Trialmin Review: Sawrge

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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by Lexorion » #269607

Bottom post of the previous page:

peoplearestrange wrote:Brings in to perspective if Mimicfaux really did that much wrong to warrant a firm booting.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 29#p259198
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 53&t=10011
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peoplearestrange wrote:Brings in to perspective if Mimicfaux really did that much wrong to warrant a firm booting.
No, not really...?
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by captain sawrge » #269660

geilebeer wrote:Other admins defending his antics under the guise of "issa game y so serious lmao" further soils the credibility of adminbus, atleast pretend to be unbiased because if it was anybody else he would have been ripped a new one and deadminned
What makes you think this?
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How is mimicfaux relevant? They abused their admin powers in-game which lead to deadminning. If sawrge did that i think we would have known by now
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geilebeer wrote:Other admins defending his antics under the guise of "issa game y so serious lmao" further soils the credibility of adminbus, atleast pretend to be unbiased because if it was anybody else he would have been ripped a new one and deadminned
half of this thread is people shitting on sawrge and half is him defending him, and you haven't even leveled any accusations beyond this
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

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geilebeer wrote:Other admins defending his antics under the guise of "issa game y so serious lmao" further soils the credibility of adminbus, atleast pretend to be unbiased because if it was anybody else he would have been ripped a new one and deadminned
Not an argument. Please give examples
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by NikNakFlak » #269738

Bad bans with bad investigation! https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=10182
Bad note that he said he would edit after it was already lifted by a headmin! https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=10066
and those are literally the only two things anyone has appealed by him.

Everything looks ok as I go through his bans and notes. He permabanned autinrosello's account one day randomly? No idea what that is about.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #269744

Honestly I'm just disappointed by the complete lack of investigation that he showed, more information in the note appeal niknak mentioned. He came across as very accusatory when he bwoinked me and didn't bother to respond after I defended myself. I assumed that he had taken what I said into account and I wasn't in trouble. Wasn't even aware I got a note for it until the next day when I clicked see admin remarks for whatever reason. There's also that issue of spamming FNR but he's said he won't do it again so whatever.
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Wouldn't "extend trial" appease both sides here?
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Post by Shaps-cloud » #269754

You don't have to appease the side that's just saying "oh well he shitposts in the hut I guess?". The password thing was dealt with by headmins, and even niknak can only come up with two actual questionable scenarios (both of which were handled professionally when challenged, with proper deferral to the headmin decision on the one that had one). Most of the posts here are only concerned with his posts in a shitpost forum that doesn't actually matter, sawrge conducts himself as well as anyone else in game and in actual adminning affairs
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by peoplearestrange » #269755

Maybe its more that people are obviously unhappy etc. Honestly also these days its not as if you get anymore "powers" or buttons as you migrate to gamemin so why would extending a trail be all that bad?
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Shaps-cloud wrote:You don't have to appease the side that's just saying "oh well he shitposts in the hut I guess?". The password thing was dealt with by headmins, and even niknak can only come up with two actual questionable scenarios (both of which were handled professionally when challenged, with proper deferral to the headmin decision on the one that had one). Most of the posts here are only concerned with his posts in a shitpost forum that doesn't actually matter, sawrge conducts himself as well as anyone else in game and in actual adminning affairs
I have been as clear as I possibly can that my posts are related to behavior in FNR. I realize that a lot of admins are of the opinion that FNR "doesn't actually matter" but I guarantee players would not agree with this point, particularly if they have to actually use it.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by captain sawrge » #269764

peoplearestrange wrote:Maybe its more that people are obviously unhappy etc. Honestly also these days its not as if you get anymore "powers" or buttons as you migrate to gamemin so why would extending a trail be all that bad?
This is the third trial I've had. I've been an admin for nearly two years of combined periods. Extending my trial just strikes me as pointless.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

Post by oranges » #269771

>be admin
>use my powers for bad to inconvienence a player
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>be admin
>leak some adminbus irc logs to singulo
>big witchhunt, nearly deadminned over a single set of logs

>be admin
>use my powers to leak access to closed admin forum that could affect multiple players and admins
>it wasn't serious guys, just a silly joke.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge

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Shaps-cloud wrote:You don't have to appease the side that's just saying "oh well he shitposts in the hut I guess?". The password thing was dealt with by headmins, and even niknak can only come up with two actual questionable scenarios (both of which were handled professionally when challenged, with proper deferral to the headmin decision on the one that had one). Most of the posts here are only concerned with his posts in a shitpost forum that doesn't actually matter, sawrge conducts himself as well as anyone else in game and in actual adminning affairs
I think others would disagree with you, especially the people involved in him handling their situations.
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captain sawrge wrote:
peoplearestrange wrote:Maybe its more that people are obviously unhappy etc. Honestly also these days its not as if you get anymore "powers" or buttons as you migrate to gamemin so why would extending a trail be all that bad?
This is the third trial I've had. I've been an admin for nearly two years of combined periods. Extending my trial just strikes me as pointless.
The last trial before this one you were removed for inactivity. Not a problem, just something that happens
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Post by captain sawrge » #269793

All I'm pointing out is the futility of extending this one when I've already finished three of these now. I don't really think I need another month or whatever to "learn"
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captain sawrge wrote:All I'm pointing out is the futility of extending this one when I've already finished three of these now. I don't really think I need another month or whatever to "learn"
I'm in favor of you being promoted but I disagree with this mentality

I can't explicitly word why, but I think everyone should be held to the same standard, regardless of before

The training bit, sure, but there's no harm in having a trial period
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as a certified swarge alt swargeincharge all the way.

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Delayed round end then left. smh
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Post by captain sawrge » #270933

Shadowlight213 wrote:Delayed round end then left. smh
was an honest mistake ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sawrge was promoted to game admin.
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