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Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Slignerd » #372336

oranges being oranges and purging PR feedback
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lzimann being lzimann and closing things on a whim,
as well as disregarding the 24 hour rule
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We've had this talk before, but looking at a recent PR and recalling many others like it, maybe it's time to talk about this again. We should seriously decide on a firm policy on maintainer conduct. Perhaps maintainers should no longer be able to delete comments, and perhaps some maintainers should lose the rank entirely.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by SpaceInaba » #372337

oranges didn't do anything wrong he deleted posts that pertained to lzimann instead of the pr so
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by oranges » #372338

I cleared irrelevant comments, you reposted some of them and I deleted them

If you keep this up I will request Kor gitbans you
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by kevinz000 » #372341

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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by feem » #372342

This is not a policy discussion post.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Slignerd » #372343

SpaceInaba wrote:oranges didn't do anything wrong he deleted posts that pertained to lzimann instead of the pr so
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> Someone talks about why the PR shouldn't be merged
> Someone else makes a counterargument
> Counterargument gets deleted because it "pertained to" the person who made the initial argument

Okay.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by kevinz000 » #372344

Move this to coding admins have no power over this and neither do headmins
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by oranges » #372345

Your comment already covered it adequately, which is why I left it there.

I could have edited their comment to remove the personal attack but It was simply easier to remove the comment, given that the point was already raised.

You chose to escalate this
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by lzimann » #372346

I moved to the appropriate subforum, since apparently the person complaining about me not following certain "rules"(that don't even exist) can't follow the rules themselves.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Slignerd » #372347

feem wrote:This is not a policy discussion post.
I'd put it in admin complaints, but we both know that would get shut down even swifter than this one is going to be, because it wouldn't be able to follow the format for obvious reasons, and because "teeechnicaaally they're maintainers, not admins". So instead, this thread expresses a demand to address the server's Github policies.

Edit: And oh well, it's in coding section now, anyways.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by onleavedontatme » #372354

Maintainers are free to delete posts if they feel a PR is spiraling out of control. I can't see exactly what he deleted but I trust his judgement and reading it just before the purge I saw lots of random anime pictures and shitflinging between leoz and others

Maintainers are free to close PRs they think are negative for the game, at which point you may appeal up the chain of command and the decision can be reversed (which is what happened in this case).
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Armhulen » #372396

Slignerd wrote:oranges being oranges and purging PR feedback
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that's not abuse when a pr becomes massive every comment lags it more and more (see dwarves or guncrafting for a good example) so it seems fair to do this. are some comments more valid and less shitposty than others? yes but if you couple your feedback with quirky quips at the maintainer so you can entertain your emoji reaction bros you should be mindful that it just puts your comment out as an attack on someone and not feedback for the pr

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wait no, it's abuse.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by John_Oxford » #372403

have you ever noticed most if not all maintainers who could be considered "leaders" or "well known" are god awful people with toxic personalities who would prefer to spew a meme or some other abstract bullshit than actually address a problem.

have you ever noticed that none of you seem to have a want to do anything about it or even acknowledge it





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TechnoAlchemist wrote:you where always right john, you where always right
>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by John_Oxford » #372405

Kor wrote:Maintainers are free to delete posts if they feel a PR is spiraling out of control. I can't see exactly what he deleted but I trust his judgement and reading it just before the purge I saw lots of random anime pictures and shitflinging between leoz and others

Maintainers are free to close PRs they think are negative for the game, at which point you may appeal up the chain of command and the decision can be reversed (which is what happened in this case).
Kor wrote:if they feel a PR is spiraling out of control.
basing a administrative action off of how a individual maintainer feels is bad.


Kor wrote: I can't see exactly what he deleted but I trust his judgement
not being able to see what someone deleted leaves room for emotional decisions which is bad when there is one person in charge of something. additionally, trusting someones judgement on something you admitted to not knowing specifically is bad and narrow sighted.
Kor wrote: just before the purge I saw lots of random anime pictures and shitflinging between leoz and others
by this same logic, if theres four pages of logical and well thought out comments and then i post six comments about bullshit and then theres another eighteen comments after that of logical comments, you therefore must delete all the comments because of what i posted.

making a choice to delete all the comments because some we're bad is bad.
Kor wrote:Maintainers are free to close PRs they think are negative for the game, at which point you may appeal up the chain of command and the decision can be reversed (which is what happened in this case).
why does a codebase you claim to be absolutely separate from the game have a appealing process for choices maintainers make.

if you want to impose tyranny, impose tyranny. just don't pretend to be democratic.
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TechnoAlchemist wrote:you where always right john, you where always right
>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
see, i told you motherfuckers.
NikNakFlak wrote:this isn't a game you can't just post whenever you want
I don't even know what the fuck tg is.

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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by kevinz000 » #372415

go away
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by oranges » #372417

it's not a democracy, it's never pretended to be one
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by calzilla1 » #372420

oranges wrote:it's not a democracy, it's never pretended to be one
So would you rather the people impeach you or hang you mr.president/my majesty
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by oranges » #372421

I think a full blown lynch mob with pitchforks and torches would be the ideal way to go
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Slignerd » #372698

Well, I guess recent events made me slightly more accepting of comment purges, now that I actually witnessed something that I saw as gross derailing, so... I guess that's worth taking into account.
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Post by iamgoofball » #372699

>only startss approving when told

sligcord go home
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by Slignerd » #372730

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Now, when it comes to lzimann...
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Post by Dax Dupont » #372746

Oranges while I don't see him as a good admin, heis arguably helpful and a good maintainer. Leoz seems just spiteful, constantly angry at everything and just generally unpleasant but nothing will ever change so this thread is useless.
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Post by lzimann » #372752

Slignerd wrote:-

Now, when it comes to lzimann...
Never did this for anyone.
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Re: Abuse of maintainer rank

Post by bman » #372822

what's going on here
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Post by Qbmax32 » #372856

bman wrote:what's going on here


Things that never should have happened
my admin feedback thread


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Post by D&B » #372899

Imagine getting this much unwarranted self importance just because you made an unofficial discord erp chat.
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[20:27:06]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Okay then. Have fun.
[20:31:29]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Excuse me?
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Post by Slignerd » #373009

Imagine a maintainer generally opposed to adding snowflakey alien races suddenly wanting to add a snowflakey alien race just cause it's the one that I dislike, following a suggestion by another server's headadmin. Trust me, I never asked for that one.

Also, imagine being so upset with one playermade discord that you start using it to brand everything you don't like.
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Post by captain sawrge » #373015

bman wrote:what's going on here
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Post by DrPillzRedux » #373332

Put me in the screencap.
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