

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:09 am**

orbits me nearly constantly

i feel oppressed scream

based goodmin who's robust

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:31 am**

zero the big boy wrote:orbits me nearly constantly

i feel oppressed scream

based goodmin who's robust

shh bottom

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:19 am**

Imsex is goodmin but should upload more agent videos cause those are my favourite by far.

Stealth cat > murderbony cat.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:28 am**

cool guy

Posted: **Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:22 pm**

I love Imsxz x2

Posted: **Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:50 pm**

I really, really like imsxz

Posted: **Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:53 pm**

I am affectionate towards imsxz for their excellent service as an administrator on /tg/station13.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:01 pm**

Imsex is a good admin. Always super respectful to players and has the patience to talk to them after they've had a bad day/round if they took things too far in game.

Their cute face makes me so mad.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:27 am**

cool & nice

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:15 am**

i love imsxz i love imsxz

Posted: **Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:01 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:08 pm**

the cat is back

Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:11 am**

I love imsxz

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