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Mackerel wrote:https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 94#p176094

Hibbles wrote:Real A+ Bagilmin who does a lot of 'passing' in the 'pocket' on the side of you know what I mean.

NikNakFlak wrote:I acted alone though...?

OOC: AnonymousNow: Derrick Cobb here. The real Derrick Cobb. I fistfought the legion (which was glitchily tiny, like bullet sized), got killed after getting a few good hits in, told that that didn't happen, cloned, killed again by another guy with a spear for no reason, brought back, then killed by a traitor in the morgue as I tried to put my clothes back on.
Notice that line about being "told that that didn't happen" up there? Apparently, it made Okand37 very cross.

Now, the intent of posting this bit of information was to share my experiences of the round with the other players, since many of them had been forced to have my face by a rogue geneticist (and people have a tendency to talk about what happened to them post-round if something interesting happened to them). There was that throwaway line about the Niknak discussion, since that was at the time ongoing, but it was a small, detailless part of an elsewhat intended post.

Admin PM from-Okand37: You can keep things to adminhelps, and you can have your disagreeances but don't bring it into OOC. Go read rule 6.

"Alright, then", I thought, "Since this mix-up in the circumstances surrounding my death is still unclear, I suppose I shall continue with in admin PMs, as requested in this message." So I responded with my best clue as to what could have gone wrong with the thing that killed me (and several other people).

PM to-Admins: Y'know, I've only seen sprite size manipulation with admin intervention. I've seen missized sprites, yes, but nothing that's actually changed size while being observed unless an admin had a finger on a slider.

To which Okand37 responded...

Admin PM from-Okand37: Since you don't seem to understand that ruling is final.

You have been muted from OOC by Okand37.
You have been muted from adminhelp, admin PM and ASAY by Okand37.

Let's skip past my obvious question of "What ruling?" to talk about what went wrong here.

- The admin weighed in on a situation that was being handled by another admin, by attempting to halt the conversation
- They reacted in a knee-jerk fashion when they saw me post about my round experience
- They gave me conflicting information, using my response - which was a course of action they appeared to recommend - as an opportunity to silence me with a chatban.

I'm not posting this in admin complaints because this is supposed to be feedback (and a complaint would get nowhere). It's not often that I run into situations with admins - I recall two other instances in my long time on the server - but I was very disappointed in the conduct of this particular admin, and hope that they can improve.

NikNakFlak wrote:~

claiming it was admins that did it

NikNakFlak wrote:"You didn't say that, I just interpreted it as that you said that"

NikNakFlak wrote:I perceived what you told me differently than the way it was exactly stated and you perceived what I said wrong from the way I stated it

NikNakFlak wrote:Straight-up insults

Mackerel wrote:what are some other admins' opinion on okand?

Hibbles wrote:Even if what Okand did was totally incorrect, it would be such a tiny blip compared to all they are and all they do. I know for a fact without having to look it up that there's such blips with you, Anon, and you wouldn't want people to judge you based on those alone.

Fiz Bump wrote:Super duper nice on the forums. Which makes me wonder about the ohoho-ing anime girl in their profile.

Poorman wrote:This happened like a month ago, but I feel like I should post this.

I was given a dayban for killing other ashwalkers as an ashwalker, and tried to explain why I did it through in character means, but she shut me down on the basis that ashwalker was a team antagonist role, despite the lack of any real indication this is the case. Ashwalkers do not have an icon to indicate team antagonist status. Regardless, I tried to explain this but I was daybanned.

I honestly feel like Okand uses their own opinion to resolve issues rather then the actual rules, which is a very bad thing to do as an admin. I figured if I posted an appeal, I'd just get shut down by every person on the peanut gallery as a shitter, and nothing would get resolved, but I think that the ban, along with the deliberation, was totally wrong.

Okand37 wrote: I remember something along the lines of you saying you killed them because 'they were weak and only the strong survive.' That isn't really considered IC justification for killing someone, especially in a team antagonist role. I informed you of ashwalkers being a team antagonist but you pressed on this being the reason, so I said you'd need to take a break and you did a 180 and completely changed the reasoning as to why you killed them.