/tg/Station 13

• It commits the cardinal sin of wiki articles by using statements like "trust me", "we highly recommend", stuff like that, in addition to in general being poorly formatted and kinda gross to look at
• Does a terrible job of explaining what the game is about with a quick summary - "Space Station 13 is a 2D multiplayer space station simulator with fully destructable environments" is not only spelled incorrectly, it makes it sound like some kinda scifi Battlefield in 2D. The page located here does a decent job of conveying the concept, but people browsing the "how to play" guide are going to want a quick summary (and trust me, getting people to read things beyond what's necessary is a giant pain - anyone that does is a rarity)
• It asks new players to read the rules, which is fine and necessary, but if a new player continues past the main rules to precedents/anything else on the page, they'll be overwhelmed quickly
• As mentioned above, the guide suffers from telling you what to do and not explaining why - the exercises do little in the way of helping you understand what's going on or why things work the way they do.
• The guide assumes that everything on the station is fine and you can follow the exercises to the letter, and we all know that's rarely the case - there's been a few times I've seen an obviously new player struggling to put on a new pair of shoes without realizing they're suffocating, bumping around in the dark without a light source, things like that

factoryman942 wrote:ok
that's a good thing

Also, the writing task on the current page was confusing as fuck when I first started. Probably because the pen/paper bin are behind a windoor and/or door which are ID-locked to dissuade minor IC crime or something
idk

factoryman942 wrote:Images are kinda big, and interrupt the flow of text. Ideally they'd be smaller, or expandable or something, and on the side of the page so the text can flow around it.

Detective guy is cool
I approve

Bawhoppennn wrote:The new player guide needs to teach you the essence of the game, not directly on what to do.

factoryman942 wrote:encourage the new players to play engineer
create a generation of people who know how to set up sm

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I really like this guide. It's clear , direct, and stylishly put together.

My only real gripe is that you cheerfully tell everyone... the wrong controls. New players start without Hotkey mode on, and if they follow your directions for keybondings and movement they're stuffed.

XDTM wrote:For my part, i'm starting to write up indepth about game mechanics; i already wrote up the https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Health page, and i'm going to add Status effects for stuns and such, differences between complex and simple mobs, how chemicals work, and so on.

John_Oxford wrote:critcism and corrections on whats already there

"There's no difference between clothing/backpack options other than appearance, so pick what you think looks best."

this is incorrect, dufflebags slow but have more space, normal backpacks are normal backpacks, and i think leather satchels has some bullshit about having less space? maybe? correct me if im wrong

satchels are cosmetic, I use leather satchels - are dufflebags selectable at character customization?

you're correct about clothing however.

"Attacking other crewmembers without any reason. This is only okay if you're an antagonist, and you will ne notified when you're chosen to be one."

spelling error

I don't mind if people fix these as long as they make it a minor edit/say what they changed

"(The numbers in brackets next to a job show the current number of that role - a zero means there are no players with that job in the game. When you click on the job you want, you'll be brought to the station onboard the arrival shuttle."

rephrasing: "The numbers in the brackets next to the job title show the current number of players who have been assigned that job for the round, if there is a zero inside the brackets, no one has been assigned to that job for the round. When you click on the job you want, you'll be brought to the station via the arrivals shuttle. The arrivals shuttle will start in transit, be sure not to unbuckle yourself until it comes to a stop"

probably a good change, will reword that section

it looks good

ty

Lazengann wrote:If you drink the angel potion, a backpack will be unequipped and you can't wear backpacks any more. You can, however, wear satchels as they don't get in the way of the wings.

Lazengann wrote:If you drink the angel potion, a backpack will be unequipped and you can't wear backpacks any more. You can, however, wear satchels as they don't get in the way of the wings.

BeeSting12 wrote:@Qbopper
Yeah duffel bags are selectable as a character customization option.

Armhulen wrote:

Lazengann wrote:If you drink the angel potion, a backpack will be unequipped and you can't wear backpacks any more. You can, however, wear satchels as they don't get in the way of the wings.

fuck satchel wearing binches

Qbopper wrote:anyways to whoever has been editing the page: I appreciate it but I reverted a change because honestly I really didn't like some of the writing style, and it changed some existing sentences to flow worse than they did before for some reason

I did keep good stuff like the hotkey image and shit but yeah please don't take it personally

Does a terrible job of explaining what the game is about with a quick summary - "Space Station 13 is a 2D multiplayer space station simulator with fully destructable environments" is not only spelled incorrectly, it makes it sound like some kinda scifi Battlefield in 2D.

The Clowns Pocket wrote:

Does a terrible job of explaining what the game is about with a quick summary - "Space Station 13 is a 2D multiplayer space station simulator with fully destructable environments" is not only spelled incorrectly, it makes it sound like some kinda scifi Battlefield in 2D.

This is going to be a problem because the games quite a few different things to different people. Certainly anything else is better then this discriptor, but I haven't the foggiest how to describe SS13 in one sentance.