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[Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:15 am
by Gouty
Byond account and character name: Gouty | Carlos Danger
Admin: Optimumtact
Time and Server incident occurred: 2018-05-11 09:22:08 Basil
ROUND ID HERE: 87774
Detailed summary:

AFAIK it was oranges but CitrusGender, Alexch2, STP and RandolfTheMeh were on at the same time, although things only started happening when oranges logged in.

First had a fake "you have been banned by RandolfTheMeh" message.

Shortly after everything is made to spin

Then 26 people in OOC are made to say "Oranges is the best admin", and other admins are made to appear to be saying things (e.g. OOC: Citrusgender: I love it when rustled pees on my face) Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup) executed SDQL query: "call client.ooc(''' I love it when rustled pees on my face ''') on /mob/living where ckey == '''citrusgender'''".

So far so meme, nothing too heinous.

Then highlander is pressed while the round is going effectively ending the round. (Everyone that was antag got a token though)

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:16 am
by oranges
Extended round
admins are messing with rods

I assumed it was an event round and pressed some buttons.

If that was in error then I apologise.

edit: the SDQL was showing a admin candidate how it works

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:18 am
by Arianya
Please use the template provided for admin complaints.

Thank you!

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:19 am
by CitrusGender
oranges wrote:Extended round
admins are messing with rods

I assumed it was an event round and pressed some buttons.

If that was in error then I apologise.

edit: the SDQL was showing a admin candidate how it works
so uh, just some background: This was while I was showing Randolf how to use the shuttle manipulator by destroying and respawning the shuttle on centcomm during candidacy training. My other candidates can back me up here. The shuttle was going to be reset afterwards.

Everything that OP listed was done by oranges.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:08 pm
by BeeSting12
Fake randolf ban message: Just memeing, the key here is moderation. I did it every couple weeks to a month when I was adminned. Not worth complaining about.

Everything spinning: EXTREMELY POOR TASTE DEADMIN NOW. Seriously though like why. If you wanna show the candidate that let him try it on a private server.

The OOC stuff is kinda ridiculous. I vaguely remember kevinz getting a ban for doing that SDQL query.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:03 pm
by Armhulen
What's an event round and why does it allow you to highlander

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:17 pm
by Stickymayhem
I think the main thing is keeping an in-universe reason for shit happening in game. You can fluff pretty much anything with almost no effort, but we should still show some basic respect to the roleplay aspect of the game the same way we expect players to.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:47 pm
by Shezza
Oranges was doing this kind of thing before he was even admin and lost his coder rank for it

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 5:36 pm
by iamgoofball
BeeSting12 wrote:
The OOC stuff is kinda ridiculous. I vaguely remember kevinz getting a ban for doing that SDQL query.
Admins used to fake ooc messages from me all the time. There's no punishment for it.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:34 pm
by SpaceInaba
Just to bring something up here in this round oranges spun the screen multiple times so that isn't new behavior. He also stepped down shortly afterwards though.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:26 pm
by BeeSting12
iamgoofball wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:
The OOC stuff is kinda ridiculous. I vaguely remember kevinz getting a ban for doing that SDQL query.
Admins used to fake ooc messages from me all the time. There's no punishment for it.
I'm fine with the fake OOC messages. I'm talking about making tons of people say something at once which is what im assuming happened based on what gouty said. theres easier ways to demonstrate sdql especially for a coder such as oranges

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 1:25 am
by oranges
Armhulen wrote:What's an event round and why does it allow you to highlander
well arm it's when admins take control of a round, usually because it's extended and they press buttons and present a story.

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 10:00 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
I've noticed a tendency for some of the newer admins to see that other admins are doing things in a round and immediately go ham wild, spamming the meme buttons instantly

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 3:05 pm
by Armhulen
oranges wrote:
Armhulen wrote:What's an event round and why does it allow you to highlander
well arm it's when admins take control of a round, usually because it's extended and they press buttons and present a story.
alright if they're making a story why would highlander be okay

honestly if you can't use highlander without a complaint why do we not have a better version/it removed by now

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 4:59 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
I think the worst thing here tbh is the opinion that going "oh someones running an event" "HAMMERS ALL CONTROVERSIAL BUTTONS" is okay

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:00 pm
by Armhulen
yeah, i think this boils down to oranges was having a good time with citrus and a new admin and this whole event meme is a bad angle. just say that you were fucking around and you were sorry because that's what it basically was from what I heard.

Citrus said they were talking on it so I asked him to post the conversation and it went like this:
Spoiler:
Satan - Tomorrow at 2:05 PM
also uh
eh whatever
do whatever you want with the oranges complaint
I didn't exactly tell the candidate to press that as a joke
but if it matters, I can say what the conversation was
armhulen - Tomorrow at 2:07 PM
Yes sure
Post it itt
Satan - Tomorrow at 2:08 PM
kay
erm
the conversation went something like this:
I was going through the entire admin verbs
so I told randolf something along the lines of this:
"What if you destroy the shuttle Randolf, like this?"
and then I spawn a rod and I destroy the shuttle
"What do you do randolf?"
then he says
"Ok now I log off the server."
and then oranges chimes in and says
"no, no no: you press the 'there only can be one button.'"
and then I can't remember exactly what I said but
it probably was jokingly agreeing with him
and then the madman actually did it
now i don't know how much citrus was joking about you doing it but i guess my point is keep the admin jokes in admin areas or SOMETHING like that! kind of reminds me where beesting and jimm was fucking around and on a joke they nuked a clockcult round, at what point does this meme stop

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:45 pm
by BeeSting12
it takes one person to nuke a round not two

Re: [Optimumtact] - Use of admin tools to negatively impact round

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 pm
by Armhulen
anyway. complaint successful oranges will hopefully be a little bit more aware of what's going on