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Friends of /tg/station, it is clear that our beloved admin NikNakFlak is in extreme pain. Please, if you could donate to this campaign, it would mean a lot to him.
https://www.gofundme.com/4fnht3e4

Dang, 5000 dollars to put me down? My patreon only requires 2000 for me to retire.

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Euthanasia, especially for humans, is expensive. Retirement would not fix the mental pain you feel.

THE METAGANG IS REAL

NikNak has been smoking the purest autism

But I'm not smoking you so??

he's too busy smoking pole

Can we stop with the memes in an official feedback thread? This is getting ridiculous.

LMAO this is ridiculous

I suppose having an ex lifewebber(?) hate club is kind of endearing must be doing something right I guess.

>log on to the forums
>visit FNR section
>reported posts on niknakflaks thread
Oooooh boy...

Seriously what the actual fuck? Do you lot seriously have nothing better to do than shit post on a feedback thread? I'd delete the posts but at this point Im fighting a loosing battle as fucking every shit as showed up here.
So tell you what, I'm going to start issuing warnings to everyone whos shit posted. You shit post again after said warning, banned, 1 week min.

Incomptinence wrote:I suppose having an ex lifewebber(?) hate club is kind of endearing must be doing something right I guess.

I never played lifeweb

Likes to ask the HARD questions.

in all seriousness
niknak is the type of person to delete posts of criticism from his own feedback thread
niknak is the type of person to really believe that an ex-admin is stalking and harassing him through over 50 and counting different alternate accounts
niknak is the type of person to threaten to report someone for talking about marijuana in OOC and quote a rule about how you can't talk about pirating video games in order to justify it



niknak is the type of person to message you on IRC demanding to know why you don't like him, stop not liking him, you better start liking him, well look everyone else likes him so clearly you're an idiot for being the only one to not like him lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (really)

it's embarrassing for everyone for someone to be so engrossed, to have such a THIRST for imaginary power in a game as shitty as ss13

Oh danno, your shittery has been missed and your grudges are always hilarious

I think I'mma vote Nik now.

NikNakFlak wrote:Oh danno, your shittery has been missed and your grudges are always hilarious

just stating real things that you've done

Doesn't like it when I insult him, bretty gud dude, adequate levels of 'fun'.

rude

MY FAVORITE ADMIN

rude

I haven't been able to talk or resolve things with this guy for a good year.
Every time I try to talk to him he gives off this feeling like he would rather have me gone.

I know I'm not the best player or community member of tgstation, but I'm getting tired of his dismissive attitude towards me, I don't know if it's other players.

I've tried to talk sensibly to him in IRC and just now, when I tried to continue a conversation in ahelp about scripts or gameplay assisted programs for SS13 were against the rules after a round end in IRC, he told me to not message him and to go away.
I'm not afraid to admit at that point I told him to go fuck himself and ignore my future ahelps, but I thought about it and I don't want that to be the case.

I'd much rather him tell me how he feels rather than just tell me to go away so we can work on something other than me just trying to ignore his existence, which is somethin` I really don't want to do.
That, or I ask some form of discussion/action from headmins.

Not everybody wants a person buddy buddy relationship. Continually pestering someone about it is just going to make it worse.

Hint: Stop

Saegrimr wrote:Not everybody wants a person buddy buddy relationship. Continually pestering someone about it is just going to make it worse.
Hint: Stop

I never said I wanted to be his friend.
I want to make sure one of the most active basil-mins isn't treating me like a shithead.

Tell me straight up, is it because I tried continuing an ahelp in IRC, my complaint is invalid?

When you hop on to quickly deal with something and then have someone constantly pestering you for hours thereafter when all you want to do is get back to your damn vidya/movie/TV/date/dinner/whatever and they keep on pestering you even when you ask them not to, that's not a situation that creates goodwill.

Especially when there's the rest of the admin team right there to deal with whatever the hell it is if it's really that important.

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=166

"THIS BOARD IS FOR SPECIFIC INCIDENCES OF IN-GAME ADMIN ABUSE."

merged into feedback

Screemonster wrote:When you hop on to quickly deal with something and then have someone constantly pestering you for hours thereafter when all you want to do is get back to your damn vidya/movie/TV/date/dinner/whatever...

Ayy lmao

le me le logging onto ss13 while le gf is over so i can get myself hard by unfairly banning a few players before le fucking her brains out
oops she forgot to put on her paper bag
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

relateable

We have our differences. In the past the kinda ended explosively. But we've been pretty civil with each other of late. I think just keeping out of each others ways works.

peoplearestrange wrote:We have our differences. In the past the kinda ended explosively. But we've been pretty civil with each other of late. I think just keeping out of each others ways works.

before you know it shit will end up in a sectionalized war

so really, when niknak answered my ahelp, it's not considered official anymore if i try to continue it over IRC?
im not trying to be a dick, it's just i want my facts set straight before i make myself look like an autist again for caring about something i think matters.

that or needlessly getting a thread merged

If you really have something you want to talk out with an admin, I suggest talking to them privately about it.

I would vote to re-allow ERP for him.

Had a strange incident today involving NikNakFlak.

Basically, in-round, I had my SE saved by the geneticist (not a traitor, by the way, though there's nothing I can do about that), and he forcibly distributed it to a large proportion of the crew, so there were many people running around with my character's appearance. Someone had also unleashed the big legion skull, which we were anticipating to appear in mining at some point.

What we didn't expect is for an object the size of a bloblet (orange floating things that make zombies) to barrel through the station itself, attacking people and breaking walls. It was also actively shrinking and growing in front of our eyes, so that it quickly went from blob-shape to bullet sized - literally several pixels across at most, and insanely fast as it scaled down. It made it difficult to counterattack, and though I managed to get in a few good hits, I whiffed several attacks and got killed. My body was immediately picked up by a legion skull and turned into a legion thrall, so my ghost was free-floating nearby, with me being utterfly confused.

So I adminhelped. I spoke to Niknak, requesting to come back to life, having been killed by what was essentially a glitch (I wasn't hopeful, since I'd been raised maybe five times after glitchy situations in about six years, but other people have a tendency to get away with it, so I figured I'd ask). He told me that he had seen me alive, dying to my wounds having killed the legion, in a different, but nearby location - I believe with the implication that, since I'd managed to survive long enough to kill it, I wasn't actually killed by the glitch so much.

Now, I'm under the impression that he jumped to my ghost, and saw another person nearby with my SE alive long enough to kill the legion and succumb to their wounds, missing my ghost in the shadows. And I might have been a bit acerbic, since I have a tendency to discover game-ending glitches with my face. But to be told that something I'd witnessed happen to myself didn't happen, by someone else who couldn't possibly have seen the same thing, hit a little close to home.

This isn't an admin complaint, but it's relevant as feedback: the information is there for you, and though it's sometimes difficult to discern amongst the white noise, telling someone that something they witnessed didn't happen to them is not helpful.

Not even the worse thing to happen in that game, though.

EDIT: As evident by this thread ("salty ass", "complete dick") and that of Okand37 ("dumb tin foil hat", "dense", other insults), NikNakFlak becomes aggressive when criticised, and will even follow you to other threads in order to perpetuate this. Feedback: do not do these things; they are unbecoming of an administrator.

>Guy adminhelps about micro legion
>Jump to him, see him alive and fighting it
>Debating reviving because now im mega confused
>Decide on the safe bet of not reviving
>Have to track down a 1 pixel sized legion and eventually manage to right click the fucker and delete it
>Being yelled at in adminpms by AN being a salty ass
>Do my best but still decide not to revive him since it's a shitty bug and I'm still not even sure of whos who or whats what, I know what I saw but I could be wrong and I've never seen this bug before
>Round ends super shortly after that
>Anonymous starts salting in OOC like a complete ass
>Another admin tells him off
>He then adminhelps again and says that Admins were the cause of the scaling and it was admin fuckery
>I already made a bug report but apparently this isn't even new but nobody else bothered

I understand your frustration but holy fuck, you turned into a complete dick and assumed malice, conspiracy and everything under the sun. You aren't such a nice guy.

NikNakFlak wrote:~

Now, Niknak - I wasn't yelling at you, though I suppose I can see why you read that. I was trying to work out what had happened (which I believe I did, once I'd teased the information out of you, though since our exchange was cut off there are still mysteries that likely won't be solved).

Yes, I was annoyed, but I wanted to get to the bottom of it, and dismissing factual statements as "salty" is not productive. I likely would've posted about my round in OOC at the end of things even if I'd survived, because I am the kind of person who likes to talk about their round if interesting things happened (such as having an army of shouting, superpowered men with your face running around, causing havoc).

But here's the part to stick on.

>He then adminhelps again and says that Admins were the cause of the scaling and it was admin fuckery
...assumed malice, conspiracy and everything under the sun.

I did no such thing.

I assume that you're talking about the response where I mentioned that the only times I'd seen sprite size manipulation in action was when an admin was involved. It was supposed to convey such information as was actually in the message. Looking over it again, I can see how it can be misinterpreted as an accusation, if the person reading it were sensitive about such things - but that was not the intended message, and I'm sorry if you took it in such a manner. That likely also explains the disappointing reaction of the other admin.

With my theory as to how your description of what happened differed with the reality of what happened to me, and your report that the bug issue is known (and therefore likely to be handled), we've covered all the points and can lay them to rest.

Though you don't need to think I'm a nice guy.

>says thing that sounds 100% like blaming admins
>"no no, I didnt mean I was blaming admins, Im just saying I've only ever seen this when it was admins doing it"

Whatever, I think your attitude is garbage personally.

NikNakFlak wrote:blaming admins

It was supposed to be about how, anecdotally, sprite changes are often - but not always - attributed to actual people being involved, but fine.

Whatever, I think your attitude is garbage personally.

That's also fine. I'm not here to please you.

0/10 isn't nice to AnonNow AND won't let me tell awful puns deadmin posthaste

Okay, now seriously.
>mutes me on ahelp, pray and OOC for telling puns
>then fucks off

DemonFiren wrote:Okay, now seriously.
>mutes me on ahelp, pray and OOC for telling puns
>then fucks off

Free speech is a privilege, chump.

Puns are a right, though.

NikNak I have a 1001 bad things to say about you, but have you noticed how I never have? (in here atleast)
Remember that.

DemonFiren wrote:Puns are a right, though.

How punny. You think he has a fear of puns?

Mackerel wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:Puns are a right, though.

How punny. You think he has a fear of puns?

My puns are just too good for him.

I hope you're done with puns because they're no fun, son.


My album drop 7/23/16 AMA

SS13 gangsta rap when

Saying you don't like puns is one thing.
Jokingly - and briefly - muting me for not liking my puns is also one thing.

OOC and deadchat-banning me for puns, calling me "the new puunches" (in before I get slapped for quoting adminhelps of ongoing rounds) and claiming this to be "in the best interests of the server" is something entirely different, however; something that I'd call slightly excessive irrespective of how awful my wordplay was.
Now I don't like taking personal disputes to separate complaint threads, but I very much do want my gripes to be recorded someplace more permanent than ahelps. If it is decided that this is better suited for an admin complaint I suspect I must comply, but otherwise I'd rather settle this without taking the closest this community has to legal steps.

I have done OOC a favor by making sure they never hear your dog penis puns or tentacle jokes ever again.

First of all, that enumeration is misleading, these were two isolated instances (one of each, and the latter wasn't even lewd - which I believe you are insinuating: in its entirety it was along the lines of "an octopus with two additional arms has ten tacles". As for the former, it was in response to someone making a horse pun of similar caliber, so I believe I was halfway justified if lacking taste.) Now those were two out of maybe twenty jokes total, and several days apart, too.
Second, that's up to OOC to decide. So far, the reactions I've encountered were, yes, part usual screaming at awful puns (which, by the way, is not exclusively a negative response, given that the nature of the pun is that its humour increases with awfulness, as such complaining loudly and over the top is to be considered equal to applause and laughter) - but also part cheering, and quite a few jokes in response.

I don't want platitudes, this was like 70% meme and 30% stop being awful in OOC and play the game. The ban is lifted

Then please (no, really: please. It would be very nice of you to do so) make that clear next time instead of displaying a distanced mode of communication that, to my untrained eyes, appears to be between insulting and passive-aggressive.
It is hard to read emotions over text.

Thank you for the peaceful resolution, however.