Colonial Marines Code Leak

[A3STH3T1CS]

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[Remie Richards]

From what I briefly looked over, I couldn't see any of the newer xeno sprites in the mob files. Unless these were stored somewhere else this might actually just be a much older copy of the code.

In any case I'm firmly against using any of their xeno sprites, I've bitched long enough about how I'm not okay with them using my sprites and it'd be absolutely horrible to take theirs in return.

Besides I like my sprites better.

But I'd like to check theirs out.



For comparison reasons.





Honest.

They're in there, you probably looked at MASTER and not DEV, their sprites are in a rar file where icons normally are.

[Slignerd]

I actually do prefer WJohnson's xeno assets much more, while CM's mostly just clash with the entire game and don't even look that good, so... =D

[WJohnston]

Well from what I've seen there's a large number of things to say about the xeno sprites.

The art quality is good, but is not at all designed for ss13. Here's why:

1. They do not follow the flat-in-front perspective mob rule correctly.
Many, if not all of their sprites, do not properly obey this rule. The front/back sprites are not aligned with eachother, sometimes by pretty wide margins. Arms that are pointing down in the front sprite may be pointing up in the back sprite, and neither of these are at all aligned with the side sprites which are shaped completely differently (leg and arm position, stance etc).

2. They don't actually fit in with the style of the rest of ss13, or what little style there is.
The current xeno and human sprites are pretty cartoony/shitty, as is most of the rest of ss13. The xenos they've made here however fit a very different game. I'm not sure if the fault lies with the sprites or ss13 itself, but the two just have completely different styles and personalities, and they clash.

3. Minor and not-so-minor gripes and nitpicks on many individual sprites.
So I'm just gonna rant here on many, many different sprites and point out errors, either on their own or because of rule #1 that came back to bite them in the ass.

-The queen's legs are supposed to have little spikes on the end of their heels, and the front sprites illustrate this, but the side sprites do not. The queen's back sprite legs are very odd, it's like it's a very big ass but it's also not and it really doesn't properly show the digitigrade nature of her legs.
-Hunters are the only ones with dorsal tubes in these sprites, yet they are only really noticeable in the sleeping sprite. Maybe it's because of how dark most of these sprites are with an almost comic-book style of "black for any kind of shading" but I can't see them on their front, back, or side sprites much at all. It's kind of too busy.
-Runner sleeping sprites are either too big or queens/praetorians are too small when sleeping, because they're almost the same size despite queens being 3x bigger.
-Praetorians and queens are the same exact size, even if praetorians are supposed to be a lot smaller (but still bigger than the average xeno).
-All xenos have milky beige blood for some reason, yet in almost every known illustration it's yellow/brown/green. This is too bright.
-The highlights themselves on many, many of the xenos are beige instead of a very light blue or off-white grey, which kinda clashes with all the blues/blacks they have. I get they're shiny but not THAT shiny.
-The larvae have their tails sort of hanging around in the air, and I get that in Alien the larva did this when rushing through the table in that one scene, but it just sort of looks odd. Might be a case of rule #1 where it's supposed to be on the ground but because of how I currently view things flat-in-font it's not.
-1x1 xenos have a bizzare pose, their arms are forward but their back is straight while their legs are very long and spread out. It does not come off as terribly aggressive. Furthermore, this also means that they are not at all aligned with human inhands (not a necessary requirement, but a thing of note, and something I resolved when doing a major cleanup/resprite of xenos here).

4. Good things I really like and are very well done.
-Larvas, despite their weird tail, are actually very nice looking. I like the mouth and shape of the head and there are good details on the skin.
-Eggs are top notch, great work.
-I can't say anything on resin floors because they seem to have many variations, but from what I've seen it looks nice.
-Overall good color palette, nice noticeable contrast between colors.
-Queen front sprite looks very nice, very imposing and fits the wide-hips-and-leg-stance style of Aliens. Accuracy to the films there is nice (but I don't personally like that leg stance in the movies, may just be a limit of the technology used in the film).

[Davidchan]

Come on wj, you're not even going to go on how their purple sacs that spread resin look LITERALLY like a penis?

[DrPillzRedux]

Come on wj, you're not even going to go on how their purple sacs that spread resin look LITERALLY like a penis?

I'd hope so given Geiger.

[The Ultimate Chimera]

CM stole a lot of stuff from other codebases.

[Davidchan]

CM stole a lot of stuff everything from other codebases.

FTFY

[DrPillzRedux]

They plan on sending a C&D to anyone who uses stuff from the leak.

What if Fox sent them one?

[Skorvold]

the worst codebase in space station 13, with the worst admins and the worst rules. literally the server that people raid for keks because of how dumb it is

[Drynwyn]

They plan on sending a C&D to anyone who uses stuff from the leak.

What if Fox sent them one?

Given that they don't have the power to back it up with a lawsuit, it's doubtful that a C&D would do anything.

Maybe I'll set up a colonial marines server just to make their host cry.

[Slignerd]

the worst codebase in space station 13, with the worst admins and the worst rules. literally the server that people raid for keks because of how dumb it is

Clearly player counts are proof otherwise, right? Cause if there are many people on a server, it automatically means it's good, right?

[Wyzack]

Please do Dryn, the colossal assblast would be worth it

[onleavedontatme]

They plan on sending a C&D to anyone who uses stuff from the leak.

What if Fox sent them one?

Source please, that's hilarious.

[MrStonedOne]

CM stole a lot of stuff from other codebases.

Can anybody find me stuff they stole, like the actual code and a link to the code on the stolen from repo, preferably anything taken in the last year and a half.

if they took it from an agpl codebase the codebase they took it from would have cause to sue them to get them to open source their code.

[DrPillzRedux]

Source please, that's hilarious.

It was in the shoutbox with admins circlejerking, gone now.

the worst codebase in space station 13, with the worst admins and the worst rules. literally the server that people raid for keks because of how dumb it is

Clearly player counts are proof otherwise, right? Cause if there are many people on a server, it automatically means it's good, right?

Well I mean it is fun for me, but some of the rules are dumb and the admins do whatever they want.

Like last night, the Commander was RPing as a Hitler knockoff. Marines had to do a full retreat back to the ship but he refused to listen, launched the dropship back up way early, leaving marines stranded down there for 8+ minutes. Lost over half the men that were retreating because of him. So me and other marines break into the bridge and I get told I'm looking at a ban for not following mutiny rules (I didn't adminhelp why, or have 5 other marines do that as well).

Eventually over a dozen people ahelped and they were forced to let us stuff Hitler commander into a locker.

[Slignerd]

There's a rumor around that they're paying a license fee to Fox in order to use Alien IP. Any way to confirm that?

[Wyzack]

I highly doubt they can afford the likely fucking gargantuan fee required to license a popular franchise such as Aliens, there is no fucking way.

[Davidchan]

There is absolutely no way Fox would license the franchise to a third party when a 5th alien movie is in the works. Plus the fee would easily be 5 digits. Basically people are spreading shit and 'din du nuffin' camp at CM is trying not to look like hypocrits for calling people out for stealing or misappropriating code.

[The Ultimate Chimera]

CM stole a lot of stuff from other codebases.

Can anybody find me stuff they stole, like the actual code and a link to the code on the stolen from repo, preferably anything taken in the last year and a half.

if they took it from an agpl codebase the codebase they took it from would have cause to sue them to get them to open source their code.

Not good with looking through code and comparing it, but I know for a fact they have stolen from bay, tg, unbound travels and some others.

[A3STH3T1CS]

CM stole a lot of stuff from other codebases.

Can anybody find me stuff they stole, like the actual code and a link to the code on the stolen from repo, preferably anything taken in the last year and a half.

if they took it from an agpl codebase the codebase they took it from would have cause to sue them to get them to open source their code.

Not good with looking through code and comparing it, but I know for a fact they have stolen from bay, tg, unbound travels and some others.

you say that but what have they stolen. otherwise it's just rumors without keywords to look shit up with

[paprika]

Just more reason to run your code open source. I believe in honest secrets with coding but there's better ways to do that (serverside) than fucking making your whole codebase closed source. What goes around comes around. This should be a lesson the rest of the downstreams.

[Isratosh]

http://prnt.sc/c1eeyf

kek

[A3STH3T1CS]

That must of been the reason.

They wanted to remain a special snowflake and keep all the users in one server.

[DrPillzRedux]

I just want to point out that even they admit they can't code well.

For example, if you empty a revolver, you have to clear the last round out of the chamber. Except revolvers use a cylinder, not like a semiauto where one bullet goes in the slide.

[Davidchan]

I think you mean they are too busy trying to code in their third faction whitelist only totally not adminbus predator faction to be bothered to fix actual bugs and balance issues.

[MrEousTranger]

Their predator sprites are noice tho.
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[Armhulen]

Their predator sprites are noice tho.
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we're not using the snowflake adminbus predators

[A3STH3T1CS]

I went to go poop on the CM server a while ago and just tried to get back on

"Banned, Reason: Shitlord"

Isn't that like, a triggered tumblr word or something.

[Slignerd]

Turns out, even the loophole they used was completely invalid. Hilariously enough, they deleted the link to that comment when I linked to it in their chatbox.

[onleavedontatme]

Turns out, even the loophole they used was completely invalid. Hilariously enough, they deleted the link to that comment when I linked to it in their chatbox.

Not surprising given that the CM people suddenly stop responding when you ask "well what about the Alien IP" after they've given their big "it's legally and ethically okay because it was a loophole!" defense.

[A3STH3T1CS]

posting images in case people don't care to go on leddit




"HELP"

[DemonFiren]

I'm not sure if that is the next level of autism or the next level of shitbaggery, but damn what a faggot.

[A3STH3T1CS]

I'm not sure if that is the next level of autism or the next level of shitbaggery, but damn what a faggot.

To keep in line with lore, the third image is from him being upgraded to trialmin and spawning 300 spiders in the clone server after the leak.
Hence the backdoor comment where he allegedly gives himself admin to grief the clone server.

[DrPillzRedux]

I prefer their dumbed down bay medical system. If you get fucked up enough you need surgery instead of meds. Surgery is then, as a doc, treating exterior wounds quickly with a shot or pill quickly to maximize health, then doing surgery to fix bones/pull fragments/etc. Not too time consuming and punishes you for getting hurt so bad.

[Armhulen]

I prefer their dumbed down bay medical system. If you get fucked up enough you need surgery instead of meds. Surgery is then, as a doc, treating exterior wounds quickly with a shot or pill quickly to maximize health, then doing surgery to fix bones/pull fragments/etc. Not too time consuming and punishes you for getting hurt so bad.

I do love their medical system, yeah. I remember the first time i tried it, I didn't wear gloves or wash my hands between patients so I was slowly murdering everyone in medical with the cheese touch.

[WJohnston]

Exactly how is a complex-ass medical system literally designed to be slow and punish combat (in favor of actual roleplay like bay which doesn't HAVE much combat) in a GOD DAMNED PERPETUAL PVP MODE a good design decision?

Like the cognitive and design dissonance here is stunning. I don't know how they're doing so well. There are many more things like this I could point out and I don't even play on there.

[DrPillzRedux]

It's not slow. All I do is hypospray with a med, do the surgery. Takes me 3 minutes for the most complex one max. People just way overcomplicate it like thinking they need to wash hands when you just give them an antibiotic pill in advance.

[Slignerd]

Repositories with the leaked code got taken down. DMCA takedown.

This level of hypocrisy is actually kind of funny.

[Wyzack]

A dmca is worthless unless it is backed in court, and no court would seriously entertain the case of a game built on stolen Fox ip being plagerised

[Slignerd]

I meant this. They need GitHub alone to acknowledge it.

[A3STH3T1CS]

The downloads are already done. New hosts are (allegedly) improving code, there's not much they can do now.
Is it entirely logical to continue working on a private project even if the source you obtained it from is publicly available now?
What exactly is the gray line here?

[MrStonedOne]

Just submitted a counter notice:

I have read and understand GitHub's Guide to Filing a DMCA Counter Notice. I am filing a DMCA Counter Notice to work removed at the following URLs:

https://github.com/ColonialMarinesRelea ... HA-DevTest
https://github.com/ColonialMarinesRelea ... PHA-master
Original DMCA:
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/mas ... Marines.md


I swear, under penalty of perjury, that I have a good-faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of a mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled. It is my belief that the person(s) transmitting the material in question at the internet locations in question has a license to transmit that material. I should also note that I am not the user in question, but I have a good faith belief that I am a stakeholder and partial copyright owner of the copyrighted worked as it contains contributions made by me to the material in question, and such, have standing to submit this counter notice.

The material in question is a fork of GPL licensed work released under license located at: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... -GPLv3.txt and under Section 5 Subsection(c), it clearly states: "You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy. This License will therefore apply, along with any applicable section 7 additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts, regardless of how they are packaged."

The use of the phrase "anyone who comes into possession of a copy" is key, even if the matter in which this user came into possession of the copy is under question, the terms of the license are clear, and this '~0xCSRF' user, has a license to distribute the work in question.

I consent to the jurisdiction of Federal District Court for the judicial district in which my address is located (if in the United States, otherwise the Northern District of California where GitHub is located), and I will accept service of process from the person who provided the DMCA notification or an agent of such person.

Signed:
....

[DemonFiren]

When was the last time anyone wrote "based MSO"?

[Davidchan]

The hero ss13 deserves, but maybe not the one it needs.

[TheColdTurtle]

Did you type that shit all out on your own mso?

[DemonFiren]

The way it looks I'm pretty sure it's a form.

[Jordie0608]

If it interests you: https://help.github.com/articles/guide- ... er-notice/

[Wyzack]

MSO holy shit man, fucking throwing down. Colon mareen babbies blown the fuck out

[Davidchan]

I really hope that DMCA gets reversed, the amount of screaming CM is doing over this when they are the ones who stole the code in the first place is nothing short of astounding. If you want to be a closed sourced SS13 then you should start from the ground up and not use code from other sources.

[ShadowDimentio]

We need a highlight reel of it, someone get to work