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Naloac wrote:Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
Reeeee wrote:adminjailed me on three word OOC post. At least I got to visit. When you say quick to react, you mean "explosive", right?
Not a bad apple, doesn't really do "bad rulings", just a hothead and cares about what she's doing, maybe bit too much?
Atmos simulator where people get killed for racism and "just cus" is the wrong place to uphold and attempt to uphold any political beliefs. Apparently me saying those three words was too much for cynic to handle so she forced her beliefs on me when i honestly did not give a fuck about them beyond hoping to get a kneejerk reaction so i got it?
OOC Cycnic: First one to pray "trans rights" gets something
OOC This_Idiot: NO TRANS RIGHTS!
*ADMINJAAAIL*
Naloac wrote:Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
NecromancerAnne wrote:I'm astonished a lot of people have come out of the woodwork to talk about their identity rather than address whether they function well in an administrative capacity.
NecromancerAnne wrote:We have had emotionally charged or passionate admins before and some of them have received praise for when they act on that or openly defend themselves.
NecromancerAnne wrote:I feel like it worth reminding people that we've had a long standing issue recently of administrative harassment, so if this is coming up a lot it's because they've been painted as a target for a few near-do-wells who you frankly shouldn't be defending.
NecromancerAnne wrote:We don't tone police but we also don't stop admins from telling people they're a piece of shit if they're being a piece of shit, since it goes both ways. You are essentially damning Cynic for the same thing you would want to permit.
NecromancerAnne wrote:There is nothing wrong with backing your stance, and you shouldn't expect people to just take openly derogatory languages or insults lying down. This has no impact whatsoever on their abilities as an admin. Yall are just being petty hypocrites.
Naloac wrote:Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
deedubya wrote:Nobody cares what gender you may or may not be.
Limey wrote:its too late.
wesoda25 wrote:...If this actually happened, and they actually ajailed you for a decent amount of time(?)...
Sandshark808 wrote:At least one person I keep in touch with out of game has had a negative experience with Cynic's thin skin that nearly delved into ingame consequences, and they haven't posted here yet. There is a pattern of truly unstable behavior here that you can't just overlook.
Limey wrote:its too late.
Qbopper wrote:Sandshark808 wrote:At least one person I keep in touch with out of game has had a negative experience with Cynic's thin skin that nearly delved into ingame consequences, and they haven't posted here yet. There is a pattern of truly unstable behavior here that you can't just overlook.
you didn't even bother to provide a story
this is not useful feedback
[Some admin's] conduct was on point and actually should be praised considering they kept their cool around a person insulting them in ahelps[.]
NecromancerAnne wrote:There is nothing wrong with backing your stance, and you shouldn't expect people to just take openly derogatory languages or insults lying down.
Arathian wrote:NecromancerAnne wrote:There is nothing wrong with backing your stance, and you shouldn't expect people to just take openly derogatory languages or insults lying down.
Insult them back. It crosses the line when you use your admeme powers to punish something that shouldn't be punished. I will never blame a mod for telling someone insulting them to fuck off and die. I will if they do that and then ban them for insulting them.
This isn't about cynic, just a general statement.
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
Reeeee wrote:adminjailed me on three word OOC post. At least I got to visit. When you say quick to react, you mean "explosive", right?
Not a bad apple, doesn't really do "bad rulings", just a hothead and cares about what she's doing, maybe bit too much?
<snip a bunch of stuff jesus libby>
04:13:34 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "first person to pray trans rights gets a thing" (189, 213, 2) Space
04:13:51 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "trans don't have rights." (101, 149, 2) Atmospherics
04:14:20 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "no, i actually 100% beleive that as long it triggers someone." (126, 130, 2) Port Primary Hallway
04:15:02 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "right to get beat to shit on soem dark alley i guess." (150, 147, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:15:49 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "depends on how much you believe me after years of pulling peoples leg" (149, 52, 2) Departure Lounge
04:16:07 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Hey libby" (147, 111, 2) Corporate Showroom
04:16:10 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Quit it " (147, 111, 2) Corporate Showroom
04:16:15 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Or I'll fucking dab on you " (147, 120, 2) Space
04:16:18 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "quit what?" (152, 59, 2) Departure Lounge
04:16:18 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Not joking " (147, 137, 2) Bridge
04:16:30 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "YOU'RE MEMING TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN GAMER" (135, 177, 2) Custodial Closet
04:16:35 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "DIAL IT BACK" (163, 134, 2) Captain's Office
04:16:39 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "having my own belief system that's not in anyway related to you?" (152, 59, 2) Departure Lounge
04:16:54 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Just cut out the transphobia stuff aight?" (135, 111, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:17:01 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "did you not read it" (148, 52, 2) Departure Lounge
04:17:25 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) ""LibbySnow: no, i actually 100% beleive that as long it triggers someone."" (148, 52, 2) Departure Lounge
04:18:03 OOC LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "hey, you bring it up, i make fun of it" (152, 105, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:18:12 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) toggled OOC.
04:18:29 OOC Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "There now you all get a time out" (106, 121, 2) Port Maintenance
04:22:49 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) checked the individual player panel for LibbySnow/(K1TTY).
04:22:56 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) has sent LibbySnow/(K1TTY) to Prison!
04:23:04 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "oh, so you are shitminning" (174, 107, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:07 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "okay then" (174, 107, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:15 ACCESS Mob Login: Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
04:23:15 GAME Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) Client Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) has taken ownership of mob Sheri Ruiz(/mob/living/carbon/human) (177, 109, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:20 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Waaaa" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:21 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "waaa" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:22 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "waaaaa" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:23 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "waaaa" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:24 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "mm?" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:25 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "waaaa" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:23:38 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "so do you actually want to have a dicussion`?" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:52 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "i am here" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:55 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "discuss" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:23:59 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) changed the equipment of Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) to /datum/outfit/job/assistant.
04:24:02 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Okay" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:24:04 EMOTE Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) wags her tail. (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:24:13 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "or do you jsut wanna asspull shit?" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:24:20 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Let's discuss" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:24:22 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "either works, i got youtube" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:24:31 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "and netflix and wahtnot" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:24:32 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) spawned /obj/structure/chair/comfy/teal (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:24:45 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "So" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:24:48 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "sooo" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:24:53 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "I was just planning to leave it at muting ooc" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:25:05 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "But then you had to be a real gamer about it" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:25:09 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "not really, we boht know that but lets assume so" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:25:25 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Not really?" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:25:31 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "I dunno, you bring up political matters in OOC" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:25:38 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "it's gonna be made fun off" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:25:42 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "you KNOW this." (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:25:49 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "you have to know that" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:25:49 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "It's not that" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:26:04 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "don't act hurt after the fact kitty" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:26:09 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "It's that you did it in an manner that made people uncomfortable" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:26:23 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "So I was like hey knock it off" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:26:30 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "I was just expecting you to shut up about it" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:26:33 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Cause who cares" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:26:59 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "what, making fun of it? I know transpeople and if you are so fucking WEAK that you can't take shit on internet, you really don't belong there, much less fucking TG where one can say nigger freely." (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:27:07 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "trans are strong" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:27:13 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "they give a shit and move on" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:27:20 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "well, not give a shit" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:27:36 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Bruh this stuff is more complicated than that" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:27:50 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "so, if someone actually goes "oh no muh feelings" they are really not trans" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:27:54 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "A lot of people come to this game to escape negative shit like that ya know?" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:27:55 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "they can't be" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:01 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "TG" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:12 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "literally nigger is a wrod you can say out loud" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:23 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "You're weirdly deadset on this shit" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:28:31 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "i'm dead set on anything" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:38 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "as long as it gets a response" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:42 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "honk" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:28:51 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "What a strange way to conduct yourself" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:28:56 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "i know" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:29:00 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "i have braindamage" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:29:08 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Have you tried just not doing that?" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:29:14 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "yes, i doesn't work" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:29:22 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Wild" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:29:29 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "i say shit outloud." (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:29:37 SAY Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) "Anyway, shut the fuck up and go back to your space man game" (176, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:29:44 ADMIN Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) used gibself.
04:29:44 ACCESS Mob Login: Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
04:29:44 GAME Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) Client Cynic716/(Sheri Ruiz) has taken ownership of mob Sheri Ruiz(/mob/dead/observer) (177, 108, 1) CentCom Docks
04:29:52 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "great" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:29:55 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "she made mess" (174, 108, 1) Admin Prison
04:30:01 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "that's gonna bother me so much" (192, 68, 1) Bay #1
04:30:17 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "uuh" (181, 83, 1) CentCom Docks
04:30:22 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "I MUST CLEAN IT" (182, 82, 1) CentCom Docks
04:30:35 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "mmm" (182, 83, 1) CentCom Docks
04:30:49 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "heck" (181, 81, 1) CentCom Docks
04:31:05 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "I MSUT CLEAN IT" (193, 66, 1) Bay #1
04:31:10 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "AAAAAA" (194, 66, 1) Bay #1
04:31:55 SAY LibbySnow/(K1TTY) "that's totally gonna triger my OCD, not lceaning gibs on centcom" (146, 162, 2) Atrium
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
NecromancerAnne wrote:I'm astonished a lot of people have come out of the woodwork to talk about their identity rather than address whether they function well in an administrative capacity.
deedubya wrote:I won't argue the specifics of this particular instance of administrative abuse, despite my opinion on how it was mishandled. This isn't a ban appeal or admin complaint topic, so this is hardly the place to do so. I wouldn't voice concerns over one small incident regardless. I only do so when patterns of repeated and concerning behavior show themselves, which I believe is happening.
I'd also like to state that Dr. Aura managed to mirror my concerns in a less abrasive and more eloquent manner.NecromancerAnne wrote:I'm astonished a lot of people have come out of the woodwork to talk about their identity rather than address whether they function well in an administrative capacity.
Believe it or not, we(the royal we here) don't want to make it about their identity. The only reason it comes up is because several people are of the opinion that they force their identity upon situations where it's not appropriate, and regardless of if the people involved want it or not. They then proceed to take administrative action upon it, or have it done on their behalf. Like I said in an above post, nobody cares or wants to know what gender identity you may or may not have. People just want to converse in a way that's been considered socially acceptable for this community since the day it was founded, without having to worry about spinning the awho roulette of potential victimhood.
bobbahbrown wrote:snip
Limey wrote:its too late.
Qbopper wrote:bobbahbrown wrote:snip
yeah when this is put into context the complaints really stop holding up
Arathian wrote:NecromancerAnne wrote:There is nothing wrong with backing your stance, and you shouldn't expect people to just take openly derogatory languages or insults lying down.
Insult them back. It crosses the line when you use your admeme powers to punish something that shouldn't be punished. I will never blame a mod for telling someone insulting them to fuck off and die. I will if they do that and then ban them for insulting them.
This isn't about cynic, just a general statement.
Arianya wrote:The only real caveat to that is that if someone's gotten under your skin you probably shouldn't moderate them and hand it off to someone else, but this is more a "best practices" thing not a "oh my god heresy" thing, especially if an admin is alone.
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
qbopper wrote:snip
oranges wrote:no doubt libby could do with being told to shut the fuck up a lot more, since her parents are obviously not doing it for her
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
Nervere wrote:I have seen someone like Cynic a million times before.
They will cause deep-rooted problems with the administration.
Cynic weaponizes (directly or indirectly) their powers as an admin to either directly punish people with whom they personally disagree, or use their leverage as an admin to achieve the same effect.
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
cynic716 wrote:I feel like the other bagilmins can attest that the worst thing I do is play too many midis.
cynic716 wrote:example: no one in politics containment has called me a tranny (surprisingly) the only times it's happened it was 100% unprovoked. You have literally seen each of these instances yourself.
cynic716 wrote:I do argue in politics sometimes but I have never actually made any attempt to ban anyone I disagree with there aside from screaming with hyperbole at other left leaning admins in chatter
cynic716 wrote:In fact I'm downright baffled that people have gotten this weird idea in their heads that I'm super overly emotional and "weaponize" my adminpowers
cynic716 wrote:Hey gamers I'd appreciate if you didn't joke around about serious topics like trans suicide. I won't be enforcing any admeme stuff on you about it but that sort of thing is extremely sensitive ya know? Anyway I hope you have fun posting
terranaut wrote:Scared? My stand 「CLOWN WORLD」 and it's 「FUNNY COMPANY」will defeat your weak stand in moments.
IkeTG wrote:love is okayCreationPro wrote:i love youIkeTG wrote:love is no longer okay
cynic716 wrote:Real goddamn ballsy of Ner "trannies are mentally ill" vere to come in and talk shit. Btw the minecraft bee thing has NOTHING to do with the stupid fictional bee, people were actively joking about trans suicide. Something I find really goddamn gross, and thus started calling them out for. How about you try not to be a dishonest lowlife for once? PS real cool of you to be talking about leveraging admin power when you couldn't get shezza's toes out of your mouth long enough to actually do anything other than cry about minor game changes during your whole term.
cynic716 wrote:In fact I'm downright baffled that people have gotten this weird idea in their heads that I'm super overly emotional and "weaponize" my adminpowers
FloranOtten wrote:cynic716 wrote:Real goddamn ballsy of Ner "trannies are mentally ill" vere to come in and talk shit. Btw the minecraft bee thing has NOTHING to do with the stupid fictional bee, people were actively joking about trans suicide. Something I find really goddamn gross, and thus started calling them out for. How about you try not to be a dishonest lowlife for once? PS real cool of you to be talking about leveraging admin power when you couldn't get shezza's toes out of your mouth long enough to actually do anything other than cry about minor game changes during your whole term.
You say thiscynic716 wrote:In fact I'm downright baffled that people have gotten this weird idea in their heads that I'm super overly emotional and "weaponize" my adminpowers
Isn't that kind of contradictory, to say you're baffled by the accusation of being emotional, only to blow up and make a personal attack on someone after leaving criticism in your trialmin review?
Arianya wrote:Without being untoward, I would say that you could replace cynic's name on the above post with several other prominent user's names and it would be seen as pretty standard for /tg/ - and certainly not "emotional".
Sandshark808 wrote:Arianya wrote:Without being untoward, I would say that you could replace cynic's name on the above post with several other prominent user's names and it would be seen as pretty standard for /tg/ - and certainly not "emotional".
Would those prominent users be considered for a gamemin spot?
Sandshark808 wrote:Arianya wrote:Without being untoward, I would say that you could replace cynic's name on the above post with several other prominent user's names and it would be seen as pretty standard for /tg/ - and certainly not "emotional".
Would those prominent users be considered for a gamemin spot?
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