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I strongly suspected the borgs were one humaned by the Captain because of their increasingly strange behavior throughout the round after the Captain had entered their upload and seemingly changed the laws. I had asked twice if I could blow the borgs to no response (because there was no admin online apparently). They were constantly complimenting the Captain and calling her pretty and essentially threatening people who called the Captain ugly - Pepper Oni.
Naloac wrote:Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
NikNakFlak wrote:Is using a Christmas themed discord name before thanksgiving has even happened.
This is completely unacceptable behavior from an admin, I expected better.
If MSO wasn't inactive, I'm sure he would have banned Cynic.
Besides that, I have no opinion.
confused rock wrote:Sandshark you almost had an original thought with "laying low for 2 months doesn't justify a promotion" but are you sure they weren't just playing different servers than you? a year's a really long time.
NecromancerAnne wrote:I strongly doubt either Deedubya or Sandshark have even remotely encountered them outside of hearsay and in the NTR hut, and unless they have some actual firsthand experiences to provide that isn't in the context of a shitpost board then this is just a repeat of what got Cynic delayed in the first place, which was crock. If we're taking NTR Hut Drama Weenies words as constructive feedback I really don't know what to think.
deedubya wrote:Have you perhaps considered the possibility that things outside of your narrow viewpoint could be true?
I understand wanting to stick up for a friend, I really do. But it would be more beneficial to everyone involved to take a more objective look at their overall behavior and temperament. Just because they're your friend, doesn't mean they're well-suited to a position of power. Cronyism is not good practice.
Gigapuddi420 wrote:Not really seeing any proper criticism here of how Cynic currently is as a admin compared to how they were when the trial was extended. From what I can tell on statbus they have played a little and admin a little in the past month, it wouldn't be unfair to say they've kept their head down but on the flip-side that seemed to be what people wanted from them.
Literally nothing said in this thread is about how they currently are and it's disgusting. Not that I expected anything better.
oranges wrote:are you being a dick on purpose?
Sandshark808 wrote:oranges wrote:are you being a dick on purpose?
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
oranges wrote:Sandshark808 wrote:oranges wrote:are you being a dick on purpose?
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
You didn't answer the question
oranges wrote:answer the question
Sandshark808 wrote:he
Anonymous wrote:Cynic is a fart huffing smoothbrain
wesoda25 wrote:as an aside deadmin cynic already
cynic716 wrote:Sandshark808 wrote:he
don't call me a he you fucking dirt reptile
Second, deeb and sand are both people I have literally never interacted with (at least not knowingly or willingly) at any time outside of the forums. Third, imagine thinking that either of them have opinions worth listening to in any context except when deciding which brand of paint you'd like to taste. Fourth, my initial delay was complete horseshit based on hearsay and outright LIES it basically boiled down to "stop disagreeing with people for saying really horrible shit that we agree is horrible and do not want them to say but let them say anyway" and also that one incident with Dr. Aura where he told me he's allowed to make shitty transphobic jokes because "as a soldier" he's "trained to lack empathy" (he actually said that I swear to god)
In all honesty though if I got like any reason other than the one they gave I'd be pretty chill about it and I do still love all the head jannies, I just think they made a really bone headed decision on this particular topic and I ain't afraid to tell them so. also cynic is a call admin make her headmin NOW
Arianya wrote:While I don't have any co-adminning experience with cynic (different servers, timezones, etc), I will note that if you try to make a point about their conduct/presence as an admin and then undercut it by going out of your way to do something you know aggravates them, your opinion rapidly becomes less relevant to any reviewing headmin.
Sandshark808 wrote:Arianya wrote:While I don't have any co-adminning experience with cynic (different servers, timezones, etc), I will note that if you try to make a point about their conduct/presence as an admin and then undercut it by going out of your way to do something you know aggravates them, your opinion rapidly becomes less relevant to any reviewing headmin.
Thank you for the heads-up. Hopefully the headmins will chime in if someone does that.
Gigapuddi420 wrote:Lets be clear here, Cynic's trial wasn't extended for any admin abuse in-game. The reason given was for their attitude in discord where they got into arguments then seek action when they felt the other party went too far; they are still active on discord now and I've seen them talk from time to time in the discussion-general area without falling into the same trap. The issue that extended the original trial has not come up again, I've seen nothing concerning from them and it's clear to me that they haven't completely given up on the community either.
This, essentially. The question here is whether someone would make a decent admin, not whether you want to be their friend. There have been plenty of admins who I personally found insufferable, but who did their job well enough. If Cynic doesn't do the job properly, then they'll get deadminned. But until then, all I see is a trialmin who wised up and passed their trial.terranaut wrote:This is something I've noticed aswell and is part of the reason I was for an extension initially; the fact that they understood this and changed their behavior shows that they're not a complete denthead and capable of reviewing their own actions, coming to a good conclusion and changing their behavior accordingly, which is a trait more admins should have.
confused rock wrote:Has cynic considered that sandshark just didn’t think about it and said “he” without intending offense? Probably not.
This is a very fair point.Dr. Aura wrote:Spoiler:
Naloac wrote:Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
NecromancerAnne wrote:If inactivity is an issue then we should have a look at some of our senior admins and their in-game administrative time. This is a voluntary position not a day job. If you wanna have minimum hours start paying us a goddamn wage.
While we don't have issue with their adminning within the game
Jimmius wrote:but sir! it behooves me to remind you that the rationale behind the extention was their OUT of game conduct! forsooth! verily! as such, their activity in game has no bearing on such matters! it is quite improper of you, dear sir, to bring up such information (see appendix a) in a review thread about their out of game conduct! for, as i'm sure you must realize mister sir, their old review thread ended with a post detailing information thusly:While we don't have issue with their adminning within the game
quite improper of you sir! quite improper indeed! indubitably so, and thus i will advance the argument that this review thread, being made to review how they've been out of game, only requires information vis a vis (as they say in french) their out of game conduct, which clearly by posting about something else means that you must, indeed find most cromulent!
but that is not all! nay! in this 20,000 word pdf i shall attach as a companion piece to my argument, i will further detail all the ways in which your argument about activity is not relevant, but in an increasingly tedious way as you realize I'm just repeating the same point over and over.
appendix a:Spoiler:
cynic716 wrote:my initial delay was complete horseshit based on hearsay and outright LIES
Dr. Aura wrote:In case you don't want to read that either, I'll surmise my point: Choosing not to admin for 40 days doesn't prove Cynic has improved with the headmin suggestions that extended their trial in the first place.
We have decided to extend Cynic trial for further observation due to issues rising up recently regarding their conflict resolution skills. While we don't have issue with their adminning within the game, we are concerned with their conflicts outside the game itself.
confused rock wrote:I wouldn’t apologize if someone called me a “fucking dirt reptile” at such “provocation”.
Sandshark808 wrote:If this is about changing their behavior, didn't they admit they think it was bullshit and aren't committed to changing?
Also, raging out about every little thing is one of the reasons for the delay. Raging out in this thread too doesn't help their case.
This is not a place for complaints about forum/discord behaviour.
Gigapuddi420 wrote:I appreciate your point is that there isn't much to judge on their in-game admin actions during this trial extension but the extension had nothing to do with their in-game administrative abilities. This isn't the first review; their in-game actions didn't raise any red flags, or at least nothing that was mentioned to be worked upon. It seems pretty disingenuous to use their in-game time to judge improvement on conflicts 'outside of the game'. If anything keeping out of those toxic arguments or ducking out when they heat up is exactly what was asked for them and it's kind of disingenuous to claim they haven't shown that based on 'in-game activity'.
Gigapuddi420 wrote:I think it can be fair to expect some activity from admins but I also feel Cynic taking a break is a good thing for them, I'd still rather see some actual concrete testimony on why they shouldn't be admin besides people not having worked along side them but disliking the arguments they previously had outside of the game. I have more respect for Wesoda's "I don't like them but they've done what was asked" then some of the shit you guys are throwing around.
Agux909 wrote:Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
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