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PKPenguin321> oranges what should happen if the vault machine is broken
<oranges> it stops working
<PKPenguin321> should the ORM just not send anything
<oranges> yes
<PKPenguin321> so the ore would stay in the ORM but you wouldnt be able to redeem it?
<oranges> it wouldn't accept the ore at all
<PKPenguin321> ah
<PKPenguin321> how should the gulag ore redemption process work oranges
<PKPenguin321> just stay the same?
<oranges> make the gulag machine send to the vault
<oranges> so the prisoners working actually assists the crew
<PKPenguin321> point tracking method will need to be changed then
<SpaceManiac> would the ORM pull *from* the vault in order to smelt alloys?
<oranges> the ORM smelts?
<SpaceManiac> yes
<SpaceManiac> nobody uses the actual smeltery
<SpaceManiac> because it doesn't give mining points
<PKPenguin321> yea
<oranges> lmao what
<PKPenguin321> im thinking it will go
<PKPenguin321> ores are dropped in front of ORM
<oranges> that's so backwards
<PKPenguin321> if vault machine is active:
<oranges> I guess the vault machien will have to do that then
<PKPenguin321> ORM pulls in ores, smelts into sheets, shoots sheets to vault
<PKPenguin321> i dont tihnk it particularly matters which machine smelts the ores
<PKPenguin321> since sheets will go to vault anyways
<SpaceManiac> it'd work if the smelts were added to the protolathe or something
<SpaceManiac> so engineers can get their plasmaglass
<PKPenguin321> the smelts?
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<SpaceManiac> smelting recipes currently in the ORM
<SpaceManiac> plasteel, plastitanium, plasmaglass, etc.
<PKPenguin321> thats a good point
<oranges> someone has to choose the recipes yeah
<PKPenguin321> i guess the vault could just hold ores
<oranges> that's the sticking point
<oranges> I had assume dminers did it
<PKPenguin321> and if you try to print a recipe that needed a smelt-only material like plasteel
<SpaceManiac> it happens at the ORM right now
<oranges> I guess the only place it makse sense is on the lathes
<PKPenguin321> if would smelt and send
<oranges> where the demand would be
<SpaceManiac> the ORM also un-smelts
<oranges> what
<oranges> what kind of juju magic shit is that
<PKPenguin321> ? i dont think it does that?
<SpaceManiac> insert plasteel to get plasma+steel
<SpaceManiac> it does
<PKPenguin321> wtf
<PKPenguin321> wait so
<PKPenguin321> what if you want raw metal sheets for building
<PKPenguin321> would you have to go through the vault? or could you just get them from a lathe
<PKPenguin321> im guessing lathe
<SpaceManiac> would make the most sense
<SpaceManiac> autolathes would have to be connected as well
<PKPenguin321> would they have to be?
<oranges> they're pulling from teh machine
<oranges> the vault storage
<PKPenguin321> ok so how about this
<PKPenguin321> what if you have 50 metal sheets you found on the floor
<PKPenguin321> you wanna put em in the autolathe
<PKPenguin321> how would you do that then
<oranges> that would be in local storage
<oranges> i.e each machine would have a local storage
<PKPenguin321> so protolathes still have internal storage
<oranges> adn can pull from the remote
<oranges> yes
<PKPenguin321> in addition to bluespace storage?
<SpaceManiac> hmm
<SpaceManiac> if that's the case does it really fix the problem of one dept. taking everything
<SpaceManiac> or w/e the complaint is
<PKPenguin321> yeah
<PKPenguin321> use your lathe -> empty all the uranium/diamonds/whatever out -> put into local storage
<PKPenguin321> if anything it makes resource hogging easier
<PKPenguin321> oranges maybe putting sheets into local storage should just put them in the vault machine instead?
<oranges> I want people to keep local values
<oranges> there should be some level of tension
<oranges> that is why the QM can cut people off
<oranges> if RnD starts taking all the materials, cut them off
<PKPenguin321> how would cutoffs work btw
<PKPenguin321> should they be area based
<oranges> by machine
<PKPenguin321> so you cant decon/recon your lathe and be unblocked
<oranges> only the department lathes connect to the vault
<SpaceManiac> by department then
<oranges> building new ones doesn't connect them
<PKPenguin321> but autolathes also connect to the vault you said?
<oranges> what
<SpaceManiac> no I said that
<PKPenguin321> autolathes arent departmental
<PKPenguin321> youre thinking of protolathes
<oranges> the autolathe doesn't need to exist
<oranges> roll it's functionality into the protolathes
<oranges> it's a relic
<SpaceManiac> assistants
<PKPenguin321> the scope of this project is rapidly expanding
<oranges> they can have a protolathe
<oranges> that just has the default loadout
<oranges> i.e it's an autolathe
<SpaceManiac> eh maybe
<PKPenguin321> so a "public" department protolathe
<oranges> PKPenguin321: you don't have to do that bit
<SpaceManiac> the autolathe has a lot of recipes that would clog up the protolathe menus
<PKPenguin321> with only autolathe equipment?
<oranges> I'm just saying the autolathe is a relic
<oranges> and should be rolled into the protolathes
<PKPenguin321> is it cool if i leave autolathes untouched then
<PKPenguin321> dont connect them to vault storage, let them keep local storage
<PKPenguin321> basically just leave them as is
<oranges> yes