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Shitcurity's favorite trialmin. Only had one personal experience with him. Was perma'd, then executed by security as someone who wasn't remotely valid. Atlanta tried to argue with me that using my headset to announce why I had been arrested (and nothing else) justified the killing. 2/10 this community can do better

Brumbpo wrote:Shitcurity's favorite trialmin. Only had one personal experience with him. Was perma'd, then executed by security as someone who wasn't remotely valid. Atlanta tried to argue with me that using my headset to announce why I had been arrested (and nothing else) justified the killing. 2/10 this community can do better

Quick note from the HoS who did the executing, you were executed because one of my officers showed me what they told me was your bag. It contained an arcane tome.

At this point in the round the chaplain was long dead and we had been furiously hunting down and executing anyone who was caught with cult gear. I wasn't keeping track of what you were saying over common and figured I'd deal with it as I walked by perma and saw you in there.

TankNut wrote: Quick note from the HoS who did the executing, you were executed because one of my officers showed me what they told me was your bag. It contained an arcane tome.

Fair point. I'm not upset you weren't punished, I'm upset he tried to rationalize it to me as valid for reasons other than you've given

quit the game and came back as a gibbed guy, let me become a swarmer instead (died within a minute) good guy

Seems to be quick to ban with little investigation, or consideration for the circumstances of the players he's onto.

Brumbpo wrote:Shitcurity's favorite trialmin. Only had one personal experience with him. Was perma'd, then executed by security as someone who wasn't remotely valid. Atlanta tried to argue with me that using my headset to announce why I had been arrested (and nothing else) justified the killing. 2/10 this community can do better

Also, this. Does appear to be biased in favor of shitsec in his rulings. Claimed that an officer dedicating his entire round to hunt me down over taking a pair of sunglasses while ignoring my attempts to explain the situation was just "doing his job". Feels like the kind of person who'll interpret any situation to security's advantage.

Brumbpo wrote:Shitcurity's favorite trialmin. Only had one personal experience with him. Was perma'd, then executed by security as someone who wasn't remotely valid. Atlanta tried to argue with me that using my headset to announce why I had been arrested (and nothing else) justified the killing. 2/10 this community can do better

Sligneris wrote:Seems to be quick to ban with little investigation, or consideration for the circumstances of the players he's onto.
Also, this. Does appear to be biased in favor of shitsec in his rulings. Claimed that an officer dedicating his entire round to hunt me down over taking a pair of sunglasses while ignoring my attempts to explain the situation was just "doing his job". Feels like the kind of person who'll interpret any situation to security's advantage.

Thanks for your feedback!

cocothegogo wrote:quit the game and came back as a gibbed guy, let me become a swarmer instead (died within a minute) good guy

Uuuugh dammit I never got around to questioning the person who gibbed you

Swung in the other direction because of the shitcurity complaint.

Decided to breath down my neck and interrogate me because I N2O-brigged an Assistant who broke into the captain's office and stole his gun, his clothes, and his hand teleporter because "singulo was out". During a cult round.

Told me to handle things better, implying that killing him was a better option.

J_Madison wrote:Swung in the other direction because of the shitcurity complaint.

Decided to breath down my neck and interrogate me because I N2O-brigged an Assistant who broke into the captain's office and stole his gun, his clothes, and his hand teleporter because "singulo was out". During a cult round.

Told me to handle things better, implying that killing him was a better option.

Filling the station with naughty gasses tends to conjure the ire of SS13 admins, yes.

mrpain wrote:Filling the station with naughty gasses tends to conjure the ire of SS13 admins, yes.

To clarify, he kept someone cuffed to a bed breathing N2O internals. There was no widespread N2O release in this incident.

Oh. Well then.

N20 Brigging is shit and you shouldn't do it.

oranges wrote:N20 Brigging is shit and you shouldn't do it.

Gulag was out of commission.
Permabrig had no power and IIRC was exposed to space
Cult round.
Red alert.
Person arrested broke into captain's office stealing hand teleporter, antique laser gun, various other items.
Person arrested had shitty attitude during and after arrest.
Person arrested turned out wasn't even antag. Was extremely pissy when acting like an antag got him treated like an antag.

J_Madison wrote: Gulag was out of commission.
Permabrig had no power and IIRC was exposed to space
Cult round.
Red alert.
Person arrested broke into captain's office stealing hand teleporter, antique laser gun, various other items.
Person arrested had shitty attitude during and after arrest.
Person arrested turned out wasn't even antag. Was extremely pissy when acting like an antag got him treated like an antag.

Nothing you wrote justifies N2O internals. The more I think about this, the more I regret not giving you a ban for violating rule one. N2O puts the player (not their character) in a weird limbo state where their only choice is to wait it out and hope for the best -OR- ghost, and be unable to get back into their character. It's a fucked up limbo state and you were wrong to do it.

J_Madison wrote:

oranges wrote:N20 Brigging is shit and you shouldn't do it.

Gulag was out of commission.
Permabrig had no power and IIRC was exposed to space
Cult round.
Red alert.
Person arrested broke into captain's office stealing hand teleporter, antique laser gun, various other items.
Person arrested had shitty attitude during and after arrest.
Person arrested turned out wasn't even antag. Was extremely pissy when acting like an antag got him treated like an antag.

If it's red alert, why didn't you just kill him for being in the capt's office. You can pretty much kill anyone who is acting up on red alert.

Atlanta-Ned wrote:

J_Madison wrote: Gulag was out of commission.
Permabrig had no power and IIRC was exposed to space
Cult round.
Red alert.
Person arrested broke into captain's office stealing hand teleporter, antique laser gun, various other items.
Person arrested had shitty attitude during and after arrest.
Person arrested turned out wasn't even antag. Was extremely pissy when acting like an antag got him treated like an antag.

Nothing you wrote justifies N2O internals. The more I think about this, the more I regret not giving you a ban for violating rule one. N2O puts the player (not their character) in a weird limbo state where their only choice is to wait it out and hope for the best -OR- ghost, and be unable to get back into their character. It's a fucked up limbo state and you were wrong to do it.

Could you suggest a better method that doesn't involve killing or releasing them?

Borging.

Literally enforces immershiuns on Sybil.

All admins do that.

Yes, that's a rule.

If you don't like said rule, the door is that way.

Thank you for the positive feedback for Atlanta, I'm glad he's taken to enforcing the rules so well.

yeah, I'm aware it's valid. just something you don't see often.

A little heavy-handed on bans from what I've witnessed, which can be both good and bad. It's reassuring to see they're capable of bringing the hammer down on people who deserve it for shitty behavior. I believe with more time, experience, and exposure to difficult situations, it will pave the way to balanced judgement.

I'm enthusiastic to see how they develop.

Rwsolved a metagroup raid fairly quickly during a hub raid on Sybil. Summarily banned those involved in raiding.

Would have appreciated a closure. I didn't realise they were banned until later. This left 3 armed sec officers standing in the hallway banned but armed.

J_Madison wrote:This left 3 armed sec officers standing in the hallway banned but armed.

Not completely, Warden spotted the shenanigans while it happened and me and Detective arrived there to collect the braindeads even before the involved admin revived the victim

BananaSenor wrote:

J_Madison wrote:This left 3 armed sec officers standing in the hallway banned but armed.

Not completely, Warden spotted the shenanigans while it happened and me and Detective arrived there to collect the braindeads even before the involved admin revived the victim

I was the det. It took me a few minutes until I realised "there's 3 lootable officers" and we shuffled them away. I'm glad nothing was stolen.
I'm glad that Atlanta acted quickly and prevented more disruption.

J_Madison wrote:Rwsolved a metagroup raid fairly quickly during a hub raid on Sybil. Summarily banned those involved in raiding.

Would have appreciated a closure. I didn't realise they were banned until later. This left 3 armed sec officers standing in the hallway banned but armed.

Tasty loot piñatas, ambrosia of the assistants.

J_Madison wrote:Rwsolved a metagroup raid fairly quickly during a hub raid on Sybil. Summarily banned those involved in raiding.

Shaps did the dirty work, I just responded to the ahelps so they could focus on dropping the hammer

I'd keep a closer eye on him, I had a run in with a griffing CE and he casually said it was an IC issue and to whine to security. The same security who bashed my head in cuffed to a chair for no reason, so not only did he not bother to investigate both of the issues of the CE or HOS he kept quite about it. I knew my vengence would promptly lead to an Ahelp pissing war with the CE so I told him in advance of my action.

> Not knowing that a pyroclastic anomaly creates a red slime

I expected better from you both.

Haven't seen in game but really hard working on the wiki and forums.
Good min.

hosts fun events and maybe one too many it's an ic issue but atleast he's not lzimann.

goodmin mostly.

Used to be pretty salty about his admining. While I'm mostly fine with him now, I still believe he could act a bit less dismissive in some situations/regarding some matters.

objectively shit fourm avatar and deserves to be hung from a crane.

but other than that 10/10 good admin would admin again

chill dude, lets me meme with tc trades but does his job right when admin things need doing.

Brumbpo wrote:Shitcurity's favorite trialmin. Only had one personal experience with him. Was perma'd, then executed by security as someone who wasn't remotely valid. Atlanta tried to argue with me that using my headset to announce why I had been arrested (and nothing else) justified the killing. 2/10 this community can do better

This. I personally attribute admins that admin the way Atlanta admins for the reason people have mass-migrated to Basil

Got banned for 48h for getting revenge for shitcurity (Resolving the IC issue ICly), non-lethally.

Cw3040 wrote:Got banned for 48h for getting revenge for shitcurity (Resolving the IC issue ICly), non-lethally.

>Banned for 1440 minutes - Left the warden (Who had the disk) tied up and helpless in a locked maint room during known nuke ops because the warden tased him for running into the brig with a mask on and a clearly stolen ID. Claimed he "had no choice" and refused to acknowledge any guilt.
>Banned for 2880 minutes - This is your second ban for leaving someone naked in maintenance, so it's two days this time. Kidnapping a security officer and leaving them stranded in maint is not an acceptable IC revenge for them doing their job.

Really jogs your nog.

You didn't need to post Saeg, he has an ancap meme for his avatar. It says all you need to know

oranges wrote:You didn't need to post Saeg, he has an ancap meme for his avatar. It says all you need to know

Yep. The fact that I use a meme as my avatar because I haven't commissioned Kor's girl for art yet and can't draw worth shit is all you need to know.

Cw3040 wrote:

oranges wrote:You didn't need to post Saeg, he has an ancap meme for his avatar. It says all you need to know

Spoiler:

All you really need to know (and what my profile picture implies) is that I use memes and 2d spessmens to "cope" with the fact that I am a complete and total failure; and anytime I'm banned (and therefore can't do 2d spessmens) it commonly results in an autistic outburst and me hating the person who took it away from me forever.

dude

i need this

Armhulen wrote:

Cw3040 wrote:

oranges wrote:You didn't need to post Saeg, he has an ancap meme for his avatar. It says all you need to know

Spoiler:

All you really need to know (and what my profile picture implies) is that I use memes and 2d spessmens to "cope" with the fact that I am a complete and total failure; and anytime I'm banned (and therefore can't do 2d spessmens) it commonly results in an autistic outburst and me hating the person who took it away from me forever.

dude

i need this

what.

check my signature









this admin is really really good, ran a fun wizard event (if you could call it that) and generally was very interactive with the crew in that round

yassssssssssssss

Armhulen wrote: this admin is really really good, ran a fun wizard event (if you could call it that) and generally was very interactive with the crew in that round

yassssssssssssss

We're calling it MILDLY PERTURBED SPELLCASTERS and it's what happens when you discover that you can't switch a wizard round to Bullshit Ragin' Mages.

Armhulen wrote:check my signature

I'm glad my autism's being documented somewhere. Thanks for that.

(That was a joke thanks for coming)

Hangs out on Sybil so instant plus

Hosted the hilarious Mildly Perturbed Mages

Happy now?


Edit: Why does your feedback link still go to that deleted thread

Copybass wrote:Hangs out on Sybil so instant plus

Hosted the hilarious Mildly Perturbed Mages

Happy now?

:3c

Copybass wrote: Edit: Why does your feedback link still go to that deleted thread

woop woop, fixed.

Brief tale of a shabby round. Not a complaint but more a potential catalyst for discussion.

So I'm GROOSE the Asimov AI. I see cult stuff and shout it out to warn the crew. Security and the chaplain are killing cultists in the corridors, the Captain demands to be let in to change my laws from Asimov. I say no, you'll clearly tell me to kill cultists, boo, law 1. They adminhelp and I get BWOINKed repeatedly by Ned who gives me an earful and tells me to let him in, even though I say we both know he's going to order me to kill cultists or make me PALADIN or something. Can't do anything for ages in between constantly yelling Captain saying I'm rogue and Ned BWOINKing me saying I need to let him in or I'm violating my Asimov laws.

Anyway get PALADIN'd remotely by a roboticist, so hey ho, moot point.

Declare that I'm PALADIN on radio, security, and command channel, explain that cultists are evil and must be stopped, crew must be protected, etc. Fight the cultists along with security, command, and the chaplain for a bit, trying to sort things out as best I can. Captain has long since sauntered off. I call the shuttle to get as many to safety as I can. Then lo and behond the same Captain wordlessly turns up at my core and slowly starts breaking in. I shout out what he's doing and ask for backup, no one ever turns up, and the Captain murders me for no reason without a word. I presume he's a cult.

Turns out no, he wasn't, he killed me "for not following my laws earlier", even though we're on the same team now and supposed to be fighting cultists. I complain to Ned to no avail - he won't tell me if he told that guy he could kill me or what. Looks like a cheeky revenge kill. The same Captain causes a lot of trouble for those fighting the cultists, who manage at the last second to summon just before the shuttle I called departs. Boo. The Captain says it was totally legit in OOC at the end.

Boo hiss Ned you silly goose, come on, Asimov protects all humans, don't encourage boob Captains to cry AI ROGUE and kill anyone who upsets them, you can do better and I'm still a bit salty.

Admin complaints are next corner sir.

metacide wrote:[Brief tale of a shabby round]

I'm sorry you disagreed with my ruling on this matter. Thank you for your feedback.

Bwoinked me for lighting a few people on fire 0.5/10

calzilla1 wrote:Bwoinked me for lighting a few people on fire 0.5/10

Oh right, I almost forgot to note you for this. Thanks for reminding me!