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silly oxford of course ill play your dumb rust simulator
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Post by John_Oxford » #307665

hey you i made a discord for this
unironically its the repurposed "global" discord: https://discord.gg/r8RbkeP

terribly misleading title but i didn't bother thinking of a better one.

some bloated context as to what im doing:
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had a idea, kind of a shitty one and one that's been proven to be heavily drama filled and filled with unsavory niggers everywhere but here goes

the idea stems from playing on some of the f13 servers, some mistakes we're made, some drama occured, and overall godsring, angelic, mac, and all those other people (including the russians and brazilians [looking at you OCP]) made some mistakes of their own and had a entirely different vision for the project.

what i was thinking, is something like CDDA mixed with fallout mixed with f13 mixed with 7 days to die.

incorperating CDDAs depth eventually (that being a goal) and from my understanding of how byond works (please correct me if im wrong) but adding code, so long as its not in a map (like say adding a zippo but not putting it on any of the maps) doesn't generate any more lag or bloat or longer loading times then anything else since it's not actually in a map and not actually interacting with anything (please correct me if this is horribly wrong)

then taking some shit from fallouts lore and design like power armor/weapons/certain fauna/overall shits fucked yo levels of destruction

then taking assets from f13 (possibly not since the code i have is butchered russian/brazilian/tg/angelic/mapping nightmare cancer

then i don't even know why i put 7 days to die i thought its a good game but you get my point of what im getting at
more or less im going to take /tg/ code and try my hand at making a survival game. probally going to implode on itself, im probally going to give up after trying to figure out how to host it, im probally just going to open up dm, delete all the station maps then get bored and say fuck it and drop the project entirely but atleast a year from now i can look back at this thread and go "hey why don't i try that again"


the entire reason in making this thread is one question

if its not dog shit, if it looks good, if its based off of tg code, would you play it?

SPRITE REQUESTS

I need the following;

Run down wall (weathering/sun chipping away at paint)
Run down metal wall (weather/rust)
Custom wooden floor tiles
Retro/fallout esqe casino tiles
Better (not fucking all white) snow tiles (grey scale ect)
Your own brand of vending machine (need a softdrink one, a snack bar one, and a laptop/tablet vendor one, it CANNOT be in 3/4ths perspective, we're going for a retro feel here so make it the old way) (will happily make it your own in the game ie "Pkportable Microcomputers" or some shit)

SOUND REQUESTS

I need the following:

Ambient kind of snow storm wind blowing sort of shit
A decent door opening sound that isn't fucking creaking super hard (wood and metal doors)
Zippo opening, zippo closing, and zippo burning sound
Fire burning sound (like a campfire, logs cracking ect)
Gun sounds
-putting a magazine in a rifle
-taking a magazine out of a rifle
-clearing a casing from a rifle
-charging a rifle
-aim up/aim down sound (the sound of shuffling from pointing a gun at someone to putting it back down)
-putting a magazine into a pistol (light-think a small handgun like a walther PPK with a thin magazine)
-pulling a magazine out of a pistol (light-think a small handgun like a walther PPK with a thin magazine)
-putting a magazine into a pistol (heavy-think a large handgun like a desert eagle or 1911, big heavy mag hitting against thicc metal)
-pulling a magazine out of a pistol (heavy-think a large handgun like a desert eagle or 1911, big heavy mag hitting against thicc metal)
-racking a handgun slide (light)
-racking a handgun slide (heavy)
-shotgun pump
-shotgun shell loading
-sound of boots crunching snow (walking in snow)
-sound of boots on a metal floor
-sound of boots on a wooden floor (don't make it creaky and shit just assume its a hard tile floor, like a gym floor)
-sound of a door being kicked down






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so more or less im going to take a whole shitload of tg content and use it as placeholders untill i can make my own custom sprites, it's going to basically be alot of these:
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*trees clipping into the window and walls were removed

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bucket list of shit to try to get in
-mres
-hunger/thirst
-stages of hypothermia
-better pocket/carrying system (maybe try doing it how neoscavenger did it)
-fires added to crafting menu
-axes to cut down trees
-scabbards for these axes
-normalized civilian clothing (plaid/polyester shirts/shorts/khakis/jeans ect)
-plaid shirt
-jeans
-button up shirt (red-blue-green-white-black)
-fishing shirts (long sleve polyester)
-cargo pants
-cargo shorts
-larger selections of weaponry (porting ak series from other server, hunting rifles, assault rifles, revolvers, handguns)
-handgun series
  -russian shit (makarovs, toks, pm33s, other fictional russian handguns)
  -american shit (m9a2's and a3's, glocks, sigs, colts, springfields)
   -other assorted imported shit
-ar series
-stock ar15s
-fudd ar15s
-tactical ar15s
-future ar pattern rifles (ar35's)
-ar pistols
-ak series
-ak74
-ak107s
-aek-971's
-foot note explaining the lack of older shittier pattern AK's
-fudd hunting rifles
-mostly remingtons, particularly 770s
-carbines/battle rifles
-ar10s
-m110s
-assorted battle rifles
-milspec rifles
-m4s
-future m4's
-m4 pistols
-precision rifles
-auto shotguns
-saigas
-double barrel shotguns
-adapters to fire different calibers
-revolvers
-hunting revolvers (454.)
-energy pistols
-energy rifles
-energy carbines
-overpowered long range precision energy sniper rifle
-swords (kukris, machetes, huntsman knives)
-scabbards for all of these
-combat axes
-scabbard for axes
-combat hatchets
-scabbard for hatchets

-holsters and slings for all of the weapons
-a actual story (background story similar to how nanotrasen v syndicate interacts with ss13)
-cataclysmic event on earth - generic survival story
-earth already destroyed - aliens and shit teleport survivors to paralell universe something
-crashing on another planet that happens to be near exactly like earth
-modular body armor
-different level plate carriers
-different types of attachments for magazines/ect
-redo guncode to be modular so its simply changing variables and slapping a different sprite and sound on (assuming it isn't already)
-basically opening a new gun file will be changing variables, sprites, and sounds
-food items (canned beans/pork/chicken/turkey)
-vitamin/nutrient system
-a lack of most vitamins will only result in a small debuff, continued lack of them will result in actual sickness though (but that will take excess of four hours)
-the simplicity of /tg/ med but with more shit to fix more shit to varying degrees (makeshift bandage = 5 brute heal/50% to stop bleeding brute kit = 40 brute heal/doesnt stop bleeding quickclot = 2 brute delt/100% chance to stop bleeding)
-make shitty meds either craftable or very common but make them, well. shitty.
-make super meds occur at the end and during mini dungeons and shit
-porting (not porting but making) autoinjectors more common place as medical items
-different ammounts and qualitiys of auto injectors for both shit med and op med
-add more constructables (furniture/wooden walls/different types of wooden barricades)
-to further base building
-add more clutter (nails now come in nail boxes which now come in nail crates, none of which vanish when you take everything out of them, ect ect)
-maybe not alot of clutter because ill probally get bored of making shit that has no use
-figure out how to add ambient sound
-like the blizzard sound ect
-figure out how to make local sounds (sounds emitting from a object)
-radios
-jukeboxes
-hearing footsteps/gunshots/ect
-weather (seasons changing every 45 minutes?)
-maybe just have summer or just have winter
-day/night
-every 30 minutes maybe?

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*lots of features can be ported from some of the old f13 code (such as day/night-weather-hunger/thirst)
*figure out how to port shit

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Bawhoppennn wrote:Actually an openworld gamemode where you build stuff and survive based on ss13 mechanics/engine would be very fun.
People go crazy for Goof's dwarves because that's basically the only thing we have for it as is (and there's also the meme factor with dorfs)

We should actually develop something like it for real, but that's alot of work and nobody has bothered.

Also, this is not exactly a new idea, basically everyone and their brother has thought of something along those lines before.
ye survival games aren't really a original idea but i mean like a -entire- server, not a map

basically learn from the mistakes of F13, make it open source, without ERP, and without shitty ported cykablyat code

im just going to take all the tg assets as place holders and build a map (which is the really easy fun part) then go about trying to make half decent wall/floor/tree/door/ect sprites

another thought, most of these servers go with a theme in terms of weather (desert/snow/ect)

i was thinking more of a side by side z level linked map, in game maps would be like grids showing what each grid was, be it a town, fuckhuge desert, or mountain

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MREs:

10 come in a box.

5 are beef stew, 5 are roasted chicken breast [Menu I]
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Beef Stew:
1x Beef Stew pouch
1x Dehydrated Rice pouch
1x Roasted Almond pouch
1x Ration Heater [FL]
1x Accessory pack (salt, pepper, water purification tablets, napkins, hand wipes)
1x Orange based beverage powder
1x 2-count biscuit pack

Chicken:

1x Roasted Chicken pouch
1x Beef Noodles pouch
1x Sugared Rasins pouch
1x Ration Heater [FL]
1x Accessory pack (salt, pepper, water purification tablets, napkins, hand wipes, seasoning pack for the noodles)
1x Apple Cider mix
1x Apple sauce pouch

*make sprites for all this shit


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Axe:
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Comes in a leather scabbard that is a back item.

Click on the scabbard to draw the axe then use the axe in your hand to wield it with both hands. Six hits on a tree will take the tree down netting 3-5 logs.

Does 12 brute and has a chance to remove limbs.

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the ar35 cause future and stuff
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basically a ar pattern rifle but in the future

tac version has a shorter click delay (more bullets down range)
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Post by Bawhoppennn » #307680

Actually an openworld gamemode where you build stuff and survive based on ss13 mechanics/engine would be very fun.
People go crazy for Goof's dwarves because that's basically the only thing we have for it as is (and there's also the meme factor with dorfs)

We should actually develop something like it for real, but that's alot of work and nobody has bothered.

Also, this is not exactly a new idea, basically everyone and their brother has thought of something along those lines before.
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Post by John_Oxford » #307681

-moved to main post because it addresses a concept too-
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Post by ShadowDimentio » #307682

This is basically extended on planetstation
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ShadowDimentio wrote:This is basically extended on planetstation
I don't think you understand what planetstation is supposed to be
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<+KorPhaeron> russians have no souls so magic enrages them
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Post by kevinz000 » #307724

maybe you should try coding a gamemode for this instead of a new game hm.
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Post by John_Oxford » #307803

kevinz000 wrote:maybe you should try coding a gamemode for this instead of a new game hm.
planetstation isn't the same as this but it takes up the majority of the purpose as a "new and original planetside map"

that and i plan to add shit that doesn't really mesh well with 30 minute rounds. most rounds played would clock 2-3 hours, then generally midnight to eight would be one whole round
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updates on progress
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #308371

Your gun sprites are improving, keep it up
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I'm far from a master spriter but you definitely need outlines on those sprites, ask WJ about it.

(when I say outlines, I mean borders)
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Post by John_Oxford » #308555

it orginally had borders, super bold borders, like basically black close to nigger black

but i removed them on the premise that i remember someone saying "hey don't make black outlines on everything"

so i said fuck it and removed the fuck out of them outlines
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Post by Remie Richards » #308639

"don't make black outlines" doesn't mean "don't have outlines"

Generally the outline of any sprite is a darker version of the main colour*
ie: if the gun was light grey, you take that same grey and drop it by 10-20 luminosity (use a real image editor, not DM) and then use the new (10-20 less lum) colour for your outline.

*unless you're doing something really stylistic, which doesn't fit SS13 so it's not relevant.
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Post by kevinz000 » #308665

right
i have a question for the maintainers
does... survival, using SS13 as an engine, have any chance (of being merged, as a gamemode or map) on: 1. vanilla ss13 2. planetstation
maybe i'm just getting baited but this one of oxford's only good ideas.
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Post by John_Oxford » #308667

kevinz000 wrote:maybe i'm just getting baited but this one of oxford's only good ideas.
how to talk yourself out of a already completed 90 hours worth of work in one simple step

edit: its been attempted by f13 but thats fallout. the premise behind this is doing it better.
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